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CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Mordiceius posted:

Correct, but that hadn't happened yet. Kaladin has not been bequeathed any shards at that time. There was no guarantee he was going to be given shards. There was no agreement for shards. Obviously Dalinar/Adolin would offer him shards after his effort, but they hadn't yet. At the moment of his challenge demand, he was still a Dark Eyes of whatever Nahn.

You can, however, make the strong argument that Kaladin, who has defeated a Shardbearer and stripped him of his Shards right there, has triggered the laws that make any darkeye who does that into a Shardbearer and therefore legally a lighteyes of high rank, and those laws take effect immediately, whereas the conditions of the duel don't take effect until the duel's end. So for the intervening period, Kaladin was a Shardbearer, which means he became a lighteyes, which means he is still a lighteyes, and whether or not he actually possesses any Shards right now doesn't enter into it.

Is that all legal hair-splitting resulting in a vaguely nonsense result? Sure it is, but who cares? It gives Elhokar cover to treat Kaladin's challenge as legitimate, which is all that's needed in that instant. A darkeyes challenging a Shardbearer and winning Shards in a duel has, guaranteed, never happened before, which means they're in unprecedented waters and Elhokar, as king, has pretty wide latitude to interpret it in whatever way is most favorable to him. And he fuckin' doesn't.

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 07:28

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

A Sneaker Broker posted:

I finished Warbreaker...

4/5 Enjoyable story. Good world/universe building.

Wish it explained how Nightblood ended up in Roshar. Oh well.

I assume some other characters will also appear in Stormlight. (I think Azure is one of them since she's looking for Nightblood.)

This book has many twists and turns, which makes it very enjoyable to read.

"The easiest way to hide something is by hiding it in plain sight" - Vasher probably.

We�d all like to know that second one. As for the third, if you either re-read or go back and think about it, it�s very, very obvious. You�re already on the right path.

# ¿ Apr 11, 2024 05:30

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Potato Salad posted:

I'm rereading Stormlight.

oh yeah, Shallan has that portrait of Taravangian

So that's a thing

Why is that a thing? She lost it in the ship waterizing itself, anyway.

# ¿ Apr 12, 2024 00:45

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

A Sneaker Broker posted:

RoW- Chapter 11

Is�is Venli a hidden bondsmith? Because if so, ain�t no way..

No. Timbre is a Reacher.

# ¿ Apr 13, 2024 01:06

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Mordiceius posted:

Currently how I understand it:
- The term Voidbringers seems somewhat interchangeable with Fused. Sure, the Listeners/Parshendi/Parshmen make up the Voidbringer army, but they aren't themselves Voidbringers. The Fused are the real Voidbringers.
- Storm Form = Fused? Was Eshonai a Fused when she took Storm Form?
- The Fused respawn when they "die." Cognitive Shadows? The "spren" that turn into Fused are ancient Listener souls?
- The Fused souls can get trapped - somewhere - Damnation? I think the Arcanum Unbounded referred to this as another planet in the system?
- But the Fused souls only get trapped their if there is a Herald to be tortured? Or something?
- When all the Fused are trapped in Damnation, all the Heralds have to "die" to go to Damnation to get tortured?
- As soon as a Herald breaks from torture, a Desolation begins.

What I'm confused about :
- If none of the Heralds have "died" and are in Torture Realm, how did they keep the Fused from respawning?
- How do the Heralds/Fused get teleported to Torture Realm?
- Why do the Heralds have to stay in Torture Realm getting tortured?
- Why did the ancient listener souls become spren that can respawn?

The Recreance - I'm very curious about this. The Stormfather was adamant about keeping the reasoning secret. Thanks to my friend that likes to overshare, though I haven't learned it in the books yet, I'm aware that humans are not native to Roshar. I'm curious if that has to do with why the Radiants abandoned their Oaths. Basically they found out they're essentially colonizers and went "gently caress that."

Random thought - What ever happened to Thude and the Listeners that escaped Eshonai? Will Rlain get to meet them?

Some of that stuff you're supposed to be confused about, some of it you're supposed to know but I'm not sure when you learn it so I won't answer yet. I think it's safe to clarify two things, though: "Voidbringer" is a very broad, generic term that's got thousands of years of history-turned-to-myth-turned-to-religion behind it. Before the books started, to an average Rosharan, it meant "demons that the Heralds fought in the Before Times". Characters are currently using it as sort of a catch-all for "Odium's army"; it's inexact by nature.

Stormform is not Fused.

And those are some very good questions you're asking.

# ¿ Apr 15, 2024 23:23

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

^^^^ tag your own quoting of it, then!

Potato Salad posted:

I feel like Renarin has to be slow rolled a little bit because, just from the surface, truthwatchers do some absolutely incredibly crazy poo poo

Full Stormlight spoilers: Do we actually know what the gently caress un-corrupted Truthwatchers actually do? Besides regular Lightweaver-style illusions?

# ¿ Apr 15, 2024 23:52

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

A Sneaker Broker posted:

I'm not even close to finishing RoW, but It sure does feel like Brandon is gearing up for a multi-dimensional, multi-front, full-on Cosmere war.

That's because he is. Emberdark first chapter/Sunlit Man spoiler: Bit of a shame that it's gonna be Roshar vs. Scadrial, too.

# ¿ Apr 16, 2024 00:11

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Ojjeorago posted:

Get really high and join the 17th Shard forums or discord to find out (dumb Stormlight future theory I don't personally subscribe to) no one physically interacts with the Davar brothers on screen because they're all illusions and "Shallan" has actually been Chana lightweaving her way through a breakdown about killing her daughter this whole time.

That one is stupid for at least half a dozen reasons

# ¿ Apr 16, 2024 06:08

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Oh hey it's not 1 am in the morning any more, longer post

Torrannor posted:

(Stormlight spoilers through Oathbringer) There probably was never a Desolation where none of the Heralds died.

We know for a fact that there wasn't. The Heralds react to only Taln dying by treating it as unimaginable luck; they'd never done so well before as to have only one Herald die.

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Well. I'm on the ground floor now that I've caught up. Where do I go to go deeper?

Okay, full immersion on the (Stormlight through SA5 prologue) Shallan is Chana's daughter theory:

WoB that Chana has appeared on screen at least once and at least one of our characters has met her.
Shallan's mother goes conspicuously nameless despite the rest of her family being named.
Chana has been established as having red hair.
When the Heralds got their official portraits drawn, there was a clear physical resemblance to Shallan : https://coppermind.net/wiki/Chanarach#/media/File:Chanarach_Endsheet.png
Shallan's mother had known contact with the Skybreakers -- why was Nale taking note of a random minor Veden noblewoman?
Shallan is extremely interesting to the Cryptics. They bond her early, and when she kills her spren, they send another one -- and Pattern expected to die too, and he believes that in that event, they'll send another spren to her. Why is the daughter of a random impoverished noble house so fascinating to spren?
WoB that Shallan's ability to Lightweave people into better versions of themselves is not a standard Lightweaver ability, but something special and unique to Shallan.
Shallan's mother always had mental problems.
Said problems kick into overdrive when she sees that her daughter has become Radiant, driving her into homicidal fury. "See a Radiant, kill a Radiant" is behavior we've previously seen from Nale -- underlining the Skybreaker connection -- and Nale says he got it from Ishar. So it seems like Shallan's mother was talking to a Herald at some point.
A Herald dies on the night of Gavilar's assassination. It can't be Taln (already dead), Jezrien, Nale, Shalash, Kalak (attending the party), Ishar (busy as God-King of the Tukari), or Battar (member of Diagram, location accounted for even if the readers don't know it). That only leaves Chana, Vedel, or Paliah, so we can say for certain that a female Herald died on the night of Gavilar's assassination.
The day Shallan kills her mother is unconfirmed, but the interactive map has it happening in the same week as Gavilar's assassination, so the timeline lines up. So a female herald dies the night of Gavilar's assassination and, just by sheer coincidence, we also know about a crazy red-haired woman who's murdered right around then. If that's not related, it's one hell of a headfake.

Honestly the SA5 prologue moved this one from "plausible theory" to R+L=J territory where the author hasn't confirmed it on paper yet, but come the gently caress on, there's too many data points all pointing in the exact same direction, it's confirmed.

There's a much less supported theory (but one I believe nonetheless) that the Stormfather speaking to Gavilar in the SA5 prologue isn't the Stormfather, it's Ishar using his powers to hijack the Connection and pretend to be the Stormfather in order to rope a sucker into taking his place as eternal torture-bait. Quick rundown of the points in favor:

The Stormfather is wildly out of character for the entire conversation.
The Stormfather manifests physically in the room, something we've never seen him do with Dalinar.
The Stormfather has a massive and unhidable reaction to the Herald's death, whereas Jezrien dying seemed to go by unnoticed. You know who did react to Jezrien, though? The other Heralds.
Gavilar doesn't seem to know the Words even though one of the visions directly recites them.
The Words being asked for by the Stormfather are not the Words (Gavilar gets very close to the First Ideal at one point and the Stormfather calls it "not even close", whereas "Give it to me. Now. I need it." is "almost them").
The Stormfather swears an oath that he's done with the Kholin family, one which he seems to have flagrantly broken despite being the literal spren of oaths.

This one is weaker since there's only the single scene and most of this can be answered with "if you assume this scene to be actually the Stormfather, then everything else he says or does has to be disbelieved, because he's clearly not only capable of lying but a massive liar". But I don't buy that explanation.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 03:27

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

A Sneaker Broker posted:

I�m completely bought in now. It would make way too much sense. Especially considering how, in WoR, she just somehow magically knows she had a Shardblade at her disposal. No training. No gifting of the blade to her. It just shows up. What kind of power is that? The power of a daughter of a Herald.

Yeah, what Ojjeorago said. You know the answer to that one. Testament shows up even earlier than that, when Jasnah does her little object lesson with drawing the bandits into an ambush so she can Soulcast them to death, one of Shallan's thoughts is that she's not entirely blameless, because she had a concealed weapon the entire time and never used it. In the moment it passes by without notice because Shallan does her typical immediate brain shutdown move as soon as she begins to think of Testament, and also because, maybe she had a knife or something, who knows? It's only obvious in retrospect that what she's really thinking is "if you really wanted to scare those bandits off, you could've pulled a Shardblade on them at any time".

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 06:18

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

A Sneaker Broker posted:

Full Stormlight Spoilers: I know about Testament now. But with all my knowledge, it is still extremely odd that even though Shallan killed Testament (and most spren races would automatically walk away from Humans as a whole from just one death,) the cryptics were still gonna send another. Hmmmmm.

And a third, if need be! Pattern repeatedly offers to break their bond and die, in full confidence that Shallan will be sent a new Cryptic. It�s very odd.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 07:33

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Infinite Karma posted:

Full Stormlight spoilers It's probably the best theory, but also possible that Shallan is actually Chana, maybe? Or some lightwoven + soulcast creation/reincarnation of Chana? Her magic seems to mess with Identity, it fits thematically even if all the dots aren't connected yet.

That is a very stupid theory that makes no sense. We can start with the fact that Chana is the patron of the Dustbringers, not the Lightweavers, move from there to the part where Nale is repeatedly mentioned as the only Herald to actually join a Radiant order, and keep going from there, if anyone really wants to.

meatbag posted:

I meant it as a point against Chana being Shallans mother - if there are eight lines, no Herald died the same night as Gavilar, or at least not died-died

Obviously not died-died. Jezrien getting permanently killed is quite explicitly the first time that's ever happened, and a Herald regular dying wouldn't break the Oathpact, why would you expect it to? Them dying was a regular occurrence during Desolations.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 17:09

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Tunicate posted:

That doesnt preclude Shallan being a very real biological daughter who is now dead and being impersonated.

How and when did this daughter die, and why does neither Shallan's father nor brothers notice? Is your theory that when Shallan kills her mother, what actually happened is her mother killed Shallan, whipped up a Lightweaving to disguise them as each other, one which held up even though whatever funeral arrangements were done on the mother's body, and then constantly kept it up for the next five years, even though "Shallan" had a small child's body and her actual adult body was still there and could be noticed by being bumped into, was fitted for clothes which she then wore, grew at a believable pace even though growing is imperceptable day-by-day, oh and also she's somehow maintained this illusion both times she's been in Shadesmar and has had periods of days or weeks where all the Stormlight has run out and she quite explicitly has none and no way to get more?

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 17:47

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Tunicate posted:

we've seen herald reflexes. as depicted, there's no way a small child could possibly successfully kill a herald.

shallan tried to kill her mom (as depicted), but instead of succeeding, her mom instead immediately killed her.

out of grief (and herald brain syndrome) chana went from wishing she had been the one to die instead, to CONVINCING herself she was the one to die instead. as with any highly invested cosmere entity, the body reflects the self image (as in yumi), so she then took on shallan's appearance. It is possible she may have committed suicide and Returned as Shallan, creating the body however heralds do that.

this explains several mentions from "shallan"'s pov that "shallan" is a fake identity.

formless is the original totally nuts chana persona, suppressed so hard "shallan" refuses to give a name.

Brandon was asked about that theory at dragonsteel and said "That's uh... that's really dark"

That is slightly more plausible, but still unlikely. Vaunted "herald reflexes" did not save Jezrien from completely baseline human un-Invested Moash walking up and stabbing him. So there's absolutely precedent that a sufficiently surprised/incapacitated Herald can just get stabbed and die. We don't know how Invested the Heralds are without their Honorblades. Hell, we don't even know how Invested they are with their Honorblades, and it seems like nobody on Roshar can maintain permanent Investiture because the Light always wears out. A Bladeless Herald being able to reshape their own body based on self image is completely unproven (and, I'd argue, highly unlikely, given that they don't seem to have ever changed appearance in the last four millenia despite going completely bugfuck crazy). Shallan believes that "Shallan" is a false identity in part because she means that the smiley, quip-heavy persona she puts on for the world is a false face, and in part because she has a galloping case of untreated DID and frequently disassociates. Formless is quite explicitly named as a new persona, and the entire climax to Shallan's RoW plot hinges on the fact that Formless is not actually a persona at all, it's just Shallan wallowing in self-hatred.

Also, under this theory, how do you explain "I killed my father" and "I killed my mother" being accepted as Truths? They would not be true, that seems like a pretty major obstacle. Also, if Shallan tries to kill her mother as depicted, that means that original Shallan, not Chana, bonded Testament. So how is Testament a deadeye? Radiants dying doesn't kill their spren -- Syl was fine, Kaladin in RoW thinks about how every time one of his Windrunners dies, their spren immediately turns around and bonds a waiting squire. And, secondary questions, how does fake Shallan recognize Testament? She would have never seen the spren. How is fake Shallan bonded to Testament as a deadeye? And why are the Cryptics now trying to bond fake Shallan, if it was real Shallan they wanted? The bonds react to the soul; it doesn't matter how much Chana believes she's Shallan, that doesn't give her Shallan's soul, it doesn't give her Shallan's suitability to become a Lightweaver. And the Cryptics clearly didn't want her before; they sent a spren to her daughter, not her.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 18:37

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Ojjeorago posted:

Stormlight We know that the Heralds got their Stormlight directly from Honor, like how Odium gives the Fused Voidlight, and based on all the poo poo Ishar pulled at the end of RoW it seems like that's still working? So they have essentially infinite investiture, just no powers to use it without either taking back their blades or forming a Nahel bond (or both lol Nale).

Ishar has his blade in that scene, though.

# ¿ Apr 17, 2024 19:13

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

The experience was identical to confirming my pledge for the last one. Which is unsurprising, given that pledge fufillment for the last one was also done by Backerkit.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 05:19

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

aparmenideanmonad posted:

Oh come on. Sure, lots of people wanted the leatherbound book, but the actual draw for most was the new secret project book, and they very clearly structured this to prop up the physical goods sales with the new book release. This is the equivalent of making you walk through the gift shop after you visit the museum and it's annoying and icky. And not to blow this out of proportion, but Brandon is typically a shining example of how to do things right, so it's also a bit disappointing coming from his team.

Numbers from backerkit:
45k people (43%) opted for a leatherbound reward that includes the secret project book + dragonsteel prime
57k people (56%) opted for only the new book release (about 60% of which wanted the physical books vs. 40% wanting ebooks)

I mean, I only wanted the new book and not the leatherbound but that didn't stop my dumb rear end from dropping nearly $300 on goodies.

# ¿ Apr 19, 2024 17:00

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Lift just has a very particular worldview, and is of the strongly held opinion that when what she thinks ought to be happening and reality contradict each other, reality is wrong and she's owed an apology. (Spoilers through RoW) Unclear how much that's just her and how much it's her wish to "always be myself" -- it's hard to argue that there's anyone quite as themself, all the time, as Lift.

# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 21:37

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

eke out posted:

ew, thanks for the warning, cross that one off my list

TWoK Prime is... an interesting curiosity. It's a bad book (Hard Mode challenge: read it and give a drat about anyone except, maybe, Dalinar), but it's interesting to see the proto-versions of characters who eventually became good and a world and magic system that eventually became interesting.

# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 20:54

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Kaiser Mazoku posted:

the what now

Shallan is forced into a political marriage with Taravangian by her father, and Taravangian proceeds to... ahem... take his marital rights extremely forcefully while disregarding Shallan's clearly expressed displeasure. Also Jasnah, who I think is about Shallan's age in this version, marries Amaram, and while he's not the complete monster that Taravangian is, Jasnah is very much gritting her teeth and bearing it rather than enthusiastic.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 18:46

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Jose Valasquez posted:

He's talked in the past that early in his career he was being pushed to be more like GRRM, so that's possibly why the tone was so off in TWoKP

Yeah, there's a very strong "I am trying to ape GoT's tone" hanging over the entire book and it's just... even if Sanderson wasn't the wrong writer for that, it's still the wrong story, because even as unfinished and bland as it is, it's still a high fantasy story with actual magic being commonplace.

# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 23:01

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

mewse posted:

This was my understanding - Sigzil and Hoid had both held one previously. Is it left unstated whether it was the dawnshard that Rysn is holding?

It's unstated, but it's extremely unlikely. There's no good reason why the Change command would abhor violence. Violence is really, really good at making things change.

# ¿ May 6, 2024 21:31

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Electric Teeth as Bridge Four is objectively correct, though.

# ¿ May 7, 2024 02:41

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Lucas Archer posted:

Crazy theory - Kaladin is still alive as of Sunlit Man, as one of the new Heralds. That's the only explanation I can think of for why Nomad thought he saw Kal before realizing it was Wit..

I really hope not. It's been repeated too often across the Cosmere that you're really not supposed to live forever, and doing so does horrible things to the minds of the immortals. The Heralds are all bugfuck insane just from living too long, I don't want that for Kal.

# ¿ May 7, 2024 18:15

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

If you missed something as major as Ruin being killed and Sazed picking up both Shards, you really need to go back and read again.

# ¿ May 7, 2024 22:39

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Mordiceius posted:

After spending so much time with Roshar via the Stormlight Archive, it makes Scadrial feel somewhat underdeveloped comparatively.

I think that's an intended reaction.

Era 2 spoilers: Scadrians being so incredibly Elendel Basin-centric that nothing outside of it really exists at all in their minds starts out as Era 2 subtext (the "Roughs" aren't, the Basin is just so ridiculously fertile that nobody's ever bothered to invent basic agriculture) and ends up as significant plot points, with the Southerners completely blindsiding everyone just by existing and the obviously growing nascent rebellion from the cities that are not Elendel.

# ¿ May 8, 2024 21:34

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Mordiceius posted:

I know I'm definitely the first person to ever say this statement but goddamn should Adolin/Shallan/Kaladin just be a throuple.

Sanderson's WoB on it is funny, at least: Shallan's in, obviously, and Adolin would go for it too, but Kaladin is "as much as prude as I [meaning Sanderson] am" and he wouldn't agree.

Notice how nothing in that response says anything about Kaladin not being into dudes (or, at the very least, Adolin).

# ¿ May 8, 2024 23:07

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Nitrous, have you read the Stormlight books?

# ¿ May 14, 2024 03:31

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Nitrousoxide posted:

Books 1 and 2. Folks recommended I stop there and do Mistborn era 2 before starting book 3.

Okay then, you know this. Odium is the Shard-killer you�re trying to remember.

# ¿ May 14, 2024 03:50

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Mordiceius posted:

If you are post Bands of Mourning and Secret History, you should have details to a lot of this stuff. Here are some of those details for clarifications purposes:

"Ol' One Spike" is Kelsier. Even before Secret History, this is outlined in the Bands of Mourning epilogue. Kelsier feels the spike over his eye and then looks down at his arms covered in scars.

The Beggar is Hoid.

The Driver is also Hoid.

The Ire are indeed Elantrians

Also the "Lord Mistborn" that the Era 2 Scadrians refer to is Spook. This should've been obvious when you saw the "High Imperial" inscription above that library.

# ¿ May 15, 2024 21:09

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

81sidewinder posted:

Thoughts about these theories after Oathbringer -

5.Elhokar lasted a lot longer than I thought, and we seemingly end up with King Dalinar anyway. Elhokar death was a blockbuster moment, one of my favorite of this book.

4. Lift backstory about her mystery feels eminent too. How is she perpetually a kid?

Spoilers through Oathbringer: Are we ending up with King Dalinar? I seem to remember somebody else wearing the crown of Alethkar by the end of the book. Did you miss that?

And are you sure Lift is perpetually a kid? If you've read Edgedancer, go back and read the opening chapter again. What upset her enough to run away?

# ¿ May 15, 2024 23:58

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# ¿ May 16, 2024 07:28

CapnAndy: Feb 27, 2004; Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

81sidewinder posted:

Good points. I needed to read that page with King Dalinar again, and I absolutely misremembered that - we are almost certainly going in a different direction than what I posted before. Shallan suggests Jasna here, I'm guessing

A fairly safe guess, given that she shows up with a crown on her head.

# ¿ May 16, 2024 05:30

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