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Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Guzwar posted:

Where can I get that Baron minifig? I've never seen it and the moustache is enchanting.
It's from the Adventurers line, and in my experience is a common and cheap figure on Bricklink. If you can't find an entire miniature, there are plenty of people selling the head for about 20c. (Note: I'm in the UK and only look at UK-based stores. Availability and prices may be different in the US)
(Second note: There are two versions of that head, one with just the moustache, and one with squintier eyes and a goatee. Very useful for having the evil mirror universe version of your character).

Dame Cook fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Jul 18, 2010

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Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself
I've tried quite a few generic brands and apart from one pleasant surprise, found them to be as bad as you'd expect.

Mega Bloks - To be fair, they are getting better all the time. The plastic quality and clutch are improving and they're doing less of the juniorised parts that they used to be notorious for. Still nowhere near Lego quality.

Construblock - Spanish brand. Reasonable plastic quality but clutch is barely adequate and instructions are terrible. They do have some unique parts thanks to employing one of the designers who was involved with Tente. I'm happy enough with the set I got on EBay but wouldn't pay full price for one.

Cogo - aka Little White Dragon from China. All bootleg designs, and pretty poor quality.

Best-Lock - Started off doing a non-compatible look-alike, then partnered with Cobi and switched to Lego metrics. At that point, their stuff was looking pretty good, then they broke up with Cobi and their first choice of factory got hit by an earthquake. Since then they just seem to keep getting worse.

Toyrific - Their sets are either rebranded Cogo, or original designs but made by the same factory as Best-Lock. Stay away.

Click Brick - These are currently UK only, and made in China. However, their quality is 95% of the way to Lego - I don't know how they found a Chinese factory with that kind of quality control, especially as their prices are comparable with other generic brands. Clutch is great, but they do a very limited range of colours and themes.

Never tried Oxford, Enlighten or Kazi as they're not very available in the UK.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Juriko posted:

Lego is old as hell so I would assume their patent has expired.

Exactly. The last patentable change they made to the basic brick design was introducing tubes, and that was in the '60s or early '70s. Some of the more recent part designs have their own specific protection, but Mega Bloks (unlike some of the others) have always been very good about designing their own specialised parts, not just copying Lego's.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Sloppy posted:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2010/08/08/pkg.expressive.legos.cnn?hpt=C2

Is that Shupp's train station at 39s in?


Maybe they make their own specialized pieces, but they are a parasite on Lego's success. Otherwise they'd succeed making their own system of brick sizes instead of needing to make pieces that fit with Lego so they can sell them to grandmothers who don't know better.

Tente tried that and were quite successful for a while, so were the original non-compatible Best-Lock designs. But having them all compatible is better for consumers, really, especially now that Lego's quality is slipping. Do you also campaign against interoperability between software? Don't forget that Lego's patent was based on a stolen design in the first place.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Sloppy posted:

It's not better for the consumers when I have to spend two hours picking Mega Bloks out of every goddamn Lego pile I buy :argh:
I must admit I've never had that problem. The only time I've got Mega Bloks is when I've bought a job lot of specifically Mega Bloks, or one that was advertised as mixed.

quote:

And the software comparison is a non sequitur for a variety of reasons.
I admit I was being a bit facetious, but it's not a total stretch. I want to get some stuff in a theme Lego will never do (military, for example), but I still want to incorporate my existing Lego parts. In the software world, people are all about allowing that as long as the competitor is large enough to be worth supporting.

quote:

I would like to read more about the stolen design though; do you have a link?
Here's the link: http://www.hilarypagetoys.com/history.php?his_id=5. Note that this is a biased source, but Lego did admit to using the design without originally paying for it. Also, the talk of legal action in this article is seriously out of date; Lego later lost a court case against Mega Bloks which clarified that their basic brick and plate designs were no longer patented: http://boingboing.net/2005/11/17/judge-to-lego-your-p.html. They do, however, quite rightly go after anyone who uses their name or other trademarks, or companies who clone their set designs, although the latter tend to be Chinese and pretty untouchable.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Zonko_T.M. posted:

Is that a hollow single stud? AT LAST!?
Yes, but only in white as far as I know. There are two of them as the spider's eyes in the Monster 4 game. I really want one in black to use as a lens on a minifig camera.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

SubbyMinx posted:

For those UK lego fans out there - My local Entertainer got their delivery of S2 yesterday. They've numbered them all, so it's easy to pick out which ones you want.
Good for them. They were quite happy with S1 to help people find what they wanted - they had their own copy of the barcode list - so I guess this time they've decided to save the cashiers some effort.

The Vampire and Witch have supposedly been removed because The Entertainer's owner is quite religious and doesn't believe children should have certain things as toys. I wasn't in a rush for either of these figs, but it may prove to be a problem if they remove the rumoured Mummy from S3.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

BrainWeasel posted:

Man, I really want some of those parts in the minifig collections to make it to general production. I can't find the minifigs locally and I don't want to pay collectors' prices on Bricklink/Ebay.

As Shuppiluliumas says, Lego are adamant that they won't use any of the parts for regular sets. However, the parts which are similar to existing ones are all new moulds for the collectibles, so they might go the other way and produce regular moulds similar to some of the collectible parts.

Meanwhile, 'collector's prices' aren't too bad if you get in quick before anything actually becomes scarce. I got all the parts I wanted - the Pharoah's headdress and staff, two of the Judoka's trophies and the Explorer's torso - from someone on Bricklink who had obviously bought a box. Total price, £4, the equivalent of two complete figures. Not bad considering I'd have had to buy a minimum of three to get all the parts I wanted.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Carbohydrates posted:

On a related note, when I went looking for that pic, I found more 2011 catalog scans. Looks like Adventurers is back (under a new name but it totally looks like Adventurers to me)!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54191445@N03/


Okay, I really need a job. I've been collecting old Adventurers stuff off EBay but almost everything in that new line looks like a must-have.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Shuppiluliumas posted:

Not merely ninjas, NINJAGO!

The most interesting thing for me are those weird spinning? platforms the ninjas sit on. I wonder if they're like tops or something.

They're gaming bases of some kind. The ninjago minifigs all come with stat cards to make them into a collectible fighting game.

What I wasn't expecting was the larger sets in the same theme, I thought it would be more of a spinoff of the collectible minifigs rather than a full theme.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Indolent Bastard posted:

The sculpted goblin heads look odd when compared to the standard logo head with painted expression and hair (or hat) on top.
They do. And it's not like all the sculpted heads look odd - some of the Star Wars and Space Police ones work fine - but the goblins, Dobby and Yoda all look wrong. Something to do with being so wide, when the Lego minifigs are already proportionally wide, I think.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Flavor Bear posted:

Wow, that is a parts goldmine. I'm even tempted to get it, and I loathe anything Harry Potter. I bet its price will be through the roof, though.

$150 or £132 for 2,025 pieces and 11 minifigures. Surprisingly good for a licensed set.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Saint Sputnik posted:

Here's a question: am I crazy or did they used to make Hello Kitty Lego or simulated Lego-like product?

I think it was Oxford who had the Hello Kitty licence. They're a pretty good quality Korean clone brand, and a lot of the unique elements that you see from clones like Best-Lock were actually designed by Oxford.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself
I think all the cloth elements are large figure capes, e.g. the black shorts are two capes from the Technic Darth Vader. I'm not so sure about the furry brown bits but I'm sure I've seen them before in a Lego context.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself
In other news, the founder of Bricklink has died at the age of 33.

http://www.bricklink.com/danjezek/

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Shuppiluliumas posted:

Where's you find the pics?

They're on the Toys'R'Us website. They have several new city sets, none of which are shown as shipping yet, but although they're supposed to be 2011 sets it looks as though they might be released for Christmas.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Indolent Bastard posted:

Series 3 have no bar codes correct?
That's what we've been told. Which does actually make it the first series that I'll buy as intended.

Series 1 - bought the two I really wanted with the help of the barcodes and co-operative shop assistants.

Series 2 - bought all the parts I wanted from a Bricklink seller who had them for reasonable prices. Luckily I was one of the few people who wasn't really interested in the Spartan.

Series 3 - there are very few here that I'd be disappointed to get, so I'm probably going to buy a couple of lots blind and then pick up anything I'm missing from Bricklink, assuming the same seller buys a box or two again.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Evek posted:

Edit:Just looked at the Eurobricks photos. Is Ninjago some sort of card game/heroclix thing too?
It seems to be more like a Bakugan/Battle Strikers thing. The minifigs go on the top, you spin the top and try to knock your opponent off (that's why the skellies have different arms and feet, so they can hold weapons outstretched and have the same stability as normal minifigs). The cards are apparently special moves which you can play against your opponent, such as having to give up one weapon for a round or play with their eyes closed.

It is cool that they're doing the full range of normal sets as well as the tops, though. I'll definitely get the little impulse with one Ninja and one skeleton, as it also seems to have a good range of weapons included.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Apparently not, since this is the second time he's listed it and no-one's made an offer.

$20 per pound doesn't strike me as a great bargain for a bulk lot, though I guess if the storage is included that makes a difference. I'm sure if he'd split it out into more manageable lots he would have sold it.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Pyroclastic posted:

These things aren't due out until January, and it generally takes a good month after they're seen in Europe before they start showing up in the Pacific Northwest.
Wouldn't surprise me. Although they're saying January, I'm 100% certain we'll get them in Europe for Christmas, and I've already been keeping an eye out for the box on the counter of relevant shops.

The photos certainly seem to be legit, if they were pre-release photos I'd expect to have seen them on another site.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

okkie posted:

So, what's the mark up on series one minifigs? I just was in the toy store looking for a present for my little nephew and they had a nearly full series one box on the counter.
Depends on the figure, but the interest in series one is waning. Most of them are on Bricklink at less than original price for just the figure, or slightly above original price for the full pack.

A couple of the series twos are still fetching a good price, obviously the Spartan in particular.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

RKOMG! posted:

The little mummies-with-Horus-heads-and-loving-falcon-wings are seriously awesome.

AA is for Quitters posted:

that little biplane is pretty loving sweet.

Yeah, the biplane set looks like a must-have. Plus the motorbike set for the scarab shields and Khopesh swords, and the impulse for the best character. Add in a couple of the small Ninjago sets for the new accessories, and a few S3 minifigures, and this Christmas/New Year is going to be the most I've spent on new LEGO for a while.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Yoshimo posted:

So what's the modern day equivalent of this bad boy?

The current version is the King's Castle:

http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=7946-1

with more than twice as many parts, and the same number of figures. However, I would probably go with Prison Tower Rescue:

http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=7947-1

It's a bit more affordable and the Dragon Knights have a much cooler colour scheme than the Royal Knights.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Shuppiluliumas posted:

Plus, I can see in the "items for sale" whether a part exists in a color that was never in any sets.

Be careful with that. Often it's just that the part was available in an obscure colour and sellers have mis-classified it as a different obscure colour.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Fooley posted:

Apparently if you buy minifig magnets, they're glued to the base:

Is it me, or is this video the epitome of impotent nerd rage? I can understand buying them thinking you can use them, but they're magnets. They aren't toys.

It's not so much buying them thinking you can use them, so much as previously, you could use them - these are the first ones to be glued. People used to buy the magnet packs to get certain minifigures without having to buy $100 sets. But Lucasfilm pulled their weight to say that the magnets had to be unusable as action figures (nominally because Hasbro has the exclusive licence to action figures, but really because Lucasfilm would rather people bought the $100 sets). As a result, in order to be 'fair', Lego have started gluing all of them.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Muppetjedi posted:

Wait...

Pirates of the Caribbean?
Yes, LEGO got the POTC licence (Disney, remember?) and those are actually the first pictures I've seen of the sets.

Alien Conquest, on the other hand, I'd heard nothing about. They really do have the feel of Classic Space, and I also notice that the Earth vehicles are slightly futuristic vehicles with modern-day weapons, which really pushes their 'no guns' rule.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Flavor Bear posted:

How is the pilot supposed to see where he is going? It's just a solid wall in front of the cockpit.
It is a bad piece of design. I've seen a minor conversion where the centre part of the upper wing was replaced with a plain 4x4 plate, and the struts for the wings were also raised by 1 plate. This leaves the area in fromt of the windscreen clear without changing the proportions too much.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Shuppiluliumas posted:

People like to build with Maersk Blue, because it's really a great color.
How much is there to actually distinguish it from other LEGO blues? Every picture I've seen makes it look similar to either Medium Blue or Sand Blue, so I can't see any model which couldn't get away with using one of those instead.

Back before LEGO expanded their colour palette, and it was the only alternative to standard blue, I can understand its popularity, quite apart from the rarity. These days, not so much.


Schisser posted:

In other news, some dude on the toysnbricks.com forums posted a picture of nine minifigures of the upcoming series 5.
Oh dear. I limited myself to the Elf from series 3 so that I can afford to buy a box of series 4. Now it looks like I need to start saving for a box when series 5 comes out as well.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Shuppiluliumas posted:

Yeah, like I said above, they're ~5/8 Lego size, so they're not really 'in system' but they can be integrated in a few specific cases.

e: A 1x1 Modulex brick is also a cube, as I think you can see from these images, rather than the 4:5 ratio of Lego bricks.
These were the two changes made to specifically appeal to architects. The scale was chosen to be a closer match to typical architectural models, and the 4:5 width to height ratio was pretty useless to architects compared with a 1:1 ratio. I believe they were working on feedback from actual architects who had attempted to use normal Lego, so they had reason to believe there was a market.

I'm not sure what Modulex had in the way of plates, but I would guess they were half-height rather than third-height for similar reasons.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

VaultAggie posted:

I just bought a handful of series 4 at a Lego store and I received two ice skaters. How the hell are you supposed to put the ice skaters dress on her? It's really awkward and the pictures doesn't help much. :(

Middle hole on one leg from the side, both end holes on the other leg from front and back, which should create the two 90 degree angles that make it wrap around. Like the vampire cloak, it takes a bit of practice to get it without wrinkles.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Christo posted:

Speaking of, I've been trying to think up some sort of 1"x1" base that would allow a minifig to stand at its center but everything I've tried so far either doesn't work of is flimsy as hell.
I just use a 2x2 round plate with the figure on the back two studs. It's smaller than 1" but it does the job, and I have them in plenty of colours to distinguish different factions.

If you want to do it properly, I believe Brickarms make proper 1" wargaming bases with two studs on top, but they're quite expensive for what they are.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

SynthOrange posted:

Yeesh, yeah those blister packs arent my favourite thing to come out of Ninjago.

The blister packs have been around a lot longer than that. The design is different, but the figure packs have always been clear plastic.

The Chinese-made stuff is mostly up to the quality of the rest these days, but the problem is the way they're packaged with the weapons. If they sit on the shelf too long, all those hands will have lost their grip by the time they're opened.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Red posted:

Huh. I would've thought hollow heads would be cheaper.
Less plastic, but a more complicated mould due to the trifoil. Maybe they get too many miscasts with the hollow studs, or maybe the mould needed replacing and they took the opportunity to redesign it.

They couldn't go back to the old style because some of the accessories (eg the guitarist's Mohawk from the series 4 figures) use the recess. So a solid, recessed stud makes sense.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Saint Sputnik posted:

I'm still developing some simple rules along the same concept, only with regular minifigs.
I'm sure a lot of people are. I already use minifigs for D&D characters, though I'm a bit short of suitable models for monsters.

I'm thinking of something along the lines of Heroquest or Warhammer Quest with Lego rooms and corridors in place of the card sections. Make walls just one or two plates high (except in feature rooms) so the majority can be stored flat, then I can just build a room whenever I think of something and leave them assembled.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Saint Sputnik posted:

Should I go class-based for characters? It might be a bit hard to standardize that from theme to theme, so I was taking a starting-weapons-determine-class approach.

I'm going with character cards that are basically archetypes - Barbarian, Wizard, Elf and so on. Each has a starting weapon, a range of weapon types they can use, and two simple special abilities. I'm not tying the special abilities to the weapons the way Heroica does, though magic weapons might add an extra special ability.

The 'character sheet' is a more complex version of the Heroica one - a plate with 1x1 round plates (or cones, really depends what I have enough of) to mark wounds, and jumper plates on which to store treasure.

If I were planning on a range of themes, I might make the weapon categories and special abilities more generic, but the format isn't too tied to the fantasy theme. If you can find a way to get hold of it, you might want to look at the original version of the Talisman board game, which started off as fantasy but then added expansions with different themes without breaking the system.

Dame Cook fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Jun 5, 2011

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Saint Sputnik posted:

So, character classes that could be applied to any theme - not like a Blacktron Elf, but more along the lines of weapon restrictions.
*Only a magic user can equip wands and staves
*Only a big weapons expert can use muskets and laser cannons
*Only a swordsman can duel-wield sabers or katanas
etc.
Alternatively, no restriction, but someone adept gets a damage bonus.
Along those lines, yes. In my case, dual-wield would be one of the Elf's special abilities, and the ability to use any weapon would be one of the Fighter's. Other special abilities include Teleport for the wizard (move straight to any previously-explored section) and Invisibility for the Ninja (enter a new section to check it out without provoking combat).

Very few of the abilities would affect the actual mechanics of combat, the idea is to keep that as basic as possible.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Saint Sputnik posted:

(Might go back and get myself a set or two since they have little tactical vests for the minifigs)
Those are probably the most usable parts in Best-Lock sets, since there's no real Lego equivalent and they fit proper minifigs.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

The_Doctor posted:

The one downside which I found out half way through.. there's MegaBlocks in there. Gah. Luckily, it seems to only be black pieces, but it means I'm now checking it all more carefully while sorting now. And I'll have to go through the black bin now to make sure. It really is crappy stuff, isn't it? I'm putting it all together as a mass to make sure I don't lose any, but it seems to have trouble fitting to itself.
Yeah, I have quite a collection of off-brand bricks, and the only ones I regularly throw out are Mega Bloks and Best Lock. Mega Bloks have supposedly got much better over the last couple of years, with better fit and a plastic that's a lot closer to the LEGO formula, but anything you get second hand is going to be the old stuff.

Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

Captain Invictus posted:

Be careful what you wish for.

At least those had close-to-LEGO plastic quality and tolerance. I have quite a lot of BTR parts in my 'odd stuff' box and have no problem mixing them in on a model.

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Dame Cook
Aug 6, 2006

by I Ozma Myself

renraku posted:

I'd be happier if it was Marvel. DC kind of sucks.
Just as well it's both, then.

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