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I encourage anyone to attempt to get do an advanced search on USAJobs, then Search by Job Series. Type in 1811. 1811 Criminal Investigator jobs are the best job in the federal government. USAJobs is a good place to look, but also check agency websites regularly for hiring news.
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prussian advisor posted:Can you be more specific about this? I imagine that 1811 type jobs would vary really widely based on the agency. It's the Criminal Investigation series. Job duties vary by agency. It's DEA, ATF, Secret Service, US Marshals, FBI, ICE, NCIS, AFOSI, and all other federal "detective" agencies. The scope of investigations will vary but the pay is the same (Journeyman 13 which is at least $100,000, depending on locality, at step 1), retirement is 25 years at any age or 20 years at age 50, and the pension accrues more than non-law enforcement employees. Must not have reached your 37th birthday before hire. Opportunities for private corporate/consulting jobs post-retirement abound.
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prussian advisor posted:Do you work in one of these jobs? If so, how did you wind up working there? Most of the people I knew who were federal law enforcement agents were former state or local police. From what I know it really just takes you meeting the minimum requirements (bachelor's degree) and applying everywhere. 1811 hiring is really random in nature as far as qualifications above minimum.
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The Department of Health and Human Services, Office of the Inspector General is hiring 1811 agents en masse. It's on USAJobs (series search 1811 or agency search HHS). G-ride, gun, badge, etc, GS-13 journeyman + LEAP (25% on top of your base pay in exchange for you working 50 hour weeks). Doesn't hurt to throw in your app. Looks like Secret Service is also open, probably gearing up for 2012 season.
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For jobs considered Law Enforcement, which are covered under "6c" or "12d" retirement laws, YES, the mandatory retirement age is currently 57. You must not have reached your 37th birthday prior to starting one of these jobs. This covers Bureau of Prisons, U.S. Marshals, Border Patrol, Secret Service, FBI, ATF, IRS Criminal Investigations Division, Offices of Inspector General, etc, etc, etc.....
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Homie S posted:Just remember that prior military or federal service is excluded from his rule. This is not true. Military time and regular federal service does NOT stop the clock on 6c/12c jobs. From USAJOBS: • Individuals selected for Criminal Investigator positions are covered under special law enforcement provisions. This requires that applicants not exceed the maximum age for entry. The date immediately preceding an applicant's 37th birthday is the final date for selection. The age restriction does not apply, providing the appropriate documentation is submitted, if: A. You served in a Federal civilian (not military) law enforcement officer (FLEO) position covered by special civil service retirement provisions, including early or mandatory retirement, and after subtracting these covered time periods (years/months) of prior Federal service worked in a primary law enforcement position, you are less than 37 years of age. The maximum entry age limit was established in accordance with 5 U.S.C. § 3307 and does not violate age discrimination laws. The intent of the maximum age limitation is to ensure that a Federal law enforcement officer will have the opportunity to work 20 years and therefore be eligible to retire at 57, when mandatory retirement applies to Federal law enforcement officers. OR B. You are a preference-eligible veteran.
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I am really interested in 1811 jobs and know a lot about them, so, without further ado: THE 1811 MEGAPOST! What is 1811? All jobs in the federal government are assigned a number, which corresponds to a title. "1811" jobs are "Criminal Investigator Series." Who cares? Only people who want to make $100k+ in 5 years max, have weekends and federal holidays off, and the best pension in the Fed. What agencies have "series 1811" jobs, and how do the jobs vary by agency? (list is by no means exhaustive) FBI (Special Agent) -Has investigative authority over every federal crime. Is organized into directorates with specific focuses. Over 13,000 active special agents. "Always hiring." DSS (Special Agent) -Diplomatic Security Service. Investigates passport fraud and provides for the protection of foreign dignitaries, I think. Hires rarely. NCIS (Special Agent) -Naval Criminal Investigative Service. Investigates crimes involving the U.S. Navy and Marines, domestic and abroad. Hires rarely. AFOSI -Air Force Office of Special Investigations. Like NCIS, but for the Air Force. Hires rarely. DEA (Special Agent) -Works Title 21 (Drug) cases. Lots of foreign involvement. Tons and tons and tons of money. Lots of undercover work. Just had a hiring announcement, and may be hiring again this fall. DCIS (Special Agent) -Defense Criminal Investigative Service. Deals with contractor fraud, etc. FDA OCI -Food and Drug Administration, Office of Criminal Investigations. Investigates prescription drug industry and FDA matters. I'd imagine there is a decent amount of overlap with the DEA when it comes to prescription narcotics? U.S. Postal Inspection Service (Postal Inspector) -Investigates any crime that as an integral part of the offense involves the United States Postal Service. So, child porn, bombs, anthrax, mail theft, mail fraud, drugs, etc. Big variety. Hires rarely. U.S. Marshals Service (Deputy U.S. Marshal) -Investigative fugitives of the U.S. Courts and state fugitives through district warrant squads and Regional Fugitive Task Forces. Also maintain custody of unsentenced federal prisoners, and runs the Witness Protection Program. A federal Sheriff's Department. Recently tasked with investigating violations of the Adam Walsh Act (sex offenders that have fled across state lines and not registered). Just finished hiring hundreds of Deputies to deal with the Southwest Border prisoner population. ATF (Special Agent) -Guns. Lots of focus on the Southwest border with all the hardware going down to the cartels. ATF has a lot of involvement in Violent Crimes task forces across the country and always seems to be infiltrating an outlaw motorcycle gang. Last hiring announcement, I believe, was early this year/late last year. Not sure when hiring will resume. OIG offices (Special Agents) ((An OIG office is a subdivision of a particular agency that focuses on things like corruption, procurement fraud, waste, and abuse. DHS, NASA, Health and Human Services, Social Security, FDA, Department of Education, and Securities and Exchange Commission are just a few of the 60+ OIG shops)) Someone is usually hiring, but most OIG shops are small, so who you know may be important. ICE (Special Agents) -Illegal aliens and customs imports/exports offenses. Should be hiring a lot of agents for the border this fall. IRS Criminal Investigation Division (Special Agent) -Taxes. I don't remember the last time they hired, but I don't really pay attention. Secret Service (Special Agent) -A lot of people think the Secret Service just does protection. While protection is their primary duty, they do a lot of investigations, as well. They are the primary agency for investigating the counterfeiting of U.S. currency and obligations. They also cover other financial crimes like access device fraud, credit card fraud, and check fraud. Additionally, they work online child porn. Is hiring often, and is probably gearing up for the new campaign season in 2012. Lots and lots of travel, though... Qualifications Moreso than other federal jobs, 1811 hiring is VERY competitive. You will be going up against current and former local and federal cops; people with language skills; people with advanced degrees, including law degrees; etc. However, you can't really predict whether or not you'll be hired, because college kids ARE hired, as well as private sector people looking to make a transition to something different. As long as you meet the minimum requirements (which is almost always: a 4-year degree, being under age 37, being in good health, and having a clean background), APPLY, APPLY, APPLY. Persistence is key. Expect constant rejection. Hiring Process MOST agencies have most of the following steps: 1.) Some sort of written exam. The most common is the "Treasury Enforcement Agent" Exam, which combines academics and investigative skills. Numerous study guides are available for purchase. ARCO sells the most popular one. Check Amazon. It isn't expensive. 2.) An panel interview. 3.) A full-field background investigation. Almost all 1811 jobs use the Standard Form 86: http://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf. Don't omit, don't lie. 4.) A polygraph examination. 5.) A medical examination. Even if you have some health problems, you should be alright. What will happen is that, after you get a once-over by the contract physician, he/she will send paperwork to the hiring agency's medical review board. You'll probably get some paperwork back asking "Tell us more about your knee surgery/high blood pressure/bad eyes/etc etc." This will require you to go to your personal physician at your own expense and have him write something up clearing you for a predefined list of activities. 6.) A physical fitness test. As far as I know, only FBI, DEA and the United States Marshals Service does this. They consist of a run (FBI and USMS 1.5 miles; DEA 2 miles) with a time limit based on your age; pushups and situps with minimums based on your age; and possibly pull-ups. This is easy to pass because it's something you just practice for. Each of the aforementioned agencies have the exact fitness test standards posted to their websites. Benefits All agencies listed above, with the exception of the U.S. Marshals Service, reaches a "journeyman" level of GS-13 (which is about $101,000 for the lowest locality rate). They all start no lower than the GS-5 level (usually GS-7). U.S. Marshals currently reach a journeyman level of GS-12 (about $86,000 at the lowest locality rate). All pays include a 25% "LEAP" pay, which stands for Law Enforcement Availability. This means you're salaried and work 50 hours a week, so you get extra pay automatically. Your journeyman level is what you reach automatically without having to promote. After journeyman, you can promote further by competing. All agencies have opportunities up to SES (Senior Executive Service, which is higher than GS-15 and pays a ton). It takes one year to reach each grade, and one grade is skipped in between, except for 12 to 13. That means, if you start at GS-5, after exactly 1 year you move to GS-7, then after one more year you reach GS-9, then GS-11, then GS-12, then GS-13. So, conceivably, if you start at GS-7, which is not hard to do (having a 3.0 grade point average on your college degree would qualify you, or prior qualifying experience), you would be at GS-13 in exactly 4 years. 1811 jobs, like all federal law enforcement jobs (and federal firefighters), have better pensions than regular federal workers. Your pension accrues at 1.7% for the first 20 years, and then 1 percent thereafter. So, if you work 25 years, that equals 39%. You will be paid for the rest of your life 39% of the average of your highest 3 years salary. So if you made 150,000 your best 3 years, you'd be paid $58500/yr until you die. And, since you have mandatory retirement at age 57, that's pretty good. Training All aforementioned agencies besides the Postal Inspection Service, FBI, and DEA (Postal goes to its own facility in Maryland, and FBI an DEA use Quantico, of course) go to the Criminal Investigator Training Program at FLETC in Glynco, Georgia. It's about 12 weeks of training covering evidence, arrests, the constitution, etc. After this, you'll go to an agency-specific add-on course, either at FLETC or at another location (Secret Service add-on school is in Maryland; IRS, ATF, and U.S. Marshals stay at FLETC; etc.). Some academies are "stress" academies, and some are more academic. I guess just do your best to be in shape and mentally prepared when you get there. Don't get in a fight at a bar or do anything else retarded while in training. Well, not ever, but especially not while in training! More Info I find the Officer.com forums and 911Jobs.com forums are good for people looking to get one of these jobs. They're both filled with people applying to different agencies and have lots of tips and advice. fivetwo fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 18, 2010 |
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MothraAttack posted:How would a Class C misdemeanor for minor in possession of alcohol at age 19 look on applications, so long as you were honest and disclosed everything? Judging by some of the posted decisions I think it would be all right, but I'd just like to hear a second opinion. http://www.dod.gov/dodgc/doha/industrial/ is a great site. It shows security clearance decisions for DOD employees done by DOD adjudicators (which follow the same guidelines as security clearance adjudicators for other agencies). You can see that people get away with some crazy poo poo; it's all about being open and honest, and getting help if necessary. Here are the guidelines used by adjudicators: http://www.tscm.com/access.html One of the primary concerns of an adjudicator is determining how susceptible a person is to blackmail. So, if you have any skeletons in your closet (mental treatment, arrests, weird sexual stuff, shady poo poo, etc), it helps greatly if multiple people in your life know about these things. If they aren't a secret to begin with, a foreign influence can't use them to blackmail you and get you to give up security info. fivetwo fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jul 18, 2010 |
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Please note: there are two facets to your background. SUITABILITY and SECURITY. Just because you pass one doesn't mean you pass the other. That is, you may have smoked pot a few times within the last year, and may be eligible for a security clearance nevertheless. However, certain agencies may still not find you SUITABLE, despite their security office clearing you. Security = can we trust this person with sensitive information? Suitability = does this person's past conduct indicate maturity/integrity/responsibility?
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Gin_Rummy posted:Could you possibly elaborate a bit on what this is/does? I'm going into the Air Force but want to get a federal job afterwards and this sounds like it might be up my alley. Has both active duty and civilian (1811) Special Agent jobs. If you can get into it as active duty (not sure if it's enlisted or officer), it would obviously be much easier to move to the civilian agent job after you separate. From Wiki: Threat detection AFOSI manages offensive and defensive activities to detect, counter and destroy the effectiveness of hostile intelligence services and terrorist groups that target the Air Force. These efforts include investigating the crimes of espionage, terrorism, technology transfer and computer infiltration. This mission aspect also includes providing personal protection to senior Air Force leaders and other officials, as well as supervising an extensive antiterrorism program in geographic areas of heightened terrorist activity. Criminal Investigations The vast majority of AFOSI's investigative activities pertain to felony crimes including murder, robbery, rape, assault, major burglaries, drug use and trafficking, sex offenses, arson, compromise of Air Force test materials, black market activities, and other criminal activities. Economic crime investigations A significant amount of AFOSI investigative resources are assigned to fraud (or economic crime) investigations. These include violations of the public trust involving Air Force contracting matters, appropriated and nonappropriated funds activities, computer systems, pay and allowance matters, environmental matters, acquiring and disposing of Air Force property, and major administrative irregularities. AFOSI uses fraud surveys to determine the existence, location and extent of fraud in Air Force operations or programs. It also provides briefings to base and command-level resource managers to help identify and prevent fraud involving Air Force or DOD resources. An AFOSI Interview. Information Operations The Air Force is now countering a global security threat to our information systems. Our role in support of Information Operations recognizes future threats to the Air Force, and our response to these threats, will occur in cyberspace. AFOSI's support to Information Operations comes in many facets. AFOSI's computer crime investigators provide rapid worldwide response to intrusions into Air Force systems. Technology Protection The desires of potential adversaries to acquire or mimic the technological advances of the U.S. Air Force have heightened the need to protect critical Air Force technologies and collateral data. The AFOSI Research and Technology Protection Program provides focused, comprehensive counterintelligence and core mission investigative services to safeguard Air Force technologies, programs, critical program information, personnel and facilities. Specialized Services AFOSI has numerous specialists who are invaluable in the successful resolution of investigations. They include technical specialists, polygraphers, behavioral scientists, computer experts and forensic advisers. Defense Cyber Crime Center AFOSI is the DOD executive agent for both the Defense Computer Forensics Laboratory and the Defense Computer Investigations Training Program, which together comprise the Defense Cyber Crime Center. The forensics laboratory provides counterintelligence, criminal, and fraud computer-evidence processing, analysis, and diagnosis to DOD investigations. The investigations training program provides training in computer investigations and computer forensics to DOD investigators and examiners Check out the AFOSI website at http://www.osi.andrews.af.mil/
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grover posted:Some positions are considered merit promotions, and are only advertised within an agency/department. Others are advertised to the general public. May also be Excepted Service jobs that they're doing through a special hiring authority, rather than traditional Competitive Service positions.
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Synnr posted:I apologize if I missed this somewhere, but my google search results were rather opaque. Won't hurt you, really. Look at the last page of the SF86: http://www.opm.gov/forms/pdf_fill/sf86.pdf This only allows the background investigator to ask the question stated (Is the mental health issue going to cause this person to be a security risk?). Your doctor is going to answer honestly, so hopefully you haven't spent the last 5 years telling him how you have obsessive fantasies about being a Russian spy. And I wouldn't say you were disqualified from law enforcement, but I'm not an authority on it. If you were applying for a law enforcement job that required a medical exam, you would also have the agency's doctors asking for very detailed notes about the treatment, prognosis, etc. Also, if you are currently taking meds, I guess that would be a consideration as far as your response time/cognition. Either way, your personal doctor's opinion is going to be crucial to the way things play out.
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Necronomiconomist posted:Small clearance related question: Lying on your SF-86 is a violation of 18 U.S.C. 1001 (false statements).
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GreenCard78 posted:Regarding the SF 86, I have no idea whether or not the paperwork has me down for a felony or a misdemeanor. Either way, I got probation before conviction (pbj?) for a misdemeanor and ended up not receiving a conviction and the charge dismissed. The crime was a felony (half a pound of weed) but my lawyer had the government prosecutor try us for misdemeanor possession + intent. Judge turned into into probation before judgment and then everything was dropped. It asks, "Have you ever been charged for a FELONY offense?" I'm sure the charge was a felony to begin with. Your lawyer probably negotiated it down, and then it was dismissed as you say.
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Word is that ICE (now HSI) will be hiring for Special Agents in January. They do NOT post openings for agents to USAJobs; you have to keep visiting the website.
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problematique posted:Where exactly (url)? Yeah, check that website there. They open for a few days because there is a deluge of applicants. The 1811 job is the most coveted in the federal government.
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ICE will be hiring Special Agents via USAJobs on January 17th (ish). They have about 600 openings... 99% will be "southwest border" spots (not major cities... think Eagle Pass; Nogales; Douglas; etc.). Word is also that DEA will open applications for Special Agents in January or soon thereafter.
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The U.S. Marshals Service is apparently hiring in June. Probably the best job in federal law enforcement. Judicial protection, witness protection, fugitive investigations, etc. Unfortunately, at their journeyman level (GS-12), they make about 10k/less a year than their DOJ counterparts in ATF, FBI, and DEA.
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psydude posted:Is the TSA a good way to get your foot in the door for other federal investigation agencies? TSA screeners are not part of the law enforcement retirement system, and will not "stop the clock" as far as the age limit for federal law enforcement positions go. TSA air marshals are, of course, law enforcement.
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Zoo posted:To be clear, you mean they don't get LEAP pay, right? Whereas at the the other organizations you do? They get LEAP like everyone else, but their highest pay grade (12) is less than the highest for the other agencies (13). Let's use Phoenix, AZ as an example. A Deputy U.S. Marshal at journeyman level (which takes 4 to 5 years to reach) makes 88k. A FBI/DEA/ATF/Secret Service agent, etc, at journeyman level (again, taking 4 to 5 years to reach) makes about 104k. A large difference. fivetwo fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 4, 2011 |
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Zoo posted:Oh, OK, I had no idea about the highest pay grade thing. That's ridiculous, yeah (IMO), even with LEAP. Oh well. I do see a lot of Marshal jobs on USAJobs right now, too, but I'm a higher pay grade than a -12; and no LEA or Justice experience anyhow, just like to gently caress around with the idea of trying to cross over. DEA has low-balled the friends I've known to try to cross over (we're in DoD as GGs/GG equivalents). One was offered a job, but he's a -13 in DoD and they offered him something like an -11... and it required moving to Des Moines. I don't think that was an 1811 though. Don't get me wrong, Marshals can move up to GS-13, but they have to promote, whereas FBI/DEA/SS/ATF get it as the automatic progression for all agents. Marshals Service deputies assigned to the witness protection program or judicial protection division are journeyman 13, however. Anyways, the 1811 is the greatest job in the world due to the high pay (be it 88k or 104k), M-F work week (generally), government car, law enforcement retirement, etc. etc.
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Kontradaz posted:For a person interested in a post-military 1811 federal career, which branch of the military (would be after college graduation) would be of the greatest help? Since military seems to be such a big boost to federal career seekers, (veteran bonus!), I thought it would be a fairly good idea to do a stint in either the Air Force or Coast Guard for a few years. (Would be an officer position) Doesn't really matter. Go to college and become an officer. Do your best and get an honorable discharge. If you really want to split hairs... anything in foreign languages or intelligence, I would say, would be best...
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psydude posted:Please tell me you aren't considering joining the military to get a job in federal law enforcement. The college - officer path is a great way to get into federal LE...
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grover posted:The last time the government shut down, in 1995, furloughed workers still ended up getting paid, didn't they? I believe so, yes. But you can't furlough a lot of stuff... prisons still have to operate, people still have to be arrested, those people arrested still have to see a judge within 24 hours, etc, etc. a large portion of the gov simply "can't" shut down.
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CherryCola posted:Is there a specific credit union for federal employees? I need to get my finances in order and finally get myself a good credit card. In my experience, credit unions are usually best for that kind of stuff. Justice Federal Credit Union is great if you work for DOJ or DHS.
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For anyone who wants to chase fugitives across rooftops and wear a cowboy hat, the U.S. Marshals Service is accepting 5,000 applications for Deputy on March 5, 2012. fivetwo fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Feb 25, 2012 |
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chuchumeister posted:I thought this would be the best thread to ask -- I'm going through my background check for a Secret clearance right now. I was reading the A/T thread about being an erotica author and almost (all?) those authors write using a pen name. Obviously, for tax purposes, you have to supply your real name to the publishing companies. it's only blackmail material if nobody knows about it. depends on if you're keeping it a secret or not, i guess. paris hilton can't be blackmailed with her sextape since it's public knowledge...
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For anyone looking to be (A)t (T)he (F)rontline against violent crime, the ATF is hiring for 1 day, Feb 28th, on USAJobs. The announcement will be open for 24 hours.
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mune posted:Does it open at 12:00AM EST on the 28th? I live in Pacific so it'd be good to plan for, as I am going to apply for it and want to apply right away. Yes, EST... have your poo poo together on USAJobs ready to go. Word is they're taking only the first 650 apps.
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Primoman posted:I applied for this yesterday. Didn't read on how many vacancies they had, just made sure I met one of their requirements (bachelor's) and applied as fast as I could. You investigate primarily federal firearms violations (felon in possession of a firearm); ATF also probably, I would argue, has the best undercover program in federal LE... they're always infiltrating gangs/motorcycle clubs...
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Primoman posted:Did the Deputy US Marshals position open in USA Jobs? I've been checking since yesterday and the only US Marshals-related job that shows up is Quality Review Specialist. It was open at 1201AM EST March 5, 2012, to be open 5 days, or until 11:59PM EST on the day they received 5,000 applications. They received over 5,000 applications on March 5... understandably... pretty much a dream job...
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grover posted:drat, that's a lot of applicants... I don't think NASA received that many applications for astronaut this year. who wants to be an astronaut when you can be raylan givens?
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