Lawyer & Law School Megathread #12: Started Out Barrister, Ended Up Barista

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Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I got my CLS housing today! $830 a month, one roommate, and I'll be living on 113th St. Am I right in thinking that I got pretty lucky?

# ¿ May 8, 2010 03:08

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:36

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

billion dollar bitch posted:

Well, I've decided not to do anything. But Feces, how are you saying "people will cheat will get theirs?" How will people get theirs if nothing happens?

For the record, I know a girl who actually cheated on the LSAT and got into American University LS from that. Of course you can say, "lol she is in law school she got hers amirite?" but then there's necessarily some kid out there who's going to a not-as-good law school, who might have done much better otherwise.

I guess the difference is nobody will know if she cheated on the LSAT and hopefully the prof can just look at the margins...

PS Good luck to you too.

How did the girl cheat on the LSAT?

# ¿ May 10, 2010 05:23

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Ainsley McTree posted:

I've been getting all sorts of scam e-mails (sometimes even phone calls) ever since I signed up for careerbuilder. I wish they made some kind of effort to keep them out, scammers who target the unemployed are the worst. At least the elderly sometimes have money, I'm just a bum

If the police set up an account on careerbuilder and used it to bust scammers, would that be considered entrapment?

# ¿ May 26, 2010 15:08

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Warp, force her to sit down and read the last few pages of this thread. Then have her read the first page. People who think that they need to go to law school RIGHT NOW mystify me. There are so many things to do in the world and going to law school closes off the vast, vast majority of them. I applied a year after I graduated from college, deferred twice, and I still kind of wish I had more time to do other stuff.

# ¿ May 28, 2010 06:47

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

newberstein posted:

I thought of that but the problem there is that it makes it sound like I slacked off. I went to all my classes and studied a poo poo load, I just didn't waste my time doing homework. I somehow want to get that across.

Saying that you didn't do your homework is literally an idiom for slacking off. There's no getting around it.

# ¿ Jun 11, 2010 15:15

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

If you go to Lewis and Clark, the only thing you'll be exploring is an unemployment line.

# ¿ Jun 17, 2010 15:14

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I had a great childhood and parents who love me and I'd never allow them to have anywhere close to the kind of control and influence over my life that Amish does. Am I a bad son?

# ¿ Jun 26, 2010 06:21

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

CIGNX posted:

No, you're just not Asian.

I actually am Asian. 3rd/4th generation though so I'm pretty Americanized.

# ¿ Jun 26, 2010 14:54

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

nm posted:

Univ of West Los Angeles; Los Angeles CA
A quality institution, only second to Yale.

Why wouldn't they be ambitious and call themselves the University of Los Angeles? They could scam their way toward sounding respectable.

# ¿ Jul 15, 2010 15:54

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

billion dollar bitch posted:

If I had faith in the criminal justice system, or did not mind being poor (either one of these, really), I would stay in the Bronx DA for a very, very long time.

What's the pay like?

# ¿ Jul 19, 2010 14:45

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Entris, what's your opinion on film studios removing movie trailer uploads from Youtube?

# ¿ Jul 21, 2010 20:57

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

If the labyrinth is full of minotaurs, what's waiting for you at the center?

# ¿ Jul 22, 2010 14:48

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Gadamer posted:

...Half of the grades at Harvard are As and 91% of 2003 graduating seniors graduated with honors. Grade inflation? No way.

I don't really get the whole grade inflation complaint when it comes to schools like Harvard. Is it so difficult to believe that half of the kids who were able to get into Harvard are turning in A-quality work?

# ¿ Jul 23, 2010 15:34

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

What's the best place to buy furniture in NYC? I'm doing my CLS move-in tomorrow and I need to pick up pretty much everything for my unfurnished apartment. I don't really have a ton of money.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2010 06:47

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

evilweasel posted:

The answer is always, always, Ikea.

The Brooklyn Ikea has an average 1 1/2 star review on Google so apparently it's an awful place.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2010 23:04

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Alaemon posted:

Yes. It was an honor code violation. Also, our grades never had our names attached to them. We were given a randomly assigned exam number for each term, so our grades were anonymous.

Were your exam numbers tattooed on your forearms?

# ¿ Aug 10, 2010 10:59

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

evilweasel posted:

I think some firms are known to do this at Columbia if you put your GPA on your resume.

That's only if your GPA is lower than what they want, right?

# ¿ Aug 12, 2010 16:35

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

So I'm one week into law school and I don't hate my life. Things have exceeded my expectations quite nicely.

# ¿ Aug 22, 2010 02:11

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

billion dollar bitch posted:

Well, Holland, it could be that you're doing practice law school and your grade or lack thereof in that class means absolutely jack poo poo so it's not so much law school as it is an organized classroom-centric meet and greet for four hundred kids who are still somewhat interesting.

Yeah, life is pretty sweet right now :smug:

# ¿ Aug 23, 2010 05:04

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I have Sovern

He's actually pretty good, though. Strauss is the one I've heard the worst things about.

# ¿ Aug 23, 2010 05:57

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Did any of the UVA people have Jody Krauss for Contracts? He's a visiting Prof at CLS now and I'm hoping to get some intel on him.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2010 08:31

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Unamuno posted:

I'm a little late to respond, but I had the legend himself, Jody Kraus, for Contracts 1L year. Awesome, engaging lecturer. I got extremely lucky with my coldcall, as it was about theory/policy/hypothetical questions with fairly straightforward answers instead of the minute details of whatever case we were on. He does a great job guiding people to the "right" answers during coldcalls, and has absolutely no patience for gunners wasting time in his class.

For the essay portion of the exam, he really stressed efficiency and correctness over spewing knowledge. He said he wanted us to use the "James Bond" approach instead of the "Commando" approach. Oh, his was also still the only law exam I've taken with a multiple choice section. It was probably the most difficult multiple choice test I have ever taken in my life, because it seemed like each answer could have been correct; it was only by varying shades of technical correctness (the best kind of correctness) that the choices differed. When some classmates and I got together to go over the practice exam, we literally got into shouting matches over our multiple choice answers. The waitress at Chili's probably thought we were psychos.

Thanks, that's really helpful. I haven't gotten coldcalled yet but a friend of mine had a pretty rough time today when he got called on. Do you still have your notes from 1L?

Also, I don't think that the Columbia gym is that bad but it makes me mad that the crew team gets so much space to itself.

# ¿ Sep 15, 2010 06:07

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Low Ping Gentleman posted:

I've scored 174 on 10 of the 12 practice tests I've done so far (170/175 for the other two), but for whatever reason I'm convinced that I'll barely score over 160 when it comes to the actual test. I figure practice tests don't mean too much, since you're not facing the pressure of writing an actual test.

I took the LSAT three times and for my third and best try, what made the difference was approaching it like a practice test. The previous two, I was thinking that I had to get every question right and overthought my answers. When I relaxed the last time, I got exactly where I was practicing.

# ¿ Oct 6, 2010 03:25

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Walamor posted:

So I'm stressing out over the LSAT being tomorrow and have done so many logic games I think I'm actually starting to get worse. How did you guys deal with the night before the LSAT to calm down?

Chill out and remember that you can take it again consequences-free.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2010 09:30

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Aristokles posted:

If you're talking about the USAO, isn't that kind of similar to career suicide, given that they apparently don't hire through the internship?

Is this really true? If someone is dead set on working for the Feds in some way, would it better to work for one of the other agencies rather than doing SLIP?

# ¿ Oct 14, 2010 03:34

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

dividebyzero posted:

ahahahaha, I'd completely forgotten about the 1L LSAT dick measuring!

Wow, that really happens? I literally haven't had a single LSAT conversation since I started.

Also, are there any more CLS stories that BDB and evilweasel can share?

# ¿ Oct 15, 2010 08:53

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

CLS people, do you have any recommendations on which 1L elective I should take? Here are the options:

Law and Economics (Prof. Victor Goldberg)
Legislation (Prof. Richard Briffault)
Principles of Intellectual Property (Prof. Scott Hemphill)
Critical Legal Thought (Prof. Katherine Franke)
Foundations of the Regulatory State (Prof. Peter Strauss)
The United States and the International Legal System (Prof. Matthew Waxman)

I'm leaning toward Critical Legal Thought, Legislation, and the International class but I'm generally pretty open-minded.

# ¿ Nov 3, 2010 10:22

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I thank my lucky stars every day for only needing to take out Stafford loans.

# ¿ Nov 15, 2010 10:07

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

billion dollar bitch posted:

The Korilla truck is pretty good.

It really is, I hope it sticks around.

# ¿ Nov 18, 2010 01:36

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

echopapa posted:

Oh, no. If you're going to cut a promo, make it Ultimate Warrior-style.

I reccomend this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wr1syXM5jk&t=75s

# ¿ Nov 20, 2010 10:34

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I don't care about ragle and I would like a link to the DropBox too.

# ¿ Dec 13, 2010 04:55

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Omerta posted:

What's your email? I made PDF charts for every torts action. I can send them to you.

Can you send them to me too? My address is satojs at gmail.

# ¿ Dec 17, 2010 08:46

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Feces Starship posted:

lawnet consulted. holland oats identified.

commence reputation sabotage procedure

Oh goddammit, I should have thought of that. Now all of CLS will know about my love of MMA and Pokemon.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2010 09:32

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I'm posting from Butler right now. The work ethic at Columbia is insane and it's somehow sucked me in. I never used to be this way.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 03:34

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

evilweasel posted:

Just got an A- in a class I virtually never showed up to, and used an 8-page outline that simply had the case names, the page, and a single sentence on what they were about.

This owns.

When do grades generally come out for 1Ls?

# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 22:34

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

I've been procrastinating with applying for 1L summer jobs because I figure that grades will be posted any day now. Should I just go on ahead with applications or is it ok to wait for my grades to come out? Would employers even bother looking at me before I send in my transcript? The ones I want to apply for have deadlines that end in February.

# ¿ Jan 12, 2011 22:50

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Feces Starship posted:

Eek. You should have done this already. Do it now and tell them that grades are pending and will be forwarded once you have them.

Since it sounds like you want some non-private sector interest you might still have a good shot. Don't worry but get to it.

Gotcha. What threw me off is places like the SDNY USAO site that requires a transcript with your application but doesn't say what to do if you don't have your grades yet. Even for places like that, should I just send in my application anyway?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 01:41

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

How did your friend like it?? I think that SDNY criminal prosecution is my overall top choice.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 04:01

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

Oh well. At least I got an app in to the Manhattan DA's office early. Guess I'll start sending out a lot more apps out.

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 04:34

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# ¿ Apr 30, 2024 05:36

Holland Oats: Oct 20, 2003; Only the dead have seen the end of war

evilweasel posted:

I did that. It was the biggest mistake I made in law school.

Linguica should put something about that in the OP so our misfortune will not go in vain.

Just how late am I if I send out stuff today? And in general, how many apps do people send out for 1L summer? I'm only sticking to jobs I'd actually want to do right now but if I really am screwed, I guess I need to widen the net.

Holland Oats fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jan 13, 2011

# ¿ Jan 13, 2011 05:26

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