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Don't know if this has been posted ... http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/109478/bar-raised-for-law-grad-jobs?mod=career-work "Thomas Reddy, a second-year student at Brooklyn Law School, hasn't landed a summer internship yet after sending resumes to more than 50 law firms. He is taking on about $70,000 of debt each year of the three-year program to earn his degree, but said he may be fortunate to make $80,000 a year in a lawyer job after graduating. "That is less than what I was making before I went to law school," he said." I really don't think an $80K job out of law school as a lawyer actually exists. All the big firm jobs start at $160K and the rest of the jobs are small-mid size firms and government jobs. Those types of job all start much lower than $80K. Revolver fucked around with this message at 14:59 on May 8, 2010 |
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Roger_Mudd posted:But our moms are so proud of us! Also, if you quit an $80K a year job to go to law school while taking out $70K in debt a year, you're an idiot. At least go part-time and keep your job.
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May 8, 2010 17:37
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nm posted:California: Not trying to be a dick, but I would love to see some actual job postings that reflect these numbers. The DA and PD numbers you note are particularly unbelieveable.
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May 9, 2010 02:53
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nm posted:Seriously? Very interesting. I lived my life mostly in the Midwest and those PD and ADA jobs start at $40-50K. I'm shocked there are state jobs that pay that much for someone just out of law school.
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May 9, 2010 23:04
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HiddenReplaced posted:10-8, I thought you were lying about how awesome your job was. Now that I'm working for an agency I have come to realize that you were downplaying it so we wouldn't kill you and wear your skin. I downplay how good my job is all the time for all of you.
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May 13, 2010 00:43
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Roger_Mudd posted:Wow, I don't know what is worse; the content of the video or the fact that he thought it might help him in "the legal community". His office was very impressive by why didn't he mention the vintage coke machine? Did anyone know there was a Massachusetts School of Law?
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May 31, 2010 21:11
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Soothing Vapors posted:I just wanted to make sure everyone saw this since ahahahaah. I went back to watch it again because it's so psycho, but I get the message that the user removed the video.
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Jun 1, 2010 03:55
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CaptainScraps posted:Today's lesson: I don't know about at the trial court level, but I was a state appellate clerk. I read ever single brief, usually multiple times. If you had a good brief, you definitely increased your likelihood of success.
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Jun 4, 2010 18:51
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HiddenReplaced posted:I think I may have made a post a couple months ago saying that I had made it through two years of law school in a long term relationship. That's a bummer. Hope things turn around for you.
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Jun 24, 2010 04:07
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Direwolf posted:Oh, no, quote the whole quote from him. I was actually more frustrated by this: Says Arizona State's Berman, "I think that law school remains a great investment because of the kinds of analytical skills law school teaches—whether you end up practicing at a law firm, or going into business, or going into government."
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Jul 26, 2010 21:23
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Draile posted:Ben's Chili Bowl is hugely overrated and is awash in tourists at all hours. But DC is such a terrible city for cheap food that there isn't much to recommend in its place. Five Guys is pretty good for cheap food. The burgers and fries are tasty, and they are all over.
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Jul 30, 2010 23:57
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Defleshed posted:JAG Stuff What are you required to do as a reservist? I've been thinking about looking into it.
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Sep 9, 2010 16:20
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Roger_Mudd posted:Dean had an "all hands on deck" meeting with us today. His message, and I quote: "Re-calibrate your expectations" and "be entrepreneurial". If I had the creativity necessary to be entrepreneurial, I wouldn't have gone to law school.
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Sep 21, 2010 20:17
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Soothing Vapors posted:michigan is literally the worst state in your pitiable union New York
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Sep 29, 2010 17:45
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sigmachiev posted:I mean what's crackin in South Dakota? What does South Dakota do or have? Seriously. Wall Drug
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Sep 29, 2010 18:19
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http://www.law.gwu.edu/News/newsstories/Pages/2010SpaceLawTeam.aspx I wish I practiced Space Law. :-(
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Mookie posted:In other news, I've been talking over the prospect of quitting my job and moving to a small town in the south to open up a solo practice. Comedy is guaranteed to ensue. Are you going to buy a bowling alley?
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evilweasel posted:To make my earlier joke clearer since you're not American: I know I'm being lazy, and I could look this up, but how do law schools differ from med schools? Why are med schools able to control their numbers? Revolver fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Oct 29, 2010 |
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Federal civilian pay freeze. No COLA for the next two years. All legal jobs that still exist are becoming less attractive.
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schwein11 posted:Stumbled upon this thread and wanted to introduce myself -- Clerking for my second judge in two years. First judge was federal district court judge, second judge is a federal magistrate judge in the same courthouse. Located in the upper midwest / rustbelt. Just lined up a more permanent gig at an area law firm (I want to stay in the same geographical area, I was born/raised here and went to law school here). It took me a full year of clerking for one judge and four months of clerking for my second judge before getting my first firm job offer. Insane. Classmates from my TTT law school who didn't fare as well academically (but still did pretty well) are still hunting for jobs. Lesson: don't go to law school unless it's T14 if you want to reasonably be able to find a job when you get out. (I recognize I'm merely adding to the choir here). That's a strange step down. I asssume clerking for the magistrate after the district was driven by the economy?
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schwein11 posted:I went to what is now a third tier law school according to the USNW rankings. It was second tier my first year, but then dropped. I would quibble with the third "T" with respect to my school -- I feel I received a very good legal education there, and I am supportive of my law school, but the sad fact is that our graduates are having a hell of a time finding jobs nowadays. Was your law school, a private school in the Midwest and was your clerkship in the 7th circuit?
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nm posted:I know someone who clerked for the supreme court. That or you can clerk for a non-feeder circuit court judge and then get a Bristow fellowship.
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Petey posted:Right this is an example of what I mean. The differences are insane. It is not something that I realized as a lifelong public school kid. But the elite private high schools - you pay for them because yes, the education is good, but mostly because they will get your kids into Ivies, with prestigious private schools as the safeties. This is an interesting discussion that is predicated on the assumption that it is worth the extra money to send your kid to Harvard for undergrad rather than, for example, the University of Illinois. I'm not sure I buy this. Does it really give a student that much of a leg up to go to an elite undergrad institution? Clearly, it does for law school, but does it really matter as much where you go to college? It seems to me to be more important that you pick a useful major and get good grades. Edit: Maybe we are just a product of our respective environments. I live in DC now, and I definitely see more of an Ivy influence than I did growing up back in the Midwest. I also attended both public high school and public undergrad. Revolver fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Dec 20, 2010 |
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Residency Evil posted:Like I said above, I think the most valuable part about attending an elite institution for undergrad is that you're going to be surrounded by lots of people talking about things like banking, consulting, grad school, professional school and making jokes about Bear Stearns. Now whether that's desirable/you want to start wearing Top-Siders with no socks is up to you, but you're definitely going to learn a lot from a kid whose entire extended family works at GS. Is that worth the added debt though?
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Linguica posted:Did law review, no-offered from 2L firm, graduated median-ish, still unemployed </personalanecdote> Do you wish you had stayed at University of San Diego Law School?
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prussian advisor posted:As long as you're reading the thread, can I ask you a quick question? In the office where you work, and in other offices that you know of, how many of the attorneys would you say either spent time working as a JAG or have other military backgrounds? In my current office, out of 15 or so attorneys, I think one person has a military background (he was Navy officer, but not a JAG). In my last office with about 60 attorneys, I'd say 10 or so had a military background (maybe 5 or so were ex-JAG).
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Linguica posted:It's "School of Law" not "Law School" dude Bummer. I assume you moved back? People need to understand that we have a Michigan Law, law review alumnus without a job. I don't know if you're socially retarded, but if not, that's really depressing.
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:just turned down a job as a patent agent for $120k (after they had offered me $110k). You made a wise choice.
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crankdatbatman posted:I've used TLS a ton, including the forums. And I've even read an Ask/Tell thread from a 3L there. That thread and the website on the whole is much more positive than what I've read here. I know that the employment opportunities are really bad, I've read that everywhere, and I agree. I just don't think it's quite wrist-slitting bad as everyone here is making it out to be. You really need to go to law school. Things really are awesome, and there is no glut of lawyers.
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