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Just finished reading this the other day. I enjoyed it while I was reading it, but it wasn't until I finished it that I realized that it was pretty loving awesome. The wait for the next part's going to be horrible. On the Voidbringers:On the surface there's no reason to doubt Jasnah's conclusions right now. But I'm skeptical if only for the fact that I know Brandon has to have a lot more curveballs up his sleeve. For the secret of the Voidbringers to be revealed so early, it can't stick. I also have no doubt that they're not as evil as they seem. Dalinar and Kaladin repeatedly mention how they respect the Parshendi.
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2010 07:00 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 12:03 |
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Something that I've been wondering, in Dalinar's last Stormdream we find out that all his visions have been "pre-recorded" so to speak. Yet, when he seems to be able to interact with people back in time. So is only the voice of the Almighty prerecorded? Is Dalinar actually traveling through time somehow? Something doesn't add up.
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# ¿ Oct 14, 2010 21:40 |
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Streebs posted:What are the Parshendi? Saying they are voidbringers seems wrong to me. Who is the Almighty from Dalinar's visions? What is Odium and what are these "rules" he has to play by? What are the spren, why do they not appear in Shin and why are they constrained when humans measure them? What is the deal with the heralds? Where did they go between desolations and where did they go after they left? Why did the Radiants abandon humankind? Where do the storms come from and why do they grant things/people power? What is up with the safe hand thing? Why are people with bright eyes nobility? Hoid said at the end that there was a good reason for it. And speaking of Hoid, I hope he has a central role to the storyline and we get some answers on him, although I doubt this will happen. Just from what I've been able to glean myself online and in the book. Not sure what the Parshendi are. They seem human-like except in the ways they're not (skin, armor growing, hive mind?) If Brandon Sanderson's previous stories are any indication, there's probably something to do with one of the magical systems that make them that way. I'm pretty sure the Almighty was one of the Shards, god-like beings that pop up in other Sanderson fantasy books. They tie his stories together in a shared universe. Odium is probably another one. I think the Radiants either found out the truth of the Voidbringers or got fed up with mankind's warring ways. But that's just my guess. The storms are definitely the source of magic on Roshar, which means they're caused/set in motion by a Shard. And I think Spren don't show up in Shin precisely because Shin doesn't get storms. They're blocked by a mountain range. The safehands I interpreted as just something cultural. Like how in some Muslim cultures, women are supposed to cover up their hair. As for the bright eyes thing, I took it as saying it was as good an excuse as any other humans invent to rule over other humans. And yeah, Hoid's a mystery. Apparently, Brandon's said he's saving Hoid's story for his own book. Some people have speculated that he travels from planet to planet through Shadesmar which is supposed to be connected to all the worlds in Brandon's books.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2010 20:20 |
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Oh right. Forgot about that part. Well, another mystery onto the pile. Also, does anyone else feel like whatever mysteries that have been set up so far could probably be solved in one or two more books? The fact that there are NINE more probably means Sanderson's holding a lot out on us.
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# ¿ Oct 19, 2010 07:19 |
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Dalinar's Shardplate: Dalinar's giving his own Shardplate to Renarin. Which means, when Szeth comes to kill Dalinar, he won't have a Shardblade or Plate anymore.
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# ¿ Oct 20, 2010 09:52 |
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I had that problem too while I was reading it. It was about 60 or 70 percent of the way through that I got fully invested in the characters. I was always slightly annoyed when he would change charcter POVs, but the chapters would be interesting enough that I'd be involved again pretty quickly. I 'only' liked the book as I was reading it. It wasn't until I finished it that I realized I'd read a great book and loved it.
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# ¿ Jan 29, 2011 02:29 |
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Last few posters, I know what you mean. Sanderson seems chill enough though. I'm just hoping he doesn't go OSC on us some day.
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# ¿ Mar 5, 2011 05:46 |
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404GoonNotFound posted:Lost... or stolen? From what I recall posted on other forums, the thing was indeed stolen.
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# ¿ Apr 30, 2011 03:24 |
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Looking forward to the last book being all avalanche start to finish.
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# ¿ Aug 9, 2011 23:25 |
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This is the first time Shadesmar has appeared or been mentioned if I recall. The best part of reading Sanderson books is how each of the different series work differently and are independent enough to feel like they're completely separate. If I hadn't come online and seen people talk about it I wouldn't have known. Then you can go back and start recognizing pieces of connectivity between them and it's like whoa.
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# ¿ Dec 13, 2011 00:53 |
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But... The kandra took Kelsier's bones didn't he?
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# ¿ Apr 3, 2012 03:19 |
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veekie posted:A spear would be Steel or Iron right? Would only carry one allomantic power then, and given that its Kelsier it's probably Steel or Iron burning ability. Weren't weapons on the Mistborn world made of wood?
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2012 02:16 |
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Kruller posted:The Sword of Truth starts out okay, except for that character being introduced early in the first book, disappearing for like 300 pages, and then being fully and completely reintroduced in the same loving book for no reason. Then it turns into lesbian leather bondage fantasy stuff, then rape fantasy, and gets worse. Don't forget the Ayn Rand style moral objectivism!
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2012 07:08 |
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That probably means he's halfway done with it or something.
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# ¿ May 21, 2012 23:22 |
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Just finished Legion. That was loving cool. It reminded me of the old pulp heroes like Doc Savage or The Shadow. Eccentric millionaire heroes with a group of assistant specialists. Albeit, updated and modernized. It's impressive how Sanderson becomes a noticeably better writer with each story. Legion was even genuinely, unironically funny.
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# ¿ Sep 14, 2012 07:19 |
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Not very is pretty much right. Hoid is (more likely than not) referenced but not named. And, there's a mention of one of the empires that played a part in Elantris. Those are the only real references off the top of my head. Rather happy to see a fantasy story take place in an asian inspired setting for once. Also, was totally making Bruce Lee noises in my head during one part.
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# ¿ Nov 13, 2012 00:55 |
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It's like clockwork with him, planes, and new books.
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2013 05:23 |
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404GoonNotFound posted:Wait, what's all this then? It's his 'bad people get superpowers and regular people have to team up to kill them' book.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2013 23:20 |
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Recommendation? No recommendation? Was this the one where he was inspired by pro Starcraft?
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# ¿ May 14, 2013 12:00 |
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Shelled out for Rithmatist because, hey, I'm not reading anything else at the moment. Not that far into it yet, but yeah, this is the pro-Starcraft one, haha. Sanderson, you are a super-nerd among nerds.
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# ¿ May 19, 2013 09:51 |
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Cicero posted:I love Starcraft so now I am seriously considering buying this. It's all the references to fantasy Korea that sealed it for me.
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# ¿ May 21, 2013 01:09 |
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The Rithmatist Earth could be smaller.
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# ¿ Jun 4, 2013 03:58 |
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I like that the impetus for Steelheart basically starts from the same place as a Louis C.K. bit.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2013 01:25 |
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Jesus Christ, that's 17 books in planning or some stage of development/writing.
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# ¿ Jul 25, 2013 00:34 |
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coffeetable posted:Even better: the capstone Cosmere series will be called Dragonsteel. Sanderson's master's thesis was called Dragonsteel, and is archived in the library at Brigham Young University. It has since been stolen from the library of BYU.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2013 01:53 |
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404GoonNotFound posted:Recognitionmancy? He could probably make it work. The more famous your are the more power you have?
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2013 02:14 |
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Democratic Pirate posted:I need to go back and do a reread of at least the ending, because I'm still a little confused about the Megan = Firefight connection. From what it looks like she isn't even bad, but she was working with Steelheart the whole time? According to what we see with Prof, an Epic using their powers causes them to become more hateful, power mad, and evil. Megan being forced to not use her powers while infiltrating the Reckoners let the evil wear off and become more of a normal person. Presumably she was using her powers a lot while being Firefight. In addition, she resurrects herself somehow if she dies, and the aftereffects of resurrection leaves her mental state in chaos for a while.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2013 08:13 |
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Aren't Eragon and it's sequels supposed to be kinda bad?
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2013 11:47 |
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Speaking of Atium, is there any of it even left after Hero of Ages?
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# ¿ Oct 30, 2013 07:00 |
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Velius posted:On that note, why didn't Amaram just grab the Honorblade and pretend-radiant with it? If he's part of some weird secret society venerating the Heralds, and he's willing to pretend to be a radiant for Dalinar (which was totally random), why not go all the way? I don't think anyone even knew Honorblades gave radiant powers except the Shin? Or that Taln had an Honorblade instead of a regular Shardblade?
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2014 14:02 |
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Nin isn't concerned with justice, he's concerned with judgement. Bit of a difference.
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# ¿ Mar 9, 2014 23:10 |
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Wolpertinger posted:Adolin better not become evil. Sometimes a tiny bit of pragmatism is a good thing, instead of letting a guy who has gotten countless people killed out of ambition and no sign that he wouldn't do it again in a heartbeat run around as literally one of the most powerful men in their nation because ~honor~. What if the king really was a 100% putrid useless rear end in a top hat that would ruin everything and doom the world instead of redeemable as he turned out to be - deposing him may have been the right thing to do, despite all the hand-wringing by Syl. Somebody needs to be around that isn't magically bound to do the honorable thing without being a bad guy. You would kill so many spren.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2014 10:19 |
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Walh Hara posted:It should be noted that we don't know what broke Shallan since she already attracted Pattern and started surgebinding before any of her flashbacks took place. I would have thought having her own mother try to kill her would have done that.
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2014 22:39 |
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:Wait... There is a link between Mistborn and Stormlight? There's a link between everything. Almost.
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# ¿ Mar 11, 2014 22:41 |
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So, Dalinar gets tension and adhesion... I could see those being useful.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2014 01:56 |
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Have we gotten hints on who's the ultimate bad guy in the Cosmere? Ruin was Mistborn's bad guy. Odium is Stormlight's. I imagine the fabled Dragonsteel is going to have an enemy so powerful they'll need a veritable Justice League of the Cosmere.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2014 05:34 |
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Wolpertinger posted:I dunno - Odium MIGHT be the one, but I doubt he's going to be the final big bad - but who knows? He's traveled to several worlds, and murdered several gods, which as far as I know makes him unique - and it's implied that he was a psychopath even before he became a god, so he could fit! From the chapter headers I got the impression that the other shards(?) have Odium trapped on Roshar and are willing to write the world off as long as he remains imprisoned. It's my thinking Odium will get taken care of within the span of Stormlight Archive and the ultimate evil will eventually be taken care of in Dragonsteel.
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# ¿ Mar 12, 2014 05:53 |
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Dravs posted:Cosmere stuff I'm pretty sure the magical lakes are shardpools. Shards have solid, liquid, and gaseous forms which are their bodies, minds, and souls respectively. We've seen magical pools in previous Sanderson books like the pool in Elantris where Elantrians go to die and the Well of Ascension in Mistborn.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 13:05 |
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subx posted:There was a question about Dragonsteel and how it relates to the cosmere stuff at the book signing I went too, and he said it's not going to be the series that ties it all together. I think he said it's pre-shattering, but I am not sure exactly which shattering he was referring too. (Presumably Honor shattering, but it would almost have to be) Could be pre-shattering of Adonalsium, the original god that all Shards are... shards of.
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# ¿ Mar 24, 2014 21:09 |
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# ¿ May 3, 2024 12:03 |
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Tunicate posted:Out of universe chronology. I should have clarified that. Warbreaker was written as a prequel to the already-established character of vasher in WoK Prime I'm still a little confused Is Warbreaker set before or after WoR? If it's before, where's Vivienna?
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2014 01:34 |