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Detective Thompson posted:

If Tomlin had been flagged for being in the way, how would the call have gone? Meaning, would Tomlin had been directly referenced, either by name or as the HC, or would have been a call against the Steelers in general?

Also, is there a site that talks about how the different hand signals for penalties and the like came about? A lot are pretty clear, referring to motions used by the offending player in the penalty, or a reference to something on the field, like touchdown/FG/PAT signal relating to the goalposts, and the horse-collar signal to the yanking motion on the jersey/pads, but others aren't necessarily as clear, like the rolling fists for false start and hands on the hips for encroachment. I'd be interested in learning origins/meanings for those things.

It would be assessed against the sideline.

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 03:31

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Deteriorata posted:

Nearly every school has an assistant of some stripe do the poll for them. I don't know of any coaches who consider it a productive use of their time on a Sunday.

except for the last poll of the year. Thats when the coaches actually care.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2013 01:08

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Deteriorata posted:

Football plays in any conditions, other than active lightning.

The postponed that game in Philly a few years ago, the one where we had the Joe Webb Experience and the Governor of PA making casually racist remarks about Chinamen, but that was because the stadium was literally packed to the brim with snow and not because of the weather itself.

# ¿ Dec 8, 2013 23:22

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DOOP posted:

Wait, what? I don't remember this at all and I loathe Tom Corbett. Have a link or something?

It was Ed Rendell.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5960674

quote:

"We've become a nation of wusses. The Chinese are kicking our butt in everything," he added. "If this was in China do you think the Chinese would have called off the game? People would have been marching down to the stadium, they would have walked and they would have been doing calculus on the way down."

# ¿ Dec 9, 2013 00:04

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SteelAngel2000 posted:

They only get extra draft picks if they lose more free agents than they sign, it doesn't have anything to do with any specific free agent.

Yes and no. If you lose a player to FA that was really really good but do not sign anybody (drafting doesn't count) who is equally as good, then you get a higher compensatory pick as decided by an NFL committee. From wiki:

quote:

In addition to the 32 selections in each of the seven rounds, a total of 32 compensatory picks are awarded to teams that have lost more or better compensatory free agents than they signed in the previous year.[58] Teams that gain and lose the same number of players but lose higher-valued players than they gain also can be awarded a pick, but only in the seventh round, after the other compensatory picks. Compensatory picks cannot be traded, and the placement of the picks is determined by a proprietary formula based on the player's salary, playing time, and postseason honors with his new team, with salary being the primary factor. So, for example, a team that lost a linebacker who signed for $2.5 million per year in free agency might get a sixth-round compensatory pick, while a team that lost a wide receiver who signed for $5 million per year might receive a fourth-round pick.

All compensatory picks are awarded at the ends of Rounds 3 through 7.

If fewer than 32 such picks are awarded, the remaining picks are awarded in the order in which teams would pick in a hypothetical eighth round of the draft (These are known as "supplemental compensatory selections").

Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2013 20:52

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Declan MacManus posted:

That means more weeks of football and more matchups to push, and that just doesn't make sense to me

I always thought it was weird that some teams would have a bye week in week 4 and others in week 12. By weeks should be between weeks 8 and 12. I understand its hard to do logistically, but you can see the advantage of having a bye week later than earlier.

# ¿ Dec 28, 2013 00:44

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Trin Tragula posted:

Would they still consider like 1st and 20 a standard down, then?

I would. The gameplan is different in a 1st and 20 vs. a 1st and ten. In a 1st and 20 your goal is to get it to something like 2nd and 8 as opposed to making a 2nd and short.

# ¿ Jan 1, 2014 20:36

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Can you have more than one guy call for a fair catch? Like the second the ondide kick happens can everyone just do the arm wave regardless of who its going to?

# ¿ Jan 13, 2014 03:37

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Trin Tragula posted:

My favourite development in onside kicks is that people have realised that it's perfectly legal to tee the ball up pretending you're going to do a normal onside kick, then move it and kick it from somewhere else. I saw one somewhere where they threw the ball across to the other hashmark, and then that guy used a drop-kick to put the ball in play, and Team B had absolutely no clue what the gently caress was happening to them.

OMG I so badly want to see this happen in the Super Bowl or one of the Conference Championship games.

# ¿ Jan 19, 2014 01:53

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Wasn't sure where to put this since my old injury thread is gone and buried but I thought it was interesting and wanted to share it with you guys. One thing that has been bugging me about the whole fencing response posturing is the difference between that and decerberate/decorticate posturing which is pretty severe. I happened to be talking with a neurosurgeon today about football and the topic of concussions came up.

Basically, a fencing response is a temporary decerberate posturing. It's not really defined by so many seconds or minutes, but more of a subjective thing. Like if a player gets hit, postures, but then stops after a second, you can call that a fencing response. And its the moving in and out of the posturing that produces the classic fencing response. In other words, when these guys get hit like that, at that moment they have a GCS of 4.

This has been swickle's useless medical fact of the day.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2014 01:34

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Chichevache posted:

This information is cool and all, but for those of us without PHDs you may want to define terms like decerberate and decorticate. I mean we can, and I did, Google them, but it isn't the same as an actual doctor using it correctly. Good info though.

In the most simple of terms, its when your brain disconnects from the rest of your nervous system. Literally. The posturing depends on what level of the brain the disconnect takes place at. This image best explains what they look like:

# ¿ Feb 2, 2014 03:16

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Sash! posted:

Tennessee and Washington don't have income tax either, but it doesn't seem like the Titans, Seahawks, Cowboys, Texas, Dolphins, Jaguars, and Buccaneers are getting any sort of competitive edge from tax structures. For one, most of those teams have even awful for a long time.

The ability to draw big free agents doesn't really correlate to success in the NFL. Most of the truly successful teams draft well, acquire FA's that aren't cap killers, and have solid coaching staffs. The Pats and Steelers rarely sign big name FA's or at least big contract ones and they are more successful than the Dolphins and the rest of those teams.

# ¿ Feb 16, 2014 01:40

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Deteriorata posted:

I don't think so. I don't think you can advance a turnover in overtime. The team's possession just ends.

Nope, wrongo. You can advance an INT for a score and the game ends. Here is the relevant section:

quote:

Extra Periods

ARTICLE 3. The NCAA tiebreaker system will be used when a game is tied after four periods. NCAA football-playing rules apply, with the following exceptions:

a. Immediately after the conclusion of the fourth quarter, officials will instruct both teams to retire to their respective team areas. The officials will assemble at the 50-yard line and review the tiebreaker procedures.

b. The officials will escort the captains (Rule 3-1-1) to the center of the field for the coin toss. The referee shall toss a coin at midfield in the presence of no more than four field captains from each team and another
game official, first designating the field captain of the visiting team to call the coin toss. The winner of the toss shall choose one of the following options:
1. Offense or defense, with the offense at the opponents 25-yard line to start the first series.
2. Which end of the field shall be used for both series of that overtime period. Note: The winner of the toss may not defer his choice.

c. The loser of the toss shall exercise the remaining option for the first extra period and shall have the first choice of the two options for subsequent even-numbered extra periods.

d. Extra periods: An extra period shall consist of two series with each team putting the ball in play by a snap on or between the inbounds lines on the designated 25-yard line, which becomes the opponent�s 25-yard line. The snap shall be from midway between the inbounds lines on the 25-
yard line, unless a different position on or between the inbounds lines is selected before the ready-for-play signal. After the ready-for-play signal, the ball may be relocated after a charged team timeout, unless preceded by a Team A foul or offsetting penalties.

e. Team series: Each team retains the ball during a series until it scores or fails to make a first down. The ball remains alive after a change of team possession until it is declared dead. However, Team A may not have a first and 10 if it again possesses the ball after a change of team
possession. Team A and B designations are the same as defined in Rule 2-27-1.

EXAMPLES:
1. After each team has put the ball in play by snap at the beginning of its series, the score is tied or there has been no score. RULING: Begin the second extra period with the loser of the toss at the beginning of the first extra period having the choice of the two options.

2. Other than on the try, Team B intercepts a pass or fumble for a touchdown or recovers a fumble or a backward pass and scores a touchdown. RULING: Period and game are ended, and Team B is the winner.

3. During the first series of a period, Team B intercepts a pass or fumble or recovers a fumble or a backward pass and does not score a touchdown. RULING: Team A series is ended and Team B, which becomes Team A, starts its series of that period.

4. During the first series of a period, Team A attempts a field goal and the kick is blocked. Team A recovers the kick, which never was beyond the neutral zone, and runs for a touchdown. RULING: Six points for Team A, and Team B begins its series of the period after the try.

5. Team A attempts a field goal and the kick is blocked. Team A recovers the kick, which never was beyond the neutral zone, and runs for a first down. RULING: Team A�s ball, first and 10.

6. Team A attempts a field goal on first, second or third down, and the kick is blocked. Team A recovers the kick, which never crossed the neutral zone, and does not gain a first down. RULING: Team A�s ball, next down.

7. Team A attempts a field goal and the kick is blocked. Team B recovers the kick and runs it into Team A�s end zone. RULING: Touchdown, game is ended.

8. During the first series of a period, Team B�after gaining possession�loses possession to Team A, which scores a touchdown. RULING: The score counts, and Team B begins its series of the period after the try.

9. During the first series of a period, Team B�after gaining possession�loses possession to Team A, which fails to score a touchdown. RULING: Team A series is ended, and Team B begins its series of that period.

10. During the first series of a period, Team A fumbles into Team B�s end zone on second down of a series. Team B recovers and downs the ball in its end zone. RULING: Team A series of that period is ended. Team B series of the period begins.

11. During the first series of a period, B10 intercepts a forward pass on his three-yard line and downs the ball in his end zone (no momentum involved). RULING: Score two points for Team A. Team A�s series is over. Team B will put the ball in play, first and 10 on the 25-yard
line at the same end of the field.

12. Team A�s field-goal attempt is untouched beyond the neutral zone until it is muffed by B17 at the five-yard line. A75 recovers at the three-yard line. RULING: First down for Team A at the three-yard line.

f. Scoring: The team scoring the greater number of points during the regulation and extra periods shall be declared the winner. There shall be an equal number of series, as defined in (e) above, in each extra period, except if Team B scores during a period other than on the try. Beginning
with the third extra period, teams scoring a touchdown must attempt a two-point try. A one-point try by Team A (although not illegal) will not score a point.

EXAMPLES:
1. On the first possession of a period, Team A scores a touchdown. On the try, Team B intercepts a pass and returns it for a two-point touchdown. RULING: Team B is awarded the ball on the 25-yard line to start its series of the period with the overtime score 6-2.

2. If a touchdown is scored that determines the winning team in an extra period, the try is canceled.

g. Fouls after a change of team possession:
1. Distance penalties by either team are declined by rule in extra periods (Exceptions: Dead-ball fouls and live-ball fouls penalized as dead-ball fouls are enforced on the succeeding play).

2. A score by a team committing a foul during the down is canceled.

3. If there are offsetting fouls, whether one or both occur after Team B possession, the down is not replayed.

EXAMPLES:
1. After the end of the first series of a period by Team A, Team B commits a dead-ball foul. RULING: Team B starts its series on the 40-yard line, first and 10.

2. During the first series of a period, Team A passes and a Team A back is illegally in motion during the down. The pass is intercepted, and Team B commits a foul before scoring a touchdown. RULING: Score not allowed. The series is ended, and Team B begins its series on the 25-yard line.

3. During the second series of a period, Team B intercepts a pass and runs for a touchdown. During the run, Team B clips at midfield. RULING: Nullify the score, and if the score is tied, the next period will start with first and 10 at the 25-yard line.

4. During the first series of an extra period, B37 intercepts a forward pass and has a clear field to the goal line when he makes an obscene gesture toward the nearest opponent. Ruling: Team B�s score is canceled and Team B begins its series on the 40-yard line (Rules 3-
1-3 and 3-1-3-g-1, 2).

h. Timeouts: Each team shall be allowed one timeout for each extra period. Timeouts not used during the regulation periods may not be carried over into the extra period(s). Unused extra-period timeouts may not be carried over to other extra periods. Timeouts between periods shall be charged to the succeeding period.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2014 00:55

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Basil Hayden posted:

Hey, as a related question I'm less sure of the answer to, can a team score both offensively and then subsequently on defense in the same overtime period? If so, has that ever happened?

Yeah, if they are going first they can score, then play defense and intercept or fumble recover for a TD. Not sure if it has happened though. I have seen a team intercept and then just immediately go to the ground in that situation, which is the smarter play.

# ¿ Mar 12, 2014 02:54

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The 23$ is worth it just to go in and write "needs buttfumble exhibit" on the comments cards.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2014 22:32

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It would consist of the Butt Fumble and every Tebow NFL win.

# ¿ Jun 16, 2014 23:27

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skaboomizzy posted:

The Bucs were the first major pro team here and went by Tampa Bay because the city of Tampa itself wasn't a big enough deal to merit "owning" an NFL team, so they went with the regional name.

As the population exploded in the area and they built The Trop in St Pete to lure an existing MLB team but eventually settled for the expansion Devil Rays, it was probably decided by some marketing head that it wouldn't make sense for the MLB team to be named after the weak sister of the Tampa/StPete combo, so they stuck with Tampa Bay.

One of the major newspapers was recently rebranded from the St Petersburg Times to the Tampa Bay Times, as well as the arena in downtown Tampa that shares the name.

So yes, for years the Tampa Bay Lightning played home games at the St Pete Times Forum in Tampa.

Florida is weird.

Eh, its no more weird than the New York teams playing in New Jersey, or any of the large number of city named teams that actually play in some suburb 20 miles outside the city.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2014 22:54

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I wasn't sure where to ask this and thought this was a good place.

When a player is injured at the beginning of the season, or mid-season, what happens with his salary as it relates to the salary cap? Like, to sign another player obviously adds, but do they dock his salary or a portion of his salary when counting against the cap?

# ¿ Sep 5, 2014 00:15

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You will occasionally see swapping from college to pro level as well. Sam Shields is the best known recent example. He played WR at Miami but ended up as a DB in Green Bay.

# ¿ Sep 7, 2014 19:15

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Torabi posted:

Ah, thanks for the info. One other thing I'm trying to learn about is how the season works. Does each win grant the team points that let them move up during the season, eliminating weaker teams, or how does that work? I'm googling about it too but all I can find is that all teams get to play all the other teams in their division. Not how the season progresses over time.

From the OP:

quote:

Each team plays 16 games in the regular season, and they break down like this:

6 divisional games against their 3 divisional opponents, one home and one away each = 3 home games, 3 away games
4 intra-conference games against the teams from a pre-determined division (other than their own) in the same conference, and which division this is rotates every year (eg, AFC South rotates from the AFC West (2010) to the AFC North (2011) to the AFC East (2012) and then back again to the AFC West in 2013), these are split home and away between the four opponents = 2 home games, 2 away games
4 inter-conference games against the teams from a pre-determined division in the other conference, and this also rotates ever year but takes four years to cycle through because you don't have to worry about your own division (eg, AFC South plays NFC East (2010), NFC South (2011), NFC North (2012), NFC West (2013), and back to the NFC East in 2014), these are split home and away between the four opponents = 2 home games, 2 away games
2 intra-conference games against teams finishing the same place in their division - so if you finished 1st in your division, you would play all three of the other division winners but since one of those is already accounted for in the second bullet point, that only leaves two other opponents. These are also split home and away = 1 home game, 1 away game

All that together adds up to 8 home games, and 8 away games. How they determine who is home and who is away is a little trickier, though they tend to basically alternate home/away based on the last time you played those opponents but there is a bit of leeway taken in order to reduce East-to-West Coast (and vice-versa) travel to make sure teams aren't getting worn out from travel during the season.

A team plays all 16 games on its schedule, even if they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. The winner of each division goes to the plays, and in each conference there are an additional 2 wild card slots that go to the teams with the best record, regardless of division. It can lead to some fun things like a 7-9 Seattle team beating an 11(?) win Saints team at home.

# ¿ Sep 7, 2014 21:24

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I don't know why on long field goal attempts teams don't just stick the tallest guy or whoever has the highest vertical reach to try and block it. I mean, I know you have a return guy, but there are some circumstances where you want to commit to the block, like if its a FG to tie the game as time expires. Then a return is worthless, just stick your project 6'8" WR back there to try to block it.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2014 00:19

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Henchman of Santa posted:

Is this post from before the Iron Bowl?

That FG was for the win, not to tie the game up. So putting a guy back to return makes more sense, and it worked out.

# ¿ Sep 23, 2014 02:23

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Its hard to categorize entire divisions, but some do have trends that last a while, but that is usually because of one or two teams becoming very good. For instance, you can summarize the AFC East in two words as Pat's Win. The AFC North is categorized by the Ravens/Steelers rivalry for the past decade. The AFC West is lol Raiders.

One other important point about run vs. pass distinction is the effect on the play clock, especially at the end of the game. The clock will stop running when a player goes out of bounds, or on an incomplete pass. That's why in the two minute drill, you almost always see passing plays. That is also the point of the "prevent defense". You give up the middle of the field for a completion with the goal of tackling the ball carrier in bounds and making the clock run. People complain about that defense a lot because it seems a lot of teams use it and it backfires. Its a perfectly good defense and strategy, its just that teams don't employ it properly, doing so with too much time on the clock, or against a team with a full allotment of time outs. The best way to use the prevent defense is when the offense needs a TD, not a FG to win/tie. They should have at most one timeout, and less than 90 seconds on the game clock, and most importantly a quarterback named something other than Brady, Manning, or Rodgers.

# ¿ Nov 28, 2014 06:22

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Deteriorata posted:

You have to be a little careful, as recruiting rankings aren't completely independent of program. Many players get uprated by being recruited by a major program, or downrated for being passed over. Major programs also tend to win, so the correlation is at least partially artificial.

You also need coaches who can combine talent with skills and teamwork to make a winning team. There are plenty of teams with lots of highly ranked talent that stunk on the field (Michigan, Texas, and others). You also have teams with lower ranked players having great success (Michigan State, Mississippi State, and others).

So recruiting rankings are important, but success on the field comes from many components.

The problem with this is that you are assuming that the ranking sites are better at ranking recruits than the actual colleges. Its the same problem with the NFL, if you think Kiper/McShay are better than the actual team drafting the players, who have far more resources, then you are going to see discrepancies. The sites adjust based on who recruits who because they know that school staffs have more resources, and are likely better than their own meager staff.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2014 10:39

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Gatts posted:

If I make a thread where we create food to match football players, would it be wrong?

What if Mike Vick was a rack of ribs?

# ¿ Jan 5, 2015 06:49

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stubblyhead posted:

I guess what I'm really wondering what the rules are about who can receive the snap. Like if the quarterback is in shotgun, can you snap to a running back right next to him instead?

Yeah, you see it pretty often as far as trick plays go. Also the QB pretends the ball goes over his head at the same time.

# ¿ Jan 5, 2015 20:01

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wheez the roux posted:

I'd be super interested on an effortpost about the interplay between HC/OC/DC and how playcalling works at both NCAA and NFL levels, the responsibilities of the coordinators versus where the HC comes in, how coaching hierarchies work in general, etc etc. that'd be cool. or if anyone knows a good book. yes I've read walsh's book, the PDF version that's around is a pain in the rear end though because the formatting is fubar but there's no goddamn way I'm paying the $100+ it costs for a physical copy. is there any particular reason it's never gotten a reprint

The ting is that it varies greatly from team to team, or rather from coach to coach. For instance, some head coaches do very little in terms of playcalling, but will dictate the overall pace (long dirves by running vs. shorter ones passing, etc.). Sometimes the playcalling is even more specialized than that. In college a lot of times the offensive playcalling is split between two coaches. One will call the running game and the other the passing game. Typically its the OC calling passing and the OL coach running the ground game, with the OC deciding whether to keep it on the ground or throw it. Still, some places the OC alone does everything. Its very different from place to place with lots of people, including the players giving input. The biggest problem is when you have a long line of communication and the QB only gets the actual playcall with a dwindling playclock, who still has to relay it to the offense, survey the defense, make adjustments and actually snap the ball. Its actually pretty amazing when you think about it that all this stuff is conveyed in 40 seconds. That is one of the advantages to the no huddle offense. Its a simplified offense, but each person can identify what they need to do with no communication. The trick is getting everyone on the same page.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2015 12:40

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GaussianCopula posted:

I don't think (at least I don't know) of a book that contrasts the different organizations in the way you describe, so you will probably have to select some organizations about which books have been written. Michael Holley has written two bestsellers on the Patriots, "Patriots Reign" and "War Room" that should give you a good insight into that organization.

Yeah, that level of access is tough to come by for a single team, let alone several. That is probably the biggest single obstacle for a book like that.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2015 15:21

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Aubergine Mage posted:

Wizardry.

And twitter.

# ¿ Feb 2, 2015 05:04

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VisAbsoluta posted:

If the rule to defensive PI changes to 15 yards instead of spot of the fault, what would prevent DBs from comitting it every single time they think a deep pass will be completed?

A 15 yard penalty and automatic 1st down.

# ¿ Feb 27, 2015 20:57

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OperaMouse posted:

If you attempt a field goal at 1st, 2nd or 3rd down and you miss, what happens? Another attempt or a turnover?

Depends. If you actually kick the ball and it goes past the line of scrimmage, then its a turnover. If you run a fake or do anything other than kick the ball (bad snap and cover being the most common) then its treated the same as a play from scrimmage. So, as long as its not a turnover on downs, it stays with the kicking team.

# ¿ May 8, 2015 09:56

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El Seano posted:

Two questions:

1. Could you guys give me some details on other famous footballing families except the Mannings? It always interests me families having multiple successful athletes like Gasol brothers in the NBA.

You should check out the Colquitts. They are a line of punters that have always gone to Tennessee. Some of them even made it to the NFL.

# ¿ Jun 8, 2015 15:04

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Aside from the guaranteed money aspect of it, there is also the shelf life point of view. A rookie contract for a first rounder is 4 years, so for a top tier RB that is half his career or less. RB's hold out more often because they are so replaceable. They should play for their value, and someone like a 2nd or 3rd year Peterson, Bell, or Murray is a worth a lot more than they are paying. As a result, a RB really only gets one contract to make money while other positions get 2 or 3.

# ¿ Jun 9, 2015 06:25

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El Seano posted:

Wow, RBs really play that little time? Outside of the QB which positions typically have the longest runs? I know kickers can play forever and a good QB will hit the 10 year mark quite easily right?

I can see the logic of holdouts a lot more with this in mind. Particularly with somebody like Peterson, playing for rookie scale money is kind of absurd when you're talking that could be half of your money you ever make.

Kicking, punting, and long snapping. Still, even those become replaceable simply because it becomes cheaper to pay a young guy less to do the same job.

# ¿ Jun 10, 2015 02:22

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
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Gus Frerotte gave himself a concussion by headbutting a wall in celebration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdWK-aam0Jo

# ¿ Aug 12, 2015 05:48

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Also, this is college related, but Ted Ginn Jr. returned the opening kick for a TD in the 2006 BCS NCG and then hosed up his foot celebrating, keeping him out of the game. Ohio State probably wouldn't have won anyway, but Troy Smiths statline would have been better than 4/14 35 yards, 1 INT, and one fumble lost. Oh and 5 sacks. Why, yes I am hard right now why do you ask?

# ¿ Aug 12, 2015 05:59

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

v2vian man posted:

He's Kyrie Irving if Kyrie gets rushed back from this kneecap thing and then shreds all his ligaments and then gets rushed back from that and his head falls off

Also the court he plays on is coated with crisco and bear traps.

# ¿ Aug 29, 2015 14:26

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Chichevache posted:

The Pats and??????

Titans

# ¿ Oct 4, 2015 21:24

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

For the new PAT attempts, can the ball be placed anywhere between the hashmarks, or must it be kicked from one of the hashmarks (I assume the kicker can choose based on side dominance).

# ¿ Oct 11, 2015 22:20

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# ¿ May 14, 2024 03:31

swickles: Aug 21, 2006; I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

NBC also streams the game on their website if you can hook a laptop to the tv.

# ¿ Nov 14, 2015 23:00

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