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Whether your agency will accept that for a hardship transfer is going to depend on their internal rules. Each agency handles them a bit differently. With a psych eval in hand, though, you could look into making a reasonable accommodation request.
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Josh Lyman posted:For something like the PTO where they're hiring multiple people, will they wait until the application period closes before considering applicants? I ask because I'm flying for an on-site with a different agency next week and I'd like to be able to compare offers. It varies by agency.
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sparkmaster posted:That's odd, in my agency everyone shoots for 3/Average. The way the employee performance measures are written it's rare to get a 4 and getting a 5 pretty much means you saved a drowning baby. It took a 4.8 to get a bonus in my position last year. I have a 4.7 this year and am desperately hoping it's enough.
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Hackan Slash posted:I've actually seen a supervisor say this to an ex-contractor who was converted after doing the same job for 8 years. They were pissed. Just in case anyone is wondering, this would be a proper time to file a grievance with the union. My first govt job was like this. For the first two years there wasn't any real differentiation. I think we were all 3s the first year and jumped to 3.4 the second. That scoring system was fairly consistent nationwide, though, so I ended up qualifying for bonuses even with the relatively low scores. If I recall correctly, in year 3 the ratings started to diverge. The real concern was getting the "exceeds expectations" checkbox, since that made it substantially easier to transfer into other positions. My current position definitely suffers from rating inflation. It also suffers from being in a job series that covers way too many different positions (2210).
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Justus posted:God yeah. If you don't hate math, engineering is the way to go for government. They can't get enough engineers or it specialists, and I had no problem getting a job as a computer engineer with only a bachelors degree. I'm doing pretty well off of getting an associates in CS after having obtained a worthless BA. Get 24 hours of IT coursework and start applying.
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Oct 28, 2016 06:31
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laxbro posted:I've considered doing this, but I'm about to become a 12 in a completely non-IT field. Would I have to drop back down to a 9 if I got an Comp Sci Associates and wanted to do IT? I have a level 2 COR certifiation which I think could help me get in at a higher grade. I dropped down from a 9 to a 5 to make the move (although based on skills and competency I should have retained my 9, but that's a different issue). I was placed on pay retention, so my pay did not change. As e_wraith mentioned, there are lots of IT positions that don't require software development experience. I chose the path I did specifically because I wanted to write software.
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e_wraith posted:Ouch, sorry to hear that, though I am sure it will work out well long term. Good for you being willing to take the jump. A programmer position at GS-5, though, you are working for the wrong agency! I hope it is developmental and you will be moving up quickly at least. I have to assume it must be, I have never heard of a programmer FPG GS-5. It is a developer position. If it hadn't have turned up I was ready to leave the government. And ta, I'm the only GS-5 I've ever heard of too. It was handled wrong, in part bc they didn't trust somebody transferring in from another part of the agency and who didn't have an IT background. I hated my previous position and was happy to get out, but I should have fought harder for a higher starting grade. Even a 7 would have made a difference. I did nothing that first year. Not figuratively. Literally. Because a GS-5 programmer is not expected to be able to tie his own shoes, let alone write code. I think I attended 1 2-week training class, and maybe updated 1-2 pieces of documentation. Other than that, I read technical books on my own and wasted time on the internet. I still got a very good eval. I got off of pay retention after 1 year, so that wasn't a major issue. The 999b salary table for IT helped there. I am now a GS-11 and will be auto promoted to 12 next year. I'm also with an agency where 13 and 14 positions are realistically attainable. My group of 10 developers has 2 14s, 3 13s, 4 12s, and me at 11. None of those are management positions -- our manager is not on the GS scale. So ya, the first few years in the new position were rough. But I'm finally in a really good place and happy with it overall, and have a god chance of ending up even better off.
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Oct 29, 2016 06:57
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Man_of_Teflon posted:Basically you have to steal from the agency or commit major PII misuse. Threatening to physically harm your direct supervisor works too, although that apparently comes with 90 days of paid and being "allowed" to resign.
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Oct 31, 2016 06:36
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Man_of_Teflon posted:let's see how long my agency lasts now! I'm glad I'm not the only one dreading this.
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Nov 9, 2016 15:46
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Which is just further proof that the hiring freeze has nothing to do with reducing spending. Contractors are ridiculously expensive.
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Nov 16, 2016 04:16
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If they mess with loan forgiveness I'm out. For everything else it just depends. Thankfully, I'm a software dev in a state with a healthy tech industry.
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Nov 22, 2016 02:51
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Thesaurus posted:The references to ending "automatic pay raises": I wonder if they mean grades w/career ladders, steps, or across the board raises? No one really knows what it means. The step increases aren't even automatic. You have to have a Fully Successful rating to qualify for it. I want to keep working for the government, and I hope that most of this is ultimately bluster, and that there is significant lash back in the midterm elections. But that doesn't change that feeling I get in the pit of my stomach every time I read the news.
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Nov 22, 2016 04:32
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The IRS is still going ahead with their IT pathways internships. "Expected" start date of Feb 2017. The number of unknowns with a hiring like that are huge right now. But the actual hire is before Trump is sworn in, so maybe it's okay. I'm having my bro in law, who graduates in April, apply. The worst that happens is it falls through and he still has 2 months to find a job.
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Nov 23, 2016 04:24
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So my agency is going ahead with their plans to hire 800 IT Specialists during the next year. But instead of saying that we need those people to cover our backlog, etc., the execs are now talking about needing the bandwidth to cover security issues related to foreign governments attempting to hack our systems. I'd say they've read the current political climate pretty well.
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Dec 10, 2016 01:27
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Josh Lyman posted:I had a WebEx interview with the Patent and Trademark Office. Sounds like they'll be making decisions in mid-January for an early February start. There's a few patent examiners that hang out in the lawyer and law school thread. They might be worth talking to. I know one makes bonus every quarter and it comes out to pretty good money, especially once you can work from home.
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Thesaurus posted:Promote Accountability and Government Efficiency Act At-will employment would be extremely difficult to implement because federal employees have a constitutional property right in their jobs. That right has long been recognized by the Supreme Court, and it means that taking that job away is subject to due process. That process alone runs contrary to the idea of being able to fire an employee for no reason. If they can get the Supreme Court to go along with changing that right, then all bets are off. But I have my doubts that it would happen with the current court, even after Trump appoints a new justice.
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Anniversary posted:*shudders* Hell, I've been in for 6 years and I have a backup plan.
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Delorence Fickle posted:drat, does this affect grade/step increases too? According to the text, no. https://twitter.com/EricM_Katz/status/823651322440384514/photo/1 Unilaterally killing grade/step increases might be beyond the president's authority. I'd have to read into it more, but I'm pretty sure that it would require congressional action. In other words, give it a week or two, and they'll get around to it.
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I think I need to figure out how to get a cyber security cert. I could probably ride that to at least GS-14.
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Thesaurus posted:Just fretting here The day after the election I updated my resume and started putting out feelers, just in case. At least an RIF requires 60 days notice, unless, of course, they cut that regulation as well.
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Drewski posted:Navy is stepping in line with OMB clarifications, so it looks like I get to keep my new job after all. By the skin of my teeth! Nice!
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Dr. Quarex posted:I find it fascinating that literally no job seems to use the "Telework" option on USAJobs, though, given that of the 10,000+ jobs currently available, 0 are listed as Teleworkable. The IRS won't let you telework at all for the first year, and I imagine other agencies have similar rules. It may explain why the telework option isn't used on job listings.
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Josh Lyman posted:Yeah but what about doughnut days and happy hours and office romances? I work in IT, so none of this applies.
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jiffypop45 posted:However I agree. Most IT types are introverted lone wolves which precludes the previous two. So I understand this is an exception. It took over a year before I could get anybody on my team to go to lunch.
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Our telework agreement stipulates that you can only attach a single monitor to your laptop using a VGA connection. It's, um, uniformly ignored by everybody.
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Dr. Quarex posted:On one hand, I would be as scared to get into air traffic control as a fed now as I was about the EPA interview I had back right after the current administration was elected. On the other hand, the Senate is completely ignoring Trump's privatization plan, and the house is substantially short on votes to pass it. Also Trump signed that plan a while ago, and almost certainly lacks the attention span to ever go back to it again. I could be wrong, but training as an ATC is probably safe for now.
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I haven't worn a tie since my first day. Wearing it then was a mistake.
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When I was working in tax compliance I had to meet with people, and I'd typically wear a polo and khakis. Even on days when I wasn't meeting with people, I'd wear a polo and jeans because people would always drop in to give me documents, and I felt like representing the government in a t-shirt was going a little far. I wore a polo and khakis on my first day in my IT position. My manager was taking me around to meet the team, and one of them was wearing stained sweat pants. It took a while to adjust to wearing shorts to work. Felt weird at first.
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Thesaurus posted:Since agencies don't list all jobs uniformly, it's hard to know these things. The Air Force used to list their computer scientist positions as GS 5/15, with no mention that the journeyman level was GS-12, and getting a 13 basically required an advanced degree. Don't even think about a 14 or 15. I have no clue how it works under the new system they have. I'll have to ask my cousin. I've mentioned before that I took a demotion from GS-09 to GS-05 (with pay retention) when I moved from tax compliance to IT. I got my 12 last month. Getting my 13 is expected to be pretty easy, although our budget situation is so bad that it might take longer than I want. The easiest way to get a GS-14 equivalent position is to move into management... although with the number of people we have reaching retirement age, getting a technical position 14 might be easier when it comes time.
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I can walk around my office and point out who lied on the application. One of the issues is that the hiring managers make no attempt to verify the applicant's answers, either out of laziness or lack of knowledge. I was honest on my app for IT and got lucky. I'll have to lie through my teeth when it's time to apply for 13s next year.
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My building got the portraits quickly. I started using the back entrance to avoid seeing them. Then we moved buildings, and I have no idea where the photos went. I'm not gonna look for them, either.
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Biden' portrait was magical. The guy looked so happy. It honestly helped my mood every day I saw it.
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Ask to talk to an HR rep about it. Promotions have a whole slew of weird rules.
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Woo extra $1207 per year. It ain't much, but it helps.
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I'm down to 1 day a week in the office, as is most of my team. It's really nice.
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The shutdown in 2013 happened while I was trying to buy a house. That sucked pretty hard. This time around I've got pretty substantial savings and a HELOC that can float me for a long time.
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Josh Lyman posted:Suggestions for negotiating starting salary step? My tentative offer said GS-11 step 1. My friends who work for different agencies suggested asking for the step that's just below GS-12 step 1. However, GS-11 step 7 is $97 above while step 6 is $2171 lower, so I feel like I should just ask for 7. Are you on a career ladder that will promote you to GS-12 after your year is up?
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Josh Lyman posted:The posting says GS-11/12 with promotion potential to 13. I don't recall any mention of promotion to 12 after 1 year because we didn't discuss salary at all during the interviews, but my friends at DOT and EPA seem to assume that would happen. Ya, that's an 11/12 ladder. So what you can negotiate might be affected by the 2 step rule. Basically, when you get a grade promotion, they take your current step, add 2 steps to it, and pay you the lowest amount in the new grade that exceeds that amount. Anything above GS-11 step 4 would result in you getting at least a GS-12 step 2 when you get your ladder promotion after a year. It may be hard to negotiate something above that. On the other hand, if you could get step 4, that's an extra $6k in your first year. Midge the Jet posted:If the promotion potential is 13, that is what your ladder is and you should move from 11 to 12 in one year, then 12 to 13 the year after that (as long as your performance is good). Not necessarily. For example, compliance officers in the IRS have "promotional potential" to GS-11, but there are a limited number of 11 positions, and you have to apply and compete for them when they become open. TheMadMilkman fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Feb 9, 2018 |
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laxbro posted:I am currently a GS12, and applied to an internal position listed as a GS9 with a FPL of 12. Will they have the ability to offer me a lateral position as a 12, or is it locked in at a 9? I don't know the answer per se, but when I took a transfer from GS-9 to GS-5 I did get pay retention. I couldn't have afforded to accept the job otherwise. Took 4 years, but I got my 12 last year. It's nice.
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Josh Lyman posted:I started my new position on Monday. It was a GS 11/12 but HR crap meant I’m 11 step 1 even though I should be eligible for 12 based on prior experience. Does this mean I can’t apply for a 12-15 position? If so, do I need to wait 1 year to apply or can I apply after like 8-10 months with the intent to start after 12 months at GS 11? HR drones will deny the app if you don’t have a full year at 11 on the day you apply. You can still apply to any external 12-15 job listings, though.
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