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syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I have a question regarding headphones. Bit of backstory first though.

I currently run a Vox Pathfinder10 (10W solid state practice thing) which is a lovely little thing. For cleans at least. Overdrive is, honestly, horrendous. It has three modes: Completely clean, the tiniest bit of overdrive or terrible white noise. So I'm looking at replacing it some time this year, but I'm not in a hurry. I've basically decided to go for something nice but not overkill like a 100W Marshall stack. My budget will probably be around AU$1000 plus or minus a bit. The main culprits I'm looking at are Vox AC15s in the price range, possibly an AC30VR and Blackstars (HT-5R or Club 40 or something).

The music I want to play ranges from folk-esque stuff (Bright Eyes, Neutral Milk Hotel) to alt rock (Smashing Pumpkins, Sonic Youth) and punk (Dillinger Four, Green Day, Blink) to even some metal (Woods of Ypres, Tool). So I'm all over the place. I'm not aiming for some golden tone where I have exactly one thing in mind. I just want something that will do everything I need clean well while still going dark and heavy when I feel like downtuning. So any suggestions in that price range would be good. I do want to test drive them before blindly buying so I'll be doing that over the course of the year.

I want something I can conceivably gig with in small venues. I have no idea if a Club 40 is overkill for that. The other side is I still want to play and practice with something nice, so it needs to be able to play nicely low. I'm not concerned about the "tube break-up at high volumes". So it needs to be able to deliver bedroom sounds.

Now my question. I notice no tube amps really have headphone jacks, which would give me the best of both worlds. But many (At least the Blackstars) have speaker emulated output. Can I use this to drive headphones? I'd really like to just deal with one amp, and if I can use headphones but still use it for small gigs (House parties or whatever) that'd be sweet as. IS this achievable?

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syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

massive spider posted:

The blackstar would be more versatile than the vox for hard rock. You can use headphones from the emulated out though I recall it being only in mono from one ear.

If you really want to use headphones a pocket POD or similar is what I would recommend, rather than trying to get an amp which has it as a feature because many gigging designed amps dont. I have a POD HD sitting on my computer desktop which both acts as my soundcard and goes into either headphones or regular computer speakers for all my home practicing. My amps just sit in the basement until I have a gig.

Bugger. I did some more reading and the HT1/5 series have stereo out. The larger ones are mono. I know I was expecting too much probably, but I was really hoping there'd be a way where I only need one amp/sound thing. I guess just using my current amp clean as what it's meant to do (Practice) with maybe a fuzz so I know what dirty sound I might get?

I really wanted someone to say "Get the larger amp, you can sit it on one and it'll be bedroom playable!" I guess.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Hey guys! A bit of background: I used to work as a computer technician and study programming and the like. However, the combination really burnt me out on anything IT. My reprieve was buying a guitar as it was a hobby I wasn't having to work with all the time. Well, conditions have changed and I no longer do IT stuff much any more. So that means electronics are back to being a fun hobby. It's been a while but I still know how to solder and breadboard prototype. I don't have any equipment but will be picking some up.

So I was trying to think of a fun electronics project that will/might be actually useful. I was thinking maybe effects pedals, but then I thought, an amp! I intend to buy a good amp but the better I get at guitar the more I'm liking my "terrible" solid state practice amp (Vox Pathfinder 10). I've listened and played with plenty of tube and SS amps and although the tube amps sounded better I'm half convinced that the reason is that the tube ones were inherently higher tier, in both production and price. 'Course, it's probably the reverse (Higher price because better) but I really dig on a well done solid state. The clipping and stuff most people hate on SS amps doesn't worry me, honestly.

Anyway, my idea is to build a solid state amp I like. I've found schematics for little 1W amps with one channel and I'm thinking of starting with one of those, then modifying the circuit until I get what I want. Little bits at a time, so just the very basics and then, say, adding a bigger power section or what have you. Small improvements. Lots of modifying cause it's fun.

My question is just if this sounds reasonable. I'm not going to be building amps to sell (And who would buy a solid state amp at a price that wouldn't screw me? No one, that's who) just as a personal project to reignite my passion in electronics. If I can tweak and find "my sound" in that amp, all the better. Fun project or am I dooming myself?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Handen posted:

@syntaxfunction: Fun project. Go for it. A good buddy of mine buys tube amp kits and puts them together for fun. I don't know of any solid state amp kit suppliers but it certainly wouldn't be out of the question.

That's all the encouragement I need! I'll definitely post here when I have some horrible failures.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I'm looking for suggestions for a new amp. I've been playing for about two and a half years now, and finally have a bit of money spare for Christmas time. I'm quite happy with my guitars and pedals for the most part (Although who couldn't have more?) but I've been using a Vox Pathfinder 10 for the entire time. I really like the clean of the Vox, but the overdrive channel leaves something to be desired. It also suffers from the fact that to change from clean to dirty you need to physically press a button. I don't gig right now so it's more a convenience thing, but I do write songs and it helps me to go from clean to dirty immediately.

To currently do that I get my dirt via a Bass Big Muff and Jet City Shockwave Distortion. These are fine and I love the sounds they offer, but I'm also being outmatched in volume at jam sessions. 10W isn't really cutting it in a group session though it's fine for playing at home.

So I'm looking at a new amp. I'm thinking I might as well get something decently large I could possibly gig at small venues, with two channels, a nice clean and a heavy dirt channel. My dirt sound is not really traditional metal like Metallica and the like but veers more towards alternative rock (Think Pumpkins) to sludge/doom (Woods of Ypres and that sort). I could always get a single channel amp with a good clean, but I love the sounds you get from an amp's dirty channel. It's something that's hard to replicate with pedals.

Anyway, Big Muff good, Shockwave good (Although right now I use it at a low gain which is a rarity for me) but amp dirt needs to be good too. I downtune low enough (Maybe Drop B?) but not to Djent levels. I'm not really digging stock Marshall's or the classic rock/metal amps. Budget is around AUD$800 for a head. The big runners for me, if I can get a chance to play them all, are the Jet City 50W head, the Blackstar HT-50H and especially the Vox Night Train 50H.

If you need any specifics about my playing I can provide, but I'm leaning to the Vox because it's supposed to have AC30 style cleans (Like my current amp, but betterer!) and from what I've heard online it doesn't do "metal" that well, but seems to have a heavier, non-scooped sludgey sound when dimed.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I tried out a bunch of amps this last month and I had pretty much decided on the Night Train (The Tweaker didn't sit quite right for me). I went in on Friday with my friend/bandmate to try it again and get a second opinion and we both thought it was the best for how I play. So I put down money. It's gonna be my Christmas present to myself. Hooray, finally getting a "real" amp! If anyone's interested when it comes in I can record a couple samples.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
So I posted that I was getting a Night Train. It is now paid for and 100% mine. It's so pretty and it sounds awesome. I kept seeing/hearing reviews where they were complaining that it was "too bright" but I can get some doomy/sludgey kinda sounds from it just fine. I haven't even run my pedals through it yet, just been using the guitar straight to amp. I have no idea why I haven't seem more people use them. It basically hit every sort of sound I want, except for specialist sounds like a Dual Rec or Soldano or something (Although GAS being GAS, I might end up with a Jet City for that).

What surprised me is that at low, bedroom levels it still sounds aces and doesn't do that annoying thing where the first little turn makes it too loud. Fairly linear though I haven't gunned it yet. Anyway, a picture! Little 10W, 6.5" Pathfinder for scale.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Absolutely fantastic cleans. I actually played it side by side with an AC30 and I'd say it does the clean chime thing just as well as it, but at like half the price. I am a bit biased though as I've always preferred Vox cleans over Fender cleans, but one of my criteria for a new amp was it had to have great cleans. I often do the 90s alt-rock thing, going clean to dirty and back. The tone cut does well if it's a little too chimey, rolling off the highs just a little bit. I was actually surprised at how clean it stayed when getting the gain up. At about 1/2 o'clock it starts getting a little hint of crunch and if you crank it it's a little crunchy but not overly so (Until you engage the Thick mode). So it's got quite a bit of headroom for that sort of thing.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I have a question regarding volume. I read on the Reverb blog that you should use a cab with twice the wattage capabilities of your amp's stated wattage, and that you can use a 50W cab with a 50W head but you shouldn't dime everything and use pedals that boost the volume. That doesn't really make sense to me when you have cabs designed for amps that are the same wattage as the amp. Surely they wouldn't make a cab specifically for an amp only to have it poo poo itself when you decide to actually turn it up or use a loud pedal. If my cab is rated at 60W and my amp is 50W does that mean if I really crank it and chuck in a volume boosting pedal (Like a Pickle or something cranked) it's a bad thing? That seems a bit stupid.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
What are the new VHT amps like? They sound good in demos but apparently they're Chinese made now? How's the reliability?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

hey all, first post in the amp thread, please be gentle:

so I'm looking for a small bedroom-style practice amp that's also good for recording, and ideally I don't want to spend more than $100. the two I'm looking at are the Vox Pathfinder 10 and the Vox AD30VT. I can get either one of these for about $80. anyone have any experience with either of these? I'm leaning towards the Pathfinder because there's one at the shop near me that I can try first, and I don't really need all the amp modeling that comes with the 30. but the 30 also has a preamp tube, and tubes are cool.

my current amp is a Peavey Classic 50, which I love, but I can't really get its full potential out of it without really cranking it up.

I own a Pathfinder 10 and I'd say try it out, because the VT has the extra power.. I still use the Pathfinder as a practice amp and it does sound great (At least the clean does; the drive is okay) with the classic Vox sound, but the VT will have that sound too. It's surprisingly low end friendly despite the 6.5" speaker. It does lack tweakability though. You get Gain, Volume, Treble and Bass. That's it. The VT has Mids and other amp effects. Although that being said, if you don't care for the effects and amp sims then it's great and probably on par with the VT except it lacks footswitching. But if you've got pedals in front (No FX loop obviously) then that's not so much of an issue.

The line out lacks speaker emulation by the way, so if you're recording through that you'll need a cab sim. So to recap, the VT might be a better choice if:
1. You need the extra power.
2. You want the amp/effect options.
3. You want to tweak mids.
4. You really don't want a 6.5" speaker.
5. It costs less/the same/a tiny bit more.

If you can get them at the same price I can't see what the Pathfinder would offer over the VT. I guess if you really hate digital amps?

Re: Marshall chat, I think the JCM 800 is cool and awesome, but screw one channel amps. Maybe one day when I'm rich I can get one and run a second amp for clean...

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Vox talk. I've had my Night Train for almost half a year now and I've gotta say it's the best amp I've ever tried. No, it won't likely do djent-y goodness but it can do standard metal fine, and has a lovely almost fuzzy doomy goodness with a neck humbucker. I highly recommend people try one out. Maybe it's just me but it's handled everything I've thrown at it, Strats to LPs to Schecters with actives. I don't get a chance to really play it too often at a decent volume (50W in a bedroom will do that) but every time I get a chance to stretch its legs it's wonderful.

The only reason I mention this is because I've noticed it disappearing on some retailers. Andertons doesn't stock it, my local stores are just trying to move old stock, et cetera. I've got a feeling they might get discontinued. Which is fine for me, I've already got one and if I already have "my sound" then I don't need more. But it's a shame that such a great amp is getting ignored. It's amazingly well built, feels solid as, sounds great and is a great price. I had the choice of an AC30 or my 50H with a 2x12. Very glad I went with the Night Train.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I'm not in the market for one yet but I'm curious as to who here has experience with those Jet City heads. I own a Shockwave pedal of theirs and I like it and it seems to be built well but all the experience I have. Sound wise I've played with both the JCA100H as well as the SLO-100 but that was in AmpliTube. I like both and they're similar in sound while not quite the same. Having said that I like the idea of 90% of a Soldano for 1/5 of the price. I'm looking to, at some stage, get another amp (And cab possibly?) for playing more thrashy metal. My Vox Night Train handles sludgy, doomy metal well but it isn't quite, uh, focused (?) enough to play any thrashier stuff. I've been trying to branch out of my niche in terms of music and I've found learning a bit more metal is getting me out of a bit of a rut. Anyway, the Jet City 50W head + 4x12 cab seems pretty nice for AU$1500. Much more wallet friendly than the $6000 SLO + $1900 4x12 I can get here. If I had the money I'd go all the way Soldano, mind.

So yes, experiences with Jet City heads and cabs? It's mainly reliability I'm concerned about, given Chinese made mass-produced amps vs boutique American stuff. And to throw it in, metal heads that aren't the 5150/6505? Any opinions?

PS: Orange Micro Terror. ~AU$200. Worth it? Does it do "Orange"?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I've been experimenting with layering guitars lately and have decided that I need an Orange to pair with my Vox Night Train. Question: How Orange is the Micro Terror? Does it do the Orange sound, but quieter? I'd love to just say gently caress it and get a Rockerverb or Thunderverb, but that's like $2k I don't have. I want the thick, fat Orange distortion sound the most out of it. Opinions?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I do like the OR15 but it's $1k here. I should've mentioned my budget is a bit restrictive. I could go up to maybe AU$500. That's why I was looking at the Micro Terror and hoping it was Orange enough. Even the Tiny Terror is a bit too much right now. Or is the Micro Terror really too much of a toy? I was planning to run it through my 212 loaded with Celestion G12H30s. If it's not gonna do it though I'd rather wait and save, even though it's $200.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Are you looking for a combo or head? What sort of wattage? I know the VHT Special 6 apparently does a good Fender impression with a bi more grit if you crank it. Head or combo. I've been thinking of grabbing one myself actually.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
AmpliTube comes with two Fender style amp models and matching cabs. They don't work great for pushed sounds but for cleans they're, well, Fender cleans. Not Bassman's though. Deluxe Reverb and Super Reverb apparently.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I've heard nothing but good things about the Vox AmPlugs. Goon recommendations from what I tell.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I've been GASing for a Marshall-esque sounding head to go with my Vox. Mainly worried about crunch and high gain. Unfortunately a DSL15H here runs like AU$1000. A Blackstar 5W head is AU$900. Crazy prices.

However, a Jet City JCA22H is only AU$500. I've read nothing but good things about them. Stupid idea?

Edit: Ha, I realised I've asked about this stuff before a number of times. I think I just need reasonable people to talk me down every time.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I have a bizarre request for anyone that knows about schematics and stuff (I do not!). Basically, I have a hunch that the "Thick" circuit for the Night Train is the same as the "Normal" channel for the AC15 or 30. Just because comparing the two they have the same pre-amp breakup point and react so similarly. The "Bright" channel stays clean for days and only starts breaking up right at the end of the gain level, but I swear the Thick and Normal circuits are the same, especially since they both have two controls plus the Tonecut to control them (AC15 has "Volume/MV" and NT has "Gain/MV" so basically the same thing).

I'm not going anywhere with this, I just have a suspicion that they're either the same, or really dang close. It's bothering me so I was wondering if anyone could give me closure!

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
No no, that's applicable. I was working on the assumption that the Thick mode was the Normal circuit from an AC15, and the bright channel was that with added EQ options. It likely differs but that was the guess I was making, just because of the similarities.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
With bass amps, what are some good, readily available bass amps that either do the crunchy thing really well or are two channel? Basically my buddy on bass loves him some dirt. He owns a JHS Low Drive, Swollen Pickle, Boss DS-1 and a Yamaha OD (That needs repair). He loves him some dirt. So he was looking at an OB-1 500 or a Terror Bass (Did I mention he's in love with Orange? He is and he currently owns an Orange Crush 50 bass combo). Those are both single channel amps, both with SS power amps and the TB has a tube preamp. He really loves the idea of that smooth tube breakup but is, at the moment, married to the idea of an Orange. And that combo doesn't come cheap it seems.

TL;DR what are some cool bass amps that are easy to find that do sweet "toob overdrive"? Or should he suck it up, get a loud, clean amp and use pedals?

For reference, we're in Brisbane, Australia.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Pokey Araya posted:

Show him these:

I've recorded with the AD-200b as heard here, all tube single channel : http://youtu.be/GRhUxJAiUtM

And a demo I did of the OB-1 500s here, solid state, with the footswitchable drive as kinda second channel : http://youtu.be/H5bcYtOw9Us

I had a chat to him yesterday and turns out that the AD-200B is his holy grail, which I thought was pretty funny. He just hasn't got the money for it now or any time soon. Also we don't play out much if at all, so there's that. Awesome demos though man (Well, demo and song), and I just have to ask, you had protection in when you did the OB-1 video, right? Cause that poo poo must've been deafening.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

GreatGreen posted:

The best possible fix for this is for you to put two noise gates in your chain. One between your guitar and amp, then one between your preamp and poweramp, if your amp has an effects loop.

First, unplug your guitar and instrument cable from the amp completely, then dial in your effects loop noise gate appropriately. Next, disengage the effects loop noise gate and now dial in the noise gate between your guitar and amp. After that one is setup, turn them both on. Profit!

If you can only add one noise gate, put it between your guitar and amp.

Building on this the ISP Decimator G-String can link two pedals together. So basically if the front pedal mutes (From the clean signal) so does the one in the loop. So you just need to get the muting on the front pedal right. No idea how much they cost, though apparently they're awesome.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I find Fender history so fascinating and I love when I see posts or blogs that detail aspects of it. What's funny is that the distinguished Fender sound is generally not my cup of tea, though I do respect people who use it because drat they get some good sounds.

For reference I think a Fender into a Fender is twangy and "springy" and sounds loving atrocious when I do it.

But do one about the Bassman next, please! It's got a sound unlike other Fenders I've tried and I actually really dig it.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

DEUCE SLUICE posted:

this motherfucker led me on a futile path towards seeing if you can mute someone on youtube

gently caress glenn fricker
It's funny you say that because when I first started learning about audio production he popped up and I thought, "man, he's annoying but he seems to know his poo poo." After a while I realised that's he's more pomp and obnoxiousness than knowledge. He's also quite hypocritical too. He goes on and on emphasising taht your band should have a unique sound but god forbid (Sorry, "by Krom's balls" or some poo poo because lolfuckthiestsright? I'm not even religious and that poo poo got old fast) you want to use any amp outside established major amps (Marshall JCM800/Peavey 5150/Mesa Dual Rectifier etc) or a cab not loaded with Vintage 30s and mic'd with an SM57. "Oh you can do it differently but basically I'm right." You've also gotta love any YouTube person who chooses to reply to comments in a video, so they have no chance to retort or say anything back. They aren't even good mic drops, just boring "Yeah, because SCREAMING ISN'T TROO METALZ NEXT COMMENT".

Also the fact that he's not even a full time producer. He's made comments that it's a side thing and he prefers to just do YouTube stuff. That's fine, but the way he talks you'd think he had some A list albums under his belt. I think the only thing he did I thought was any good after looking it up was the Woods of Ypres albums. And he said he hated making them.

Sorry, ranting. The dude pisses me off. Oh, oh, maybe he'll find this and put in a witty comeback in his next video! The dumb gently caress.

Sockington posted:

What about Jet City? They make a lot of two channel amps at decent prices.
I'm actually looking at Jet City at the moment too, to complement my Night Train (Which is awesome and you should get one). The one thing that stands out is that you do have to get the 50H or 100HDM for a true clean channel. The crunch channel on the 22H is the single channel from the 20H. It's designed to break up fairly early.

Having said that they sound loving fantastic from what I've seen and heard, and I can get the 22H and 212 for AU$850. If only I had the disposable.

They are essentially Soldanos or hot rodded Marshalls depending how you look at it, so if that sound doesn't click then they're probably not for you. But yeah, my first choice of two (really three) channel amps is my Night Train and I'm seriously considering grabbing a Jet City when possible. So that's my recommendations.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
For sure, I didn't mean to imply he doesn't know anything just that his videos are like 90% him telling you how great he is and how his way is the best way. I agree on a bunch of stuff (like the mic cupping thing) and I learnt the trick of adding a sub bass tone for the kick if it isn't hitting hard enough. It's mainly his videos went from trying to give helpful advice (even if annoying as hell while doing it) to just trying to sell himself as king poo poo. That's my take anyway.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Is there a recommended combined DI and loadbox? I have a 50W head and would like to play through it into my interface without a cab, and I am aware I would require a cab impulse.

What I'm chasing is something so I go guitar -> amp -> loadbox/DI -> interface. I see a lot of attenuators and a bunch of DIs but I want an ideally silent recording setup but with my head. Mainly so I can cut demos that actually somewhat resemble what the final sound might be.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
That looks to be a very good option although I'd have to opt for the higher model as my amp is 50 TOOB watts.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Appreciate the offer on the Weber but I lack funds right now to do anything. Interesting posts on it though, I always assumed (because internet) that running power tubes cranked always sounded better. The more you know.

What's the deal with that Carvin by the way? I probably missed the conversation. Based on anything in particular? Looks like it's going for a tweed sort of thing.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Gorgar posted:

Here's what I hear: Not shrill, in fact I'd ask for more presence. Lots of mids, more low mids than high. No bass to speak of. Sounds like what I'd expect a little amp at full gain to sound like.

Same, I'm using Sennheiser HD280 Pro headphones if that helps. Not much bass in it, but you probably won't need that in a mix anyway. I think the treble is pleasant and good, a there's a good chunk of mids, even though it's hella low in your picture. Lots of lower mids as said.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
How stupid would it be to build my own preamp? I've been looking at this and I've always wanted a Hiwatt, and I want a little project to work on. At this stage I only really want to build the preamp and run it into my interface. So basically I want to build that PDF as listed and then get the output as a line out. That isn't too crazy an idea is it?

I want to do this to learn how the circuits work and possibly tweak and make it a bit more of what I want. I have no intentions of starting a business and selling these to people. Just a project for myself. I would like to eventually build a full amp with power section and all that, but as I can't have high volumes where I am right now I figure a preamp would be a good start. Bad idea?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

This is a great project to learn everything you want to learn with one caveat: the filament of a preamp tube can run at like 12v which is babby poo poo but the anode... the thing that gets real hot so the electrons flow real good, that thing runs at 120V+++++ and can give you a real bad day. As a project to do for fun and learning it's not the best place to start, safety-wise.

A safer alternative that runs at 9v would be to make a MOSFET version in a pedal: http://shop.pedalparts.co.uk/MegaHIWatt_Vintage_HIWATT_Amp_Tone/p847124_11129948.aspx

You will still have the benefit of learning how circuits work and also not dying or being severely injured.

Oh true, dang. I thought the section listed as 6.3VAC was the listed voltage for the tubes and so it wouldn't get much higher than that. Clearly I should've looked further into it! I'll look into the MOSFET version. I don't really want to zap myself. I know to do what I want I'll need to deal with power amps and transformer eventually but to start I'll stick with low voltage bits. Thanks for the suggestion.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Has anyone seen these new Marshall Origin amp line?
https://marshall.com/marshall-amps/products/amps/origin

I always dug the Vintage Modern line since I saw a Paul Gilbert rig rundown, but they're thin on the ground here and getting rarer.

It looks like these do that and the classic Plexi to 800 thing, which I loving love. Plus add power scaling and an FX loop? gently caress yeah. Not to mention Thomann is telling me just under AU$900 to my door for the 50W head.

I mean, I don't have $900, but if I did! Opinions from folks?

Unrelated segue: What's the deal with Hiwatts? I don't mean the history, I know the company was sold and now you have Reeves and Hitone, etc. I really, really love the sound of a cranked Custom. However for either a vintage one or a newer legit replica (See Reeves) I'm looking at like $3k. I don't really care where it's made (if it's made well) or who owns it or if it's PCB or what the gently caress ever.

The closest I've seen is the Hiwatt (new) Tube Series or Hi Gain series. But finding decent demos is hard and finding a retailer here is loving impossible. Am I really just hosed to find a non multi thousand version of a Custom 50/100?

I blame AmpliTube. My dream combination for guitar tone is a cranked Hiwatt layered for rhythm and a cranked JCM800 for lead. They match each other so drat well.

Last unrelated note, are those retro SS amps of any interest? I see posts like the one above about those small (or large!) old school tube amps and get giddy, cause some of those sound phenomenal. If I ever catch one local for a good price (and is in working condition) I would probably grab one. Are any of the non tube ones worth a poo poo though?

Thanks y'all.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Quick question that I think I know the answer to. My friend was jamming on my amp (Vox Night Train 50H G1) and all was sweet. Then after we took a break, came back and it was rather muddy. On a hunch I bypassed the FX Loop (it has a button for it) and immediately the high end came back.

Plugging his entire board in line to the front of the amp (so same pedals and cables, no loop) still gets a signal with all the high end.

So my question is I believe the amp has a tube FX Loop. Would this be indicative that I may need tubes replaced soon? I've been running the same tubes for about five years. Thanks.

Edit: crap, so I just read that it's apparently an IC loop. Any other suggestions for the sudden muddiness of the loop?

syntaxfunction fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Jul 4, 2018

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
Alright y'all, I'm losing my poo poo. I have five amps. Three of them have zero issues. I have two footswitches, and Orange single and a Vox VFS2A double. Both work with those three amps.

The last two (my new old Ashton and my Hiwatt) however have issues. If I plug either footswitch in they will set themselves to a channel and not change. LEDs work fine. No switching happens. However, if I swap the footswitch for a tap tempo it works all of a sudden. It will change channels, modes, reverb, etc, but only for as long as the switch is held (cause it's momentary). But the other footswitches seem to work fine with all the other amps.

Any ideas? I first thought the jacks were faulty, but the tap tempo works perfectly. Then I thought the footswitches were faulty but they work 100% in everything else. I'm kind of lost. I'd rather not give up and take it to a tech over something that's probably basic as poo poo.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Pokey Araya posted:

Check the manual, the hiwatt and ashton jacks are probably the opposite polarity from your other amps, and thus why the switches are backwards, if that makes any sense.

Haha oh if it were only that simple. I can find the schematics fine but as far as a manual goes? Good luck. I've been searching for a week. The Hiwatt was made by the old management, so they don't have a manual available on their site. The Ashton seems to have been completely disowned.

Either way, emailing support for either was useless. I'm just going to a local music place Monday and they're gonna help plug in various types of switches. Hopefully we'll find a match.

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I have an addiction. I have another amo, a Peavey Triumph 60 head from the 80s. I don't know poo poo about it except it was Peavey's answer to the Mark series.

It needs tubing (low/sporadic volume output and general fizz on all channels) but I'm keen to give it some love.

Anyone know anything about these things?

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
No rhyme or reason for this except I like my amps. If anyone wants a rundown on any let me know!



I am in negotiation to add a Dual Rec to the group so that'll be cool I think!

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syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010

Kvlt! posted:

Hah same, as soon as I heard Gibson buying Mesa I ran to the music shop to put the Boogie they had on hold.

Which Vox is that on the left?

Haha I don't particularly mind that Gibson bought Mesa, I just always wanted a Dual Rec, and one popped up local for a good price, so I figured gently caress it.

And the left Vox is a Night Train 50 (first gen). Phenomenal amp. My first big girl amp and still one of my favourites. Brilliant chimey cleans, and brain melting overdrive. Thick mode is decent, but clean and drive are mindblowingly good.

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