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soggybagel posted:He is but also he's widely popular and its kind of a rock rolling down hill momentum wise. I'm not saying this to compare the two ideologically at all, but McAfee is right now sort of like Tucker Carlson in that he obviously organically grew his reach through working a lot but ESPN has now given him a massive platform and put him everywhere all the time. If ESPN just fired Pat McAfee he'd disappear pretty fast the way Tucker Carlson did once he didn't have the platform. Now granted, the difference is someone else would probably hire him but he's the hot thing right now and ESPN gives him massive reach through hard work but also ESPN's sheer force of will he's kind of everywhere right now. This is very incorrect lol. I personally don't watch his show like that, but have seen some clips on youtube from time to time if it seems somewhat interesting, but the reason they brought him in is because he organically grew his platform through his insanely popular Youtube show. And got people watching and streaming. In a way that like most ESPN shows just don't have that type of retention. Like his show he puts on ESPN is just the same thing he's done for like the past 5-6 years or so on youtube, which was pulling in large amounts of viewers and sponsors, consistently If they let him go, he would just go back to doing his youtube show that got like 50-100k viewers or whatever watching daily live. People like him, because he's "fun" is less uptight than most other people talking sports, has a bunch of athlete friends and connections which let him get good guests. And he's a former player so they loosen up and are willing to more shoot the poo poo with him vs being in PR mode. He talks about sports like "normal" people do. I don't like comparing him to Tucker Carlson as like Pat isn't a white nationalist fascist terrible human being(or at least like doesn't preach it from his pulpit I don't know that dude). He could easily just go back to doing the show on his own. The reason he took the show to ESPN, was because he had a kid and wanted to deal with less overhead like dealing with insurance, payroll and other stuff high level for his employees. From all reports the pay difference between what the show previously did under draftkings and what ESPN is paying is minimal. But the overhead stuff is handled by ESPN now. I tire of the bit quickly when I do end up watching a clip of a segment for whatever reason, but absolutely respect the grind he's been on. Just think of him like a twitch streamer, only instead of video games or whatever he's talking sports, and built an audience that enjoys his personality and his employees personality. We are all old, jaded, and would probably prefer more serious coverage, vs what Pat does which is outsized personality and like just relying on his own charisma with "jokes" and bits to get through a show
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Timby posted:He does give anti-vax shitheads like Aaron Rodgers a platform, though. I mean yeah, but like at least to me personally, there is a decently wide gap between pushing white replacement theory, and being an anti-vax rear end in a top hat. But yeah, not gonna be out here defending platforming Aaron Rodgers, it's lovely.
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Gregg Doyel asking Caitlin Clark to do the heart hand gesture at him in her introductory press conference https://twitter.com/JackMacCFB/status/1780658279565213892 Which really gives his posts from today's coverage a sinister tone https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/1780596256387064246 https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/1780607395992911926 https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/1780608884840755296 https://twitter.com/GreggDoyelStar/status/1780673844006527437
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McAfee talked to Belichick for 30 mins today and didn't ask him about the article that came out today lol
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DJExile posted:someone get Gregggg a glass of water holy poo poo firehose wouldn't be enough to quench that thirst
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Timby posted:He does give anti-vax shitheads like Aaron Rodgers a platform, though. hey speaking of that: https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1780327001397559420?s=46&t=N0fz65wLEKglu9TyofS2Yw
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Dexo posted:This is very incorrect lol. Which is why I was comparing him only to the platform elevating him. I specifically said they weren't ideologically similar. I also absolutely respect his growth/grind. He did a hell of a job growing and selling himself. I guess I wasn't clear. My point is, if ESPN banished him he'd be way way less in our face. He'd still have his big fanbase that would follow him but it wouldn't feel omniprescent. From showing up on the sideline of college football games as an alternate cast, to being on ESPN College Gameday, to getting in big "feuds" that feed the content beast that even other ESPN programs feed off of. A Youtube show getting 100k viewers daily is a lot different than being shown on ESPN. ESPN Is big and omnipresent and on at bars 24/7 etc. I don't hate him. I don't think he's a white nationalist or anything. My point was he feels like he's "everywhere" in the sports world because he is literally appearing on nearly anything football related on ESPN which is a massive percentage of their programming. If ESPN suddenly and for no reason just fired him he'd feel much less omnipresent. ESPN the brand and platform is bigger than any single personality. If Stephen A Smith died tonight we'd have a new Stephen A Smith in a few months. I'm old and jaded for sure. But I also like a ton of "new media" coverage. I will throw on a couple of the gaming streamers I like when I just want some background noise while I work. I'm not completely removed from the modern sports landscape. I don't just want to bring back The Sports Reporters for 4 hours. Pat's certainly not my cup of tea but I absolutely see why he's popular. soggybagel fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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Habemus Cheez Doodlem
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I suspect the current court would also overturn the tobacco ban as well I remember a tweet a few years ago saying we really got that smoking ban in under the wire or you'd have chuds walking around blasting Marlboro Reds in nonbinary kids' faces to be anti-woke
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projecthalaxy posted:https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1780631209930068358?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw i'm usually against betting suspensions or bans but betting on your team to lose or betting under on prop bets on yourself should actually get you banned for life. that fundamentally undermines the legitimacy of the sport.
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FMguru posted:Pat is basically store-brand Joe Rogan. Wow that’s crazy
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mcmagic posted:i'm usually against betting suspensions or bans but betting on your team to lose or betting under on prop bets on yourself should actually get you banned for life. that fundamentally undermines the legitimacy of the sport. Yeah, this is the example of what Not To Do. Also add in the fact he had a Discord server suggesting people get in on the action that he was directly controlling? Hoo buddy.
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Codependent Poster posted:That Doyel stuff was so embarrassing. Nobody likes his coverage of anything. He sucks so much. He really is terrible. His next column that’s any good will be the first
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projecthalaxy posted:https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1780631209930068358?s=46&t=bsTHbtMSqHXbNGi0vWP8hw The phrasing here sounds like he got really heated in a CoD lobby.
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Porter is the first player to get lifetime banned not for drugs since 1961, when Connie Hawkins was banned for I think also throwing games (I don't actually know what "point shaving" is lol), which seems like a long time!
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projecthalaxy posted:Porter is the first player to get lifetime banned not for drugs since 1961, when Connie Hawkins was banned for I think also throwing games (I don't actually know what "point shaving" is lol), which seems like a long time! Point shaving is when you intentionally hit the under or let the other team cover while still winning. Favored to win by 10 and your team is up 9 at the end of the game? Just brick some shots to satisfy the mob guys who are paying you to shave.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Point shaving is when you intentionally hit the under or let the other team cover while still winning. Favored to win by 10 and your team is up 9 at the end of the game? Just brick some shots to satisfy the mob guys who are paying you to shave. and now we do it for crypto bros in discords...
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projecthalaxy posted:and now we do it for crypto bros in discords...
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Henchman of Santa posted:Point shaving is when you intentionally hit the under or let the other team cover while still winning. Favored to win by 10 and your team is up 9 at the end of the game? Just brick some shots to satisfy the mob guys who are paying you to shave. projecthalaxy posted:and now we do it for crypto bros in discords... Crazy Ted posted:We used to be a proper society. Casino (1995)
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:Casino (1995) The Boston College point shaving scandal was briefly mentioned in Goodfellas. Right before Maury gets an ice pick in the brain, he says, “Did you hear about those points we were shaving up in Boston?” And that really was the crew doing it.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Point shaving is when you intentionally hit the under or let the other team cover while still winning. Favored to win by 10 and your team is up 9 at the end of the game? Just brick some shots to satisfy the mob guys who are paying you to shave. If you're a point guard you can just run a slow offense. No intentional missing, still running a sub-optimal strategy.
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Florida continues to be horrific in new, but old ways. A racial slur and a Fort Myers High baseball team torn apart The headline doesn't do this justice. No, it's not a team "torn apart.", it was a racist text that began a buildup of more racism that begat a high school baseball team walking out mid-game on its two players of color. That included the staff. One of the players walked out on is the son of former MLB player Michael Tucker. I'd expect this article from 1970, but not in 2024. gently caress Trump, gently caress DeSantis, gently caress the Fort Myers school system adminsitration, gently caress the white parents and anybody else who contributed to this. Hope this article brings a federal lawsuit and not just the ones from the players' parents.
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RC and Moon Pie posted:Florida continues to be horrific in new, but old ways.
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What an insane story. How do most of those adults make it through the day?quote:White parents in his defense reasoned that… an Afghan War veteran… had made an honest mistake and should be forgiven. Gonna let my friends who deployed to Afghanistan know they can Say It, but the one who went to Iraq can get hosed.
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The last line is amazing. quote:It was a sentiment reinforced by Gwynetta Gittens, who said, "You're in Robert E. Lee County, and these people don't accept any blame for anything. They never have." Racist in south Florida isn’t surprising. I’m mostly surprised so many of them would self destruct their own playing/coaching careers over this.
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General Dog posted:Love projecting brain damage due to Covid/leaded gas on people I don’t like I don't think they're saying that those people's brains are damaged from coronavirus, just a steady diet of right wing media over the same period.
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