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Donkey Darko
Aug 13, 2007

I do not lust for blood or death. I prepare for the warrior's call.
We're getting two 8-week old females tomorrow, with a reasonably large cage from a local pet-shop/small animal breeder. I went to speak to him before I considered buying, and all of the rats seem well cared for and socialised, and they in fact insisted I bought more than one as it would be better for them in the long run.

Now, is 8-weeks still a little young, and if so, do I have to be aware of any dietary requirements or the like, or should I be okay with one of the many recommended mixes in the OP?

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Donkey Darko
Aug 13, 2007

I do not lust for blood or death. I prepare for the warrior's call.
Getting them in a few hours, so bloody excited. Will post pictures once we get them home and settled.

Should I leave them alone for a while before handling them, or should I just give them a cuddle after they've settled slightly?

Donkey Darko
Aug 13, 2007

I do not lust for blood or death. I prepare for the warrior's call.
Some pictures of my new friends!


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Meet Pam and Boo.


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This is Boo, and she is almost hooded, but the line down her spine is broken into sections, which a big splodge in the middle of her back.


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This is Pam, she's a strange browny/grey colour all over, and the more dominant of the two.


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Bonus shot of Pam being Camera shy.


They are lovely, I gave them an hour to get settled in after the ride home and grabbed them individually for a good cuddle. Pam fell asleep on me almost straight away, which was :3: but Boo is very nervous still and would rather stay in her cage and sleep in her little house than come out to play -- I will be persistent however.

Donkey Darko
Aug 13, 2007

I do not lust for blood or death. I prepare for the warrior's call.
Well, Pam made a daring escape today, by taking advantage of the fact I wasn't paying close enough attention to her and leaping out from my arms and under the bed.

30 mins later, we found her and caught her, but I am concerned that I won't be able to have her out to play as much if I have to spend every second making sure she isn't going to escape! We've rat-proofed the room as best we can, but they're both so small, I'm sure they'd find a way out of the room and into the teeth of my mom's little terrier.

I'd have no problem with them running around if I were convinced they'd come back to me or the cage eventually, but I've only had them a couple of days so I seriously doubt she would if she could find some alternative food source (like the kitchen, for instance).

Any suggestions on how to socialise adventurous tiny rats, while not having them go AWOL, would be gratefully received.

I think I suck at picking toys for them too, as they've shown zero interest in anything we've offered them.

That said, Boo, is a complete fuss-pot and likes nothing better than getting her belly-rubbed and falling asleep on me.

Donkey Darko
Aug 13, 2007

I do not lust for blood or death. I prepare for the warrior's call.

Slidje posted:

For the first 2 weeks i get rats I never let them out the cage unless its in my shirt or I'm holding them. When they go back in i give them a treat.

Free time comes carefully later. I'll open the cage and sit in front, if they try to run past me or behind the cage I'll pop them back in. If they come to me and sit in my lap its belly rubs and treats.

They'll only play with toys when they're bored in their cage. I've had a whole bunch of rat toys but the only things they've liked are wine corks, wood chews and those bird seed things you hang in bird cages.
They HATE feathers.

Mine dont like toys probably because I don't keep my rats locked up once they're settled, they have a free run of the room. They go back to the cage for food and sleep. Rats are very destructive so I don't recommend them running free all the time unless you dont care about what they break in your room.


Thanks, that's really helpful advice! I am going to restrict them to my arms/shoulder and wandering around showing them the room for a bit until they're more settled.

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Donkey Darko
Aug 13, 2007

I do not lust for blood or death. I prepare for the warrior's call.

dog days are over posted:

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Getting a reasonably young rat is going to be fine as you'll get a chance to know them better, and since they only live about three years, you'll get more time to play! My first rats were a bit older/larger than the two I have now, but if you read up and you're careful with them (unlike me letting Pam make her escape!), you'll be absolutely fine. You'll also need to decide if you want Males or Females, as there is a difference between the overall size and temperament of the different sexes.

A quick search turned up http://www.neratsociety.co.uk/links.html, which looks like it would be a good place to find rat breeders -- even if they are not local, some might be a short(-ish) drive away, so pick a a couple and give them a ring. Most breeders of small animals I've dealt with are pretty much family-run businesses/sole traders, so a bad website or no website shouldn't concern you too much (after all, you're not going to mail-order them, so you're not really interested in their web-design skills), but if you get a bad feeling after speaking to one, then look somewhere else.

A rescue rat (or any rescue animal) may have issues that you would not get with young rats from a breeder, like poor socialisation, illness/injury or it even may have been abused, so while there's no problem with getting one you may have to give it some special treatment. If you want an easier time, it might be better to get your first couple of rats from a breeder and look at rescuing when you have a bit of experience.

Just remember, you can't buy a single rat, it's not fair on it as they are very social, and while you'll be a great owner/friend, you're not a rat and you're not going to be around 24 hours a day.

Donkey Darko fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Aug 3, 2010

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