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Ainsley McTree posted:I took animal law. It did not help me become an animal We're your dad and law school is a sparkler and you're every new poster that enters here.
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Ainsley McTree posted:How long is that mp3? I kind of want to listen to it but not if it's like an hour long or something. I'm a busy guy! I think like 40 mins.
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Jun 25, 2010 20:30
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All of the unemployed lawgoons could probably run a pretty good Eve-isk/WoW-gold farming business. * work from home * already have game experience * potentially some client relationship experience from summer law jobs * no resume to submit/app to fill out * just as spergy/OCD as looking for typos in credit agreements
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Jun 26, 2010 04:41
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~*~course chat~*~ How's this for 3L course padding: Law of War Law & Literature History of CrimLaw International CrimLaw (and a few important ones like Sexual Offences) There's no international animal rights law class being offered 
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Jun 28, 2010 01:34
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BigHead posted:Isn't History of CrimLaw just the crimlaw you took in 1L? How much more antiquated can that poo poo get? You'd be surprised! Course Syllabus posted:The two dominant legal traditions in much of the world, common law and civil law, emerged in medieval times, and to the present often differ greatly in their modes of prosecution, standards of evidence and nature of proof, form of trial and roles of fact finders. Borrowings between the traditions, in the past and now more frequently, are creating some convergence, but the inner logic of each system remains quite different.
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Jun 28, 2010 04:56
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quote:So how long are y'all planning on being unemployed after graduation before you go get a different degree? A military friend stationed in Afghanistan is already checking out civilian opportunities for someone with my background. Dying to an IED would be a lot better than dying to cirrhosis (alone).
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Jun 29, 2010 05:22
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feedmegin posted:I'm not a lawyer but I was a history student, and calling the Corpus Iuris Civilis mediaeval seems a bit iffy to me, especially since it was formally codifying previous Roman practice. I'll make sure to yell at him for that. quote:Just wait until you get one from a defendant whose record covers multiple states... We had one of these recently! quote:Mr. Kecala age 55 appeals the decision of Superintendent Chris Wyatt, Chief Firearms Officer of Ontario dated September 4, 2008 refusing to issue a firearms licence to him. Mr. Kecala appeared on his own behalf... There's a lot more entertainment in the full judgment. He didn't get his firearm license
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Jun 29, 2010 18:20
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After days of writing and rewriting and ultimately aborting a dozen [articling] cover letters for government ministries and firms that don't really do what I'm truly after, I'm thinking of only applying to the handful of places that really fit me. How terrible a plan is this ~*~in this economy~*~ ? Should I just submit some incredibly basic letter that doesn't really mention why I'm applying to the Ministry of Transportation (for example) or how I'm qualified? Am I just wasting both mine and the hiring committee's time? I kinda brought this up earlier with regard to an admiralty firm, but now I'm a) stumped as to how to spin my narrow experience into more diverse fields, and b) whether I even want to work outside of the criminal or regulatory environment, and c) regardless of whether I want to work there or not, should apply just to get more potential opportunities.
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Jun 30, 2010 03:50
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Dallan Invictus posted:Guess who lucked out. Congrats! Was this through FSWEP? DOJ is my #1 articling location too, their rotation is amazing and they had a 100% hireback rate this year (14/14).
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Jul 1, 2010 15:38
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Skagway is literally the worst town name I've ever heard
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Jul 4, 2010 17:00
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Two days left to submit articling applications. I just received my first letter of reference a couple hours ago. The writer of the second hasn't gotten back to me in a month. 
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Jul 7, 2010 05:53
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TyChan posted:It was sad how much more intellectually and academically rewarding for me BarBRI felt than actual law school. Indeed. I put together a bar course presentation on corporate law for my boss and it basically covered all of the important stuff from an entire semester of Business Associations in 20 slides. Looking back on law school, if there wasn't always a chance that the final exam wanted some obscure case history and/or commentary, bar prep stuff would have been superior to any other study aid. edit: letter of reference finally came. An hour after I (snail-)mailed off my first applications. 
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Jul 7, 2010 21:51
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I was cleaning my room today and found all of the brochures and correspondence and offers from various TTTs (including forum favourites Valpo and Cooley  ). I seriously considered going to them before I found the thread.I wonder what might have been  (actually Lewis & Clark's stuff was kickin' rad and sold the place well, maybe I should keep that one and burn the rest)
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Jul 9, 2010 00:41
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MoFauxHawk posted:I'm really sick of telling people this, and maybe you're just joking, but: Lewis & Clark isn't worth going to UNLESS you're absolutely certain you're interested in environmental justice. It had a really nice campus okay?
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Jul 9, 2010 00:50
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A dude in some of my classes last semester often had friendly banter with the prosecutor and defence counsel teaching our homicide class - I googled his name and he's one of the top psychiatrists in the country and testifies on all the big murder and sex assault cases (esp. involving children or deviant sexual behaviour). No idea what the gently caress he's thinking going to law school, since he was also in some totally non-crim classes.
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Jul 13, 2010 17:39
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nm posted:He probably just thinks it is interesting and might help him at some point (knowing the law can be good for expert witnesses, I worked ina firm that did that type of work once). That's what I figured initially, but he was in awful classes like Secured Transactions, which have literally nothing to do with his practice. Of course he could be doing his JD instead of just taking classes for fun/knowledge/LLM, but that seems like overkill. Good for him though, he was a cool dude.
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Jul 13, 2010 17:58
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Halloween Jack posted:The gist I got from the OP and some other sources is that the shrinking legal market is not only an effect of the recession but a long-term trend which can be expected to continue. Why? What are the factors which are reducing the need for professional highly-educated lawyers? Arbitration and mediation? Cheap legal clinics? Increased ability for people to find (good) legal information themselves? The US justice system moving away from involved and expensive jury trials? Other stuff? In a post-economic downturn world clients are less willing to pay exorbitant amounts for billable hours, so gone are the days when a legion of lawyers would be in a basement billing $1000/hour for document review. They send that poo poo off to India now.
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Jul 14, 2010 18:47
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Oakdale posted:gonna go work lovely jobs for a year in Texas and hang out with old friends I envy every single one of my maxed-out-education-with-high-school friends that get to do this. I'm stressing over a goddamn paper I have to write for my boss while everyone else is out having fun every night before going back to their "lovely" jobs in the morning. Motherfuckers.
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Jul 15, 2010 05:57
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Are you trolling the thread or do you really not have any idea how much a legal education costs these days?
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Jul 15, 2010 18:15
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you should encourage her to go and help her be the best student possible so that she lands at a white-shoe in NY and you can leech off her until the end of days
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Jul 19, 2010 23:07
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I really wish I liked PI because that's where about 95% of the jobs here are. edit: drat now I realized how much practicing Pet Island law would own
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Jul 20, 2010 17:44
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entris posted:I stopped that particular activity once I was enrolled in law school and haven't looked back. Out of all of my friends, I'm the only one who doesn't have a single illegal piece of software or music in his possession. Is this seriously an issue for C&F?
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Jul 20, 2010 18:56
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I drove two blocks without my seatbelt today while playing YouTube music through my phone to the car stereo's aux 
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Jul 21, 2010 16:50
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Phil Moscowitz posted:lmao If I had known you'd av it I would've put the text a bit lower because it doesn't look perfect OH WELL
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Jul 21, 2010 17:48
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I'm seriously poor right now so the only way I could afford to go to NOLA would be a full ride to law school which I will then lose and be forced to live on the streets for a while
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Jul 21, 2010 18:42
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Lykourgos posted:It's the indignity that is overwhelming. Most of these subjects would be illegal for Spartans to practice seriously, and the fact I'm meant to memorise great chunks of this stuff for a highly questionable exam should be a cause of action in and of itself I just cracked open my fortune cookie from dinner - did you write it? "They are never alone who are accompanied by noble thought."
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Jul 22, 2010 05:06
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Articling (and OCI I guess) Call Day is literally the worst day in law school
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Jul 23, 2010 13:27
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Jul 23, 2010 13:51
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soj89 posted:How did it go for you? I thought you were just doing Ottawa? How many interviews? 3 interviews out of 12 apps, which is a crazy good ratio considering a couple friends got 0/80some. Got a downtown Toronto prosecution gig but the Department of Justice rejected me  How'd you do?
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:edit: drat now I realized how much practicing Pet Island law would own Quoting myself from page 80 because I just realized one of my interviews is with the Ministry that does animal cruelty prosecutions 
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CaptainScraps posted:There's got to be a book of pattern jury charges around there somewhere. The Canadian Judicial Council publishes some. http://www.cjc-ccm.gc.ca/english/lawyers_en.asp?selMenu=lawyers_modeljuryinstruction_en.asp It's Canadian though 
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Jul 24, 2010 18:11
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the only thing that's mean is you guys, to prospective students of our noble profession
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Jul 27, 2010 22:55
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I wish I knew more of those people because then ~daddy's little girl~ wouldn't be out taking my jobs. Most of the people I know who got jobs at OCIs had parents for lawyers sooooo
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Jul 28, 2010 16:55
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Roger_Mudd posted:Edit: I think I might compete with this guy for dope Lawyer/MC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUfzOZIv4V0&fmt=18 Rhyme of the fuckin century right here: RAIN FALLS HARD AND GETS YOU ALL WET THE ROAD GETS SLICK DON'T BELIEME ... BET
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Jul 29, 2010 07:21
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Government interviews up here - especially in criminal law ministries - are intense, 45-minute oral examinations about all aspects of the criminal law, sentencing, policy, recent case law, etc. I have two coming up in a week, one of which is for an appellate Crown job, and I haven't been this terrified since hitting "post" on my first SA post.
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Jul 29, 2010 20:31
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Lykourgos posted:Seriously? I've done about 6 prosecution interviews, and for the most part they've ranged from, "yeh real good to read your writing sample; you do what we want to see around here" and "Yes, judge x is a laugh; up for a pint later?" I had a total of one interview that involved the sort of interview questions you see around here or in prep classes, "what does it take to be a good prosecutor?", and after that it just went back to the more pleasant "yeh lol how about that case, drat why'd you think the jury went that way?" Yeah, seriously, we need to have the Crown Policy Manual memorized (dealing with how to treat witnesses and the media, policies regarding sentencing of minors and natives, prosecuting drug crimes, etc), have a grasp of recent case law at the Supreme and Appeal levels, and for the articling interviews be ready to answer what x section of the Criminal Code is. Some of it is boring crap like "how do you work in teams." All of your answers are graded numerically, and they take the candidates with the best scores to a higher-level hiring committee to discuss more general poo poo like "fit". ~*bureaucracy*~
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poofactory posted:Hey guys, when sending my office your unsolicited resumes, please address it to someone in particular and include a cover letter so we at least know for which job you are begging. should the photo of my dick be attached to the application package or faxed later with supplemental material?
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Aug 2, 2010 16:19
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Daico posted:First semester and part of the second, I had recurring dreams that I was enrolled in a math class that I'd completely forgotten about and was failing. The "scheduled for a final in a class I never knew I took" has been a staple of my dreams for at least a decade.
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3L is going to rule. Should I write about steampunk or cyberpunk in my Law & Literature class? Maybe space operas? 
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gvibes posted:So looks like I'm doing OCI for my firm this year. How do you suggest terrorizing the poor saps we aren't offering jobs to? Go to your old school's exam database and pick out some shorter questions from whatever practice area you're in. Grill the fuckers.
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