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froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Bobnumerotres posted:

Is there some sort of megathread on somethingawful on "How to get the gently caress out of retail" or something? So many people on here have office jobs at the water cooler or just don't have to deal with customers and get paid decently/greatly and I'm wondering how I even get those jobs.

Considering there's so many different pathways to getting out of retail it's basically a choose your own adventure of picking something you're good at and either relying on nepotism, prior experience, or education to get you in.

E.g. I got out of retail by doing a few short courses at community college while studying for a degree in computer science, then spinning my retail and university experience in a positive light to secure myself a job with an ISP.
Another person I know hated retail so they studied a pre-apprenticeship qualification at TAFE then became an electricians apprentice.

It just depends on what you want to do, if any training/education is available within your area about it (and if there's a market that will pay for whatever skill you have) and whether you can afford to spend the time and money on developing your skills or trying to freelance your non-retail skills.

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froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

silversiren posted:

Unfortunately we can't even do this. We can only "kindly suggest" they go to another register and even then we still risk getting in trouble if a customer complains that we offended them. Plus, I mean, 15, 20, 30 items, that's close to 10, right?

Customers used to do that all the time when I worked at [Australian Supermarket Chain]. Worst was when this situation arises:
*Two people (usually a husband + wife) show up at 12 items or less counter with 24 items*
:) Hey it looks like you've got more than 12 items, the line's pretty long, could you just go to the other lanes?
:byodame:+:byodood: WELL THERE'S TWO OF US RIGHT SO WE'VE BOTH GOT 12 ITEMS EACH HAR HAR HAR THAT SHOULD MAKE IT OKAY, RIGHT???
:) Well sure if you want me to separate the transactions
:byodame:+:byodood: WELL WHAT ABOUT OUR FUEL VOUCHER* YOU NEED TO PUT THROUGH IT ALL AT ONCE
:) Well you've got too many items, I'd suggest going to a different register.

Self-entitled, lazy gits like this are the worst.
* Edit: at the time, all transactions over $30 meant you got a voucher that would give you 4 cents per litre off fuel.

froglet fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jul 13, 2011

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Pidmon posted:

Isn't the fuel voucher thing still running, or are you at a different chain where it's not a thing anymore?

Also the fuel voucher is a godsend.

I wasn't sure if it was still a thing because I haven't worked there for a few years now, and I don't normally use the vouchers. I checked just then and apparently vouchers are still being printed off.
Though I found an odd correllation between a persons financial planning skills when it came to grocery shopping and how anal they were about the fuel vouchers. It seemed that people who often showed up to the store without enough money to pay for all the groceries they selected were also the ones most vocal about making sure all their transactions were arranged into $30 lots or would get upset when they realised they didn't have $30. Weird.

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

SlaveToTheGrinds posted:

Welp keep your fingers toes and other appendages crossed for me. Tonight will be day 39..and after loud whining to every co worker I come in contact with hoping it will get back to bossman I think I have Friday and Saturday off this week. Two loving days. I know for a fact that the two that are covering me are pissed as hell but at this point my sanity is really failing and my hands are hosed on toast. I need this so loving bad. Taking the kid to a comic con this weekend too so yay.

On the down side I know I have a complaint coming. Chick didn't like the way her bagel was "slapped together", she came back in snottily as gently caress asked for a knife I tell her oh i'm so sorry I will cut that in half for you. She storms out an calls five minutes later asking for a manager, couldhave bluffed through it didn't an tol her to call back later. Uggh. SO good an bad for me hopefully.

Grinds, I'm pretty sure I've said this before, but you need to make sure your boss realises how not okay this is.

Please visit a lawyer who specialises in labour laws and run past him the legality of making you work every day for weeks on end. Failing that, visit a doctor or therapist who can give you a note stating that you're being rendered too ill by your workplace and require a day or two a week off.

Please tell your boss "I need one day a week off, I cannot go in that day" and don't let your coworkers bitch you out about it. If they're unhappy about working weekends they need to speak to your boss about it, since I'm assuming he's the one who organises the roster. Stop asking your coworkers to cover for you, demand that he starts regularly rostering you off.

Repeat this mantra - your bosses staffing problems are not yours. Each time he says 'I cannot find somebody to cover for you' you need to tell him that is not your concern.

Reading your posts is a whole lot of :smith:. I hope things get better for you soon. :sympathy:

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Sue Denim posted:

If it makes any difference I'm an Australian who lives in Victoria and am employed casually by Woolworths and I am covered under their Enterprise Bargaining Agreement.

Disclaimer - I worked for Woolies for nearly a year in another state.

Are you with the union? If so, call them. Seriously, this kind of thing is their forte. If not, get a unionised buddy to call on your behalf (because this directly affects them). Do you have a union representative at your store? Not trying to spruik the union to you, but most retail places I worked had some sort of union rep who was used to dealing with these sorts of enquiries.

I've never been through the process of lodging anything regarding conditions beyond filling out a form about how I got locked in an industrial freezer, however I do believe they are obliged to provide you with the EBA since it applies to you. Your direct supervisor may not have them - it's possible you may need to talk to a store or department manager depending on how large the Woolies you work at is. Hell, see if you can pick up a shift or two in another department and see if you can get a copy from the manager there.

One thing I'd like to add is this - supervisors and line managers in retail tend to not have any training in personnel management at all. To them it sounds perfectly reasonable to ask you to stay late and cast suspicion on injuries and anybody who questions their little reign over the staff is seen as a threat.
Man that reminds me how awful the management at my first job was. They'd call my home phone and ask my mum if I was home and if they could leave a message of 'hi froglet could you please come to work as soon as you get this message' which lead to me having to justify to my mum why I shouldn't just drop everything to go to work (the money was awful and they'd often call me when I was in the middle of something).

Good luck!

froglet fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Oct 17, 2011

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

drat Bananas posted:

So, managers/admin decided that that meant I was changing my availability back to all day erry day, when I signed no such document. The most recent form they have on file from me says I'm only available one Sunday per month.

Just tell them they got the wrong end of the stick. Say your schedule freed up at the last minute for this week and things have since gone back to normal and you can't work all those hours. It's not your problem they made assumptions about your availabilities for work without talking to you about it.

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

Fil5000 posted:

See, no. I am not submitting to a search just because "I should have nothing to hide". They're working on an assumption that everyone is shoplifting, which isn't supported by the majority of legal systems these stores operate within. If you want to look through my stuff (that I've just this minute given your business money for) then tough, it's my stuff. If you think I'm shoplifting then call a policeman and have me arrested.

I swear practically everyone in retail hates this policy too. I gave no fucks about checking peoples bags and just took the hit to my score when the secret shopper went by. Anyone who checks bags in retail usually has management breathing down their neck to do it.

One thing I'd love to know about retail is... are those eco-friendly bags they sell at the front of the store really all that eco-friendly? I would have assumed the environmental costs associated with gathering the materials, dying them bright green, branding them with 'WOOLWORTHS' or 'COLES' and sending them to each store would have had more of an environmental cost than the plastic bags themselves. That and they still use plastic bags (for when customers invariably forget to bring along their green bags).
Though I must admit those folding enviro-bags are really handy - I keep one in my handbag at all times now.

My guess is that they're not environmentally friendly at all unless the shops phased out most plastic bags and everyone remembered to bring in their green bags.

froglet fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Jan 6, 2012

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

cobalt impurity posted:

How about instead of checking everyone's bag like they're visiting a prison you just walk the floors and look for people who are actually acting suspicious or blatantly stealing?

I think the what happened was the ferals stealing started crying foul about being 'unfairly targeted' (despite being know to shops and police as serial offenders). This is a problem if the thieves are of any ethnic minority - shops dislike having an image of discriminating. It's probably easier to check everyone's bags than it is to prowl the aisles trying to catch thieves.

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

bee posted:

After patiently and politely pointing out to the owner of the store I work in that the last three payslips she has issued me are incorrect, she eventually got her poo poo together and paid me correctly. One of these was actually an over-payment, which I could have ignored and just pocketed but I try to do the right thing.

This week, the new rosters have come out. I do not have any shifts. Not one. Apparently, the owner has a friend that needed a job so she's put her on as a permanent part-time employee, meaning she is guarenteed 20 hours per week. Since I'm just a casual, apparently I don't get to have any shifts.

Amazing coincedence? I think not.

Depending on where you live, this could be 'constructive dismissal'. Unfortunately where I live (Australia) constructive dismissal doesn't exist if you're a casual employee, thus people can (and do) get hosed over by this sort of thing. I hear it's a favourite tactic at fast food outlets such as McDonalds to get rid of 'troublemakers' (i.e. people who know their rights).

I recommend just starting to apply for other jobs like crazy - sorry to be a downer, but it sounds like you've been labelled as a troublemaker and your managers friend is always going to win out over you.

froglet fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Mar 25, 2012

froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

stab posted:

Rose McGowan eating popcorn and critiquing her movie!

I am desperately curious as to what film and what she said about it. :justpost:

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froglet
Nov 12, 2009

You see, the best way to Stop the Boats is a massive swarm of autonomous armed dogs. Strafing a few boats will stop the rest and save many lives in the long term.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs. Vote Greens.

NaturalLow posted:

We also sell plenty of crazy survivalist and home defense magazines

:stare:
There is a demand for this stuff to the point there are magazines? I'm not American so I may be grossly underestimating the number of lunatics out there, but it's mindblowing that there are enough people who are interested in that sort of thing that there is an in-print magazine.

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