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Cross posted from the LF thread.A.S.H. posted:Here's an interesting local article from back in May.
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brizna posted:Very good news out of MA about MJ smoke not being enough to search a car anymore.
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Apr 21, 2011 19:20
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Thank you for keeping the torch lit Goro. I have been meaning to keep tabs on news about the Machine in Alaska, I will do some searching when I return home from vacation with family. Out of curiosity what do you all think would have happened if they tried to get a warrant to search my vehicle and turned up nothing as it did with their unnecessary search?
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Apr 22, 2011 02:34
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This might not be the appropriate thread but I just had a loving nightmare. I was trying to navigate around two cop cars with their bubbles flashing in the process of an arrest. The snow was heavy and it was very difficult to get around. Long story short two officers out right say it's the end of the month, and they are bringing me in for throwing tantrums. I woke up before it got any further, but I don't know if I have felt so simultaneously angry and scared at the same time over a dream. My roommate called me stupid the other day because I have a knee jerk fear reaction to the police, citing that people who need help must be glad to have the police show up. I imagine the learned reaction of anyone who has actually been jailed or imprisoned is much stronger. Vivid Edit: I cannot forget the loving smiles the officers had, as I asked what I was being arrested for, and one answered "I don't know", making it clear they would think up something later. Son of Emhak fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 22, 2011 |
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Apr 22, 2011 18:09
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Are officers trained to treat any individual as a potential perp? Are they looking to arrest people who call them because they might be attention whores? It seems like the perfect example of an Orwellian nightmare, where innocence is guilt. So many people I know like to talk about all the nice, sweet cops they know. I am sure any fat, well fed pig is kind enough, until they get a chance to feed their gun toting notches.
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Apr 24, 2011 01:45
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HidingFromGoro posted:Don't want to derail but here's some more stuff about prison- gently caress me, just when I thought Alaska had its poo poo together because Goro hadn't found anything to talk about.
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May 7, 2011 03:29
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HidingFromGoro posted:There are a ton of offenses in AK involving or related to crystal, which I assume is due to many folks working long hours in the oil/gas industry or trucking. And for some reason there are also a lot of offenses involving kiddie porn, but why that is I have no idea. I've seen studies and papers which claim AK has a higher incidence of sex offenders per capita than other states, but after a computer crash I don't have sources and also I don't see why or if that would be the case. The sex offense statistics probably grounded in what you mentioned before, drug abuse, this also includes alcohol. However part of it is also cultural. Tribes, and tribalism, aren't exactly known for gender equality, or reasonable sexual education. It gets even worse when you consider the dominance of religion this far out, which is like the opposite of sexual education. I've heard some really bad rumors that clergy who have histories of sexual abuse are swept off to Alaska, where they think isolation will prevent another relapse in their behavior. The worst parts are when I hear stories about women being abducted right off the streets, some of them managing to escape with their hands and wrists bound, bags over their heads. I take issue with 'dry' villages. Do people honestly think that prohibition curtails alcohol abuse? All it does is create a black market incentive for trafficking in either rotgut booze, or bringing it in from the cities. Then you create more criminals and a legislated need for more prisons to house them. Don't get me started on the dumb poo poo people do to get high when they can't obtain alcohol.
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May 7, 2011 05:27
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I always thought the presumption was that if you were arrested and convicted for a crime, and served your time, that your supposed debt was paid. Double jeopardy says you can't be convicted and sentenced for the same crime more than once, but the way sentencing can be determined based on previous arrests seems to throw that whole idea out the loving window, in the name of being 'tough on crime'.
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Oct 18, 2011 02:42
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I wanted to post in this thread because an old roommate of mine who is in the Alaskan Corrections System is trying to reconnect with people outside, so I thought I could share his story. My friend is a person who has a lot of mental health issues, and when I last saw him, we had to boot him from our apartment because his behavior was going to put us at risk of losing our lease. I've been able to speak to him over the phone for the past week or so, because he is in Anchorage on medical evaluation and his calls in town are free. He'll be leaving to go back to the maximum security correctional facility sometime this week, so I'm planning to visit him tomorrow. Speaking to him over the phone he has sounded more rational and clear minded than I have ever heard him in the time knowing him. I can only hope that he has made it through the system these last few years with the minimum number of horrific incidences that prison is notorious for. The worst thing I've heard from him so far is having to walk outside to the pharmaceutical dispensary in the cold and risking busting your rear end on the ice.
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Dec 13, 2011 05:28
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I believe this has been discussed before in this thread, the nature of criminal registers for public record, the only kind I know of being for sex offenders. The other day we had a woman with her daughter leave where I work because she recognized one of my co-workers as someone who was on the offender registry. My morbid curiosity eventually brought me to use what my tax dollars are paying for, but frankly, I don't feel any better after confirming what I was told. I feel bad for my co-worker, I feel as though he is being subjected to cruel and unusual punishment, where his personal information, photograph, and place of work are there for anyone to see. Why don't we have offender registries for other types of criminals, like con artists? I'd very much like to know people who have committed perjury or otherwise have been found of being criminal dishonest or abusing peoples trust in other manners, but we don't apply these conditions to those convicted. This is why I think the sex offender registry is cruel and unusual, it's specifically targeting a minority of criminal and basically wholesale destroying their privacy after they have served their sentence.
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Jan 28, 2012 00:00
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Orbis Tertius posted:As a somewhat related aside, I think the Venture Brothers cartoon is noteworthy for having a "reformed" (through super science) pedophile as a main character in the 4th season. Pretty sure the show is unique in that respect. Yes and then they stick Sgt. Hatred with two young boys who clearly remember him doing inappropriate things in previous encounters, or at least Hank remembers. Although the scene where Dean is being his support, trying to talk Hatred out of giving into his urges through the bedroom door, is pretty hilarious and heartwarming in the same breath. This actually speaks a lot for how we address these problems. Hatred simply has the symptoms treated, those being his inappropriate desires towards minors, without addressing the underlying source. Since the source of the problem hasn't been treated, as soon as the symptoms return it's very easy to roll back into old habits. I think this is a big part of recidivism. I thought back the other day to how much alienation affected my behavior in public school, when considering what my co-worker has to go through. It made me feel like a piece of poo poo when people wanted nothing to do with me, and it eroded how much I actually cared about things like academic success. Instead I kept seeking ways to express the toxic emotions that were building up, experimenting with drugs, and getting into theater & drama, as well as philosophy. Where there was an absence of peer companionship, I superimposed this warped view that would probably sum up in the cliche 'gently caress this Earth'. The point I'm getting to is really repeating what HidingfromGoro has stated before, only love will defeat this machine. So if you know someone who is in the system, or who has come out of it recently and is reintegrating, give them your love and support, give them the time, write a letter or make a phone call, or pay them a visit.
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Jan 28, 2012 23:19
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The problem there, though, is that in the case of police and I'm going to assume correction officers as well, there are two problems. First is that "good cops" can be forced out of the force by "bad cops." As in, if a good cop reports a bad cop for literally murdering somebody, drumming up fake chargers, or skimming drugs and money off of things acquired on raids, a force that is corrupt from top to bottom WILL get rid of the guy. Second is the social side of things. People are tribal creatures. I don't care how much you say others don't affect you, they do. Your peer group does, to at least some degree, affect your actions. A good cop can become a bad cop over time. So, if all of the jail guards are abusive assholes, a new jail guard is highly likely to be influenced to become an abusive rear end in a top hat. Third is the simple fact that authority differences have an incredible tendency to turn people into monsters. There's been experiments that have proven that. Fourth is also the simple fact that most people will follow the orders of their superiors, even if that means brutalizing people that don't deserve it. Yeah the argument of joining violent institutions to make a difference sounds like joining the mafia with the intent of reducing mob violence. Nobody does that, they just don't fill the ranks. The same could be said of the military, I don't think anyone in the anti-war camp volunteers for the armed forces, because participation is practically sanctioning the activities carried out in the organization.
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Aug 31, 2012 23:52
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dethkon posted:I was just detained (handcuffed) and released without arrest for the third time in my short life. This time the officer found me asleep behind the wheel with the engine running in a fast food parking lot. I had pulled over because I couldn't drive anymore, and passed out for several hours. I consented to a search of my car and bag (I was too disoriented to remember that I had tons of illegal stuff on me) and was cuffed and led to sit in the back of the patrol car. I can say I'm pretty sure being 'a nice white boy' has saved my bacon at least twice. The first time was in the high school days, the cop had us Dead to Rights, but all he did was say 'I'm going back to my car and when I get back I don't want to see any drugs or paraphernalia', so the guy in the back seat put the stuff in a bag of Cheetoes, and we got off with a warning. The cops exact words were 'If I wasn't already on my way somewhere I'd gently caress with you guys.' The second time I was pulled over for speeding, having just smoked a blunt with my friend who has serious degenerative arthritis and recent back surgery. When the cop rolled up to the window you could see his eyes light up thinking they had a huge bust from the smell. Joke was on them, what they smelled had all been smoked away. They tore up my car while we both stood outside in the cold, all they found was the weird gifts I had gotten from my friends at my birthday party I had just left. Got off with just the speeding ticket cause they couldn't find poo poo, but it seemed as soon as they realized they got all hard up chasing a dead lead they were like 'aww how cruel of us to suspect these innocent young men of being heinous traffickers with intent to sell, give them the ticket and let 'em go'. It really feels like the cops demeanor towards you as a possible suspect is relative to the clout the bust will give them, and that's just hosed up.
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My proxy experience with the parole system. I've been working at Wendy's for a year and a half now, one of my co-workers was an offender who committed his crime about ten years ago. He was forced to quit by some terms of his parole officer, and now he shows up at the store to keep in touch, and when I ask him how looking for other work is, he mentions how the question comes up 'Why did you leave your previous job?' when in interviews. This seems incredibly hosed up to me. This man already had a job, but just because his PO decided he 'needs to move on', now he is out of work in a cutthroat job market, having to tell potential employers, 'Well my parole officer said so.' This seems like a deliberate move to sabotage his job prospects, and it pisses me off to no end.
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May 16, 2013 08:37
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I have not pried into the details, it's not something I feel comfortable pushing someone talk about. Apparently it was supposed to kick in earlier, but he was able to forestall it until the middle of March.
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May 16, 2013 13:19
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As he has reported it, his crime was that he was 22 and he hooked up with a 15 year old girl, that was 10 years ago. I've said this before but some woman with her young daughter completely flipped out when she saw him one time in the store on a day when he wasn't scheduled, apparently she was a watch dog who scans the Sex Offender registries. Suffice to say, I really want to tell that lady, 'He's paid for his mistake, I don't think he wants to hurt your daughter.'. Of course that's just how we label people for their crimes, it's like living on Koholint Island in Link's Awakening. You steal one stupid shovel and you're THIEF for life.
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May 17, 2013 09:48
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I feel it's kind of sad to see this thread gain so much activity over the last twelve hours or so and all of it radiates from feeding a troll.
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Aug 27, 2013 20:18
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Ever since HidingfromGoro went into well, hiding, this thread has been lacking in accounts from people who have been inside the machine. I think everyone reading this thread would be grateful and benefit from what you can share.
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I'm not looking for anything specific, I'm not a researcher nor is this my field of expertise. It just helps put things in perspective to hear people's stories. I've never even been in jail much less prison, the closest I've ever been with police have been for minor traffic stops. Appreciate you're willing to do the leg work though.
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