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Mike Barnicle had his first piece go up on Grantland today. Who is Mike Barnicle? Let's go to The Big Lead and find out.The Big Lead posted:Mike Barnicle was a prominent columnist for the Boston Globe from 1974 to 1998. He was a distinctive, trusted voice throughout New England until multiple scandals forced his resignation. Journalism has two cardinal rules: don’t make poo poo up and don’t plagiarize. Mike Barnicle did both. Yep, Barnicle is somebody who made stuff up, like a column about two families bonding in a hospital, and somebody who rips off jokes and quotes. He lost his job because of it. Why does this matter? Let's go to Deadspin. Tom Socca posted:"Now it's all on these things, computers." What an uncannily dialogue-like bit of dialogue, there. Terry Francona is known for being a good talker, but Mike Barnicle is known for stuff too. Such as not worrying too much about the relationship between the words people say and the words he decides to write. Not to mention other direct quotes, like "It works pretty well, the numbers stuff." Or the wildly inaccurate numbers he uses in the story. Socca/Deadspin are offering $500 for a recording of Francona actually saying these lines. I'm curious, too. Could it be -horror of horrors - that somebody who's made poo poo up in the past made poo poo up again?
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hcreight posted:You left quite a void when you left the Star, didn't you Joe Pos? Whitlock certainly did, anyway.
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Jul 19, 2011 02:26
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I kicked in a couple of bucks to that this morning. I've always enjoyed reading Freeman and Shoals, so I'm looking forward to something they're behind.
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Aug 16, 2011 01:48
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quote:You've heard of hanging chads? This was a Chad that wouldn't stop hanging. I can just see Reilly smiling after he types this, right before explaining to a 20-year old intern that it's a reference to something that happened 11 years ago
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Aug 16, 2011 03:47
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CLAMBO! posted:I don't know if this counts as journalism but I really enjoyed this article. It's the David Foster Wallace NYT bit on Federer. I only link it because it keeps popping into my head as I've been reading Grantland, then unfairly compare those guys to DFW and they fall so far short. I kind of miss Play Magazine, there was some great writing there. Michael Lewis wrote a really good piece on Texas Tech football for them a few years ago. And yeah, Yahoo is doing a tremendous job on the Miami story, that's some amazing reporting. I read the other day that Yahoo Sports is pulling in more numbers than ESPN. I'm not surprised, they've been doing a great job as of late.
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Aug 17, 2011 15:50
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[0:01-0:33] What, you mean you don't like it when Klosterman writes 2000 words about an instrumental 70s rock track and tries to straddle a line between being snarky and insightful? [0:34-1:01] Especially when it's centered around him breaking down a youtube video, second by second? Or filled with anecdotes about growing up in a small town? What if I told you it's also packed with references to 80s hair metal? [1:02-1:03] This is definitely the part of the song I like the least. [1:04-1:30] The way he structured that piece isn't an awful gimmick at all, it's a really cool way to appreciate a guy who today records music written by Ron Hubbard
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Aug 19, 2011 01:57
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I agree, but I can also see Carles writing style confusing a lot of people who have no idea what Hipster Runoff is, too. He's an odd choice.
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Aug 23, 2011 17:18
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Crion posted:I don't really know if this counts as sports journalism because I don't give anyone a blowjob for playing the right way, but: I enjoyed that, it was a good read (even though I can't stand Baltimore). Good job!
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Oct 7, 2011 23:07
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Grantland takes a lot of flak here, and rightly so, but their director's cut series has been pretty good. The latest is Gay Talese's profile on Joe DiMaggio, which is a little long, but a great read.
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Oct 19, 2011 03:56
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If you want something good to read, go read this piece on Bill Conlin over on Mobute's blog. It's really worth your time.
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Dec 28, 2011 00:32
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Did Lasorda talk about his son, or was he still at the point where he refused to acknowledge he even had one?
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Jan 3, 2012 22:01
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Maybe someone that follows baseball more than I do can explain why someone who doesn't cover baseball gets to have a vote? Do people that don't cover college football vote on the Heisman or AP poll? Anyway, I thought The Platoon Advantage had the best answer for people rationalizing stupid HOF voting.
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Jan 11, 2012 00:56
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It's not surprising, but that seems pretty harsh to me. A while ago here in Canada there was a similar thing where a bunch of outlets reported Pat Burns was dead and it took Burns himself calling a reporter at TSN before they retracted their story. I might be wrong, but I don't believe anyone lost their job over that.
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Jan 27, 2012 22:17
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Crazy Ted posted:If any of you are keeping track at home, Jason Whitlock has come around to offer some kind of apology-like thing after Tweeting the following about Jeremy Lin after he dropped 38 on the Lakers last Friday: My favorite sportswriter twitter moment of the weekend was Buzz Bissenger flipping out over Jeremy Lin and saying that jews run the world.
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Feb 14, 2012 00:38
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zakharov posted:Link/screenshot please He said it here and a few other times, too.
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Feb 14, 2012 03:56
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At least Reilly laid off on the dental jokes this time!
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Feb 15, 2012 02:57
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I'm kind of in the same boat: worked my rear end in in J-School, interned at a national newsroom and found out the hard way that covering sports sucks, as does the pay: last summer I interviewed for an editorial job that paid literally $14 an hour, with about 20 hours a week. I've thought about going back to get a Masters in journalism at Ryerson, but I'm pretty sure that'd just be like throwing my savings in a dumpster.
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Feb 16, 2012 05:41
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Holocausplay posted:This is one of those things that makes me love and hate sabermetrics and wonky blogs about contracts and poo poo, because there are all these talented dudes with jobs as statisticians, market analysts and attorneys who really don't give a poo poo that they're turning in 2,000-word columns for $50. They don't need to care. Although this isn't exclusive to sports journalism. Almost all media review is dominated by happy fans who just want to share their opinions and will glut the market. You can write a smart 1,000-word review of a new history book and not only be on the hook for obtaining your own copy but be obliged to spend 10 hours reading it and cash a lavish $30 check for your troubles. Yeah, I've ran into this. It's cool when they expect it to be for free, since "it's exposure." And if I back out, there's people willing to fill those inches. It's always a lot of fun to deal with those outlets: I once had to badger a guy for two months just to get a copy of a magazine I was published in. That column rules, it's hilarious how everyone is turning a perfect storm into a Horatio Alger story.
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Feb 17, 2012 22:02
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Pvt. Public posted:Well that is certainly a thing. Jesus gently caress, Heyman. Kill yourself. I hope they revisit it in 10 or so years, when the interviewees will all be retired or out of sports media and won't give a poo poo anymore, the kind of attitude that made their SNL book awesome.
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Feb 19, 2012 04:10
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MorningView posted:Right, and the headline is about a game that happened like five years ago. So is the photo: there's a Playoffs logo on the court. It's from 2007.
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Feb 19, 2012 05:51
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FWIW, The Star's sports section is trash. It's what publishes Damien Cox on a regular basis.
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Feb 22, 2012 01:20
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Duff McKagan also runs his own financial management firm. Based on his stance in that article his clients must all be going bankrupt. To be fair, he's probably a better financial manager than Lenny Dykstra.
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Feb 23, 2012 04:10
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peepoogenderparts posted:Speaking of Adrian Wojnarowski, I just got finished reading his book about the 1992 Duke/Kentucky game. I'm pretty psyched to read this book, but it was written by Gene Wojciechowski, not Adrian. I think Woj is a solid reporter- he's pretty good for breaking NBA news - but I don't care for his columns, they're usually slamming David Stern or LeBron or someone and it gets boring after a while. And his book about high school basketball is pretty good, too.
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Feb 28, 2012 03:04
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Also I remember a few years ago, LeBron passed to Daniel Gibson at the end of a Pistons/Cavs playoff game and Gibson missed the game-winner. Everyone threw LeBron under the bus, saying he should have took charge and been a leader. Then a few games later LeBron had that 48-point game where he was the only Cav scoring late in the fourth and at all in overtime and a bunch of people called him selfish and a ball hog.
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Feb 28, 2012 04:33
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Joe Posnanski is leaving SI and joining a joint venture between the USA Today and MLB Advanced Media. On one hand, SI is losing one of the best writers (and what about his book on Joe Paterno?), but on the other, I'm interested in seeing what this project is. He's still going to be blogging, which is nice.
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Mar 31, 2012 04:23
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Simmons is also a hockey expert now, just years after trashing the NHL in his Red Sox book and saying the Bruins lost him as a fan. Funny what a Cup run will do. I don't think it's too suspicious that nobody from ESPN met Sarah Phillips, I do some freelancing and I've never met most of the people I've worked for face-to-face. It's the Twitter stuff and the NBA meme guy that surprise me: it blows my mind that people care so much about their follower count that they're willing to pay to gain more. And you're telling me a guy who copies and pastes photos off ESPN articles had no idea he was infringing copyright?
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May 2, 2012 21:39
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haljordan posted:I'm not a huge hockey fan; was it really an abominable trade or is it just Simmons overreacting again? Toronto got Phil Kessel, Boston got two first round picks (one of which ended up being the second overall, which they used to draft Tyler Seguin) plus some other stuff. Boston made out like devils in that deal.
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May 2, 2012 22:41
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It's David Menzies, he's a buffoon, a hack and one of the most marginal people on Sun News Net, a station that draws ratings so low they're not even recorded. Instead of reading his trash, go read Chemmy's takedown on Pension Plan Puppets.
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May 11, 2012 02:55
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I'm happy both The Classical and Grantland exist, too, but for different reasons. To me, The Classical is kind of like the listings of Notable Sportswriting at the end of those Glenn Stout anthologies: I'm not going to like everything there, but it's a good place to check out new voices and stuff you wouldn't normally see. Crion's piece is a good example and Tom Keiser's UFL piece is another. Grantland's the opposite: I'm not going to discover anyone new there, but it's nice to see stuff by people I already know and enjoy. And they've had some very good pieces there, too: I really enjoyed their oral history of the Malice at the Palace.
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Aug 8, 2012 16:50
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R.D. Mangles posted:This is a great article about the potential of Smush Parker to cause a chain reaction to preventing the collapse of a Greek commercial titan: Yeah, The Classical's been pretty good of late. I liked this piece by David Roth on Roger Goodell, the Super Bowl and one hell of a parade float.
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Feb 3, 2013 17:32
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The Prisoner posted:I've been pretty impressed with Sports on Earth as a whole since its launch. It's weird that they're already losing Posnanski to NBC but the guy's been a nomad over the last two years. Yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. I find myself going to SOE a lot more often than Grantland these days.
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Feb 12, 2013 02:31
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Holy Diverticulitis posted:There's also the tremendous sexism of it, which was a huge turnoff to me, even though I think I have a lot of thick-headed male blindness to that sort of thing. I know what you mean, to me Simmons came off weirdly creepy in that book. I remember he kept making references to porn stars all throughout it and it wasn't something I expected. I didn't hate the book, but I haven't opened it since I finished it a few years ago, either.
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Feb 25, 2013 02:04
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I might be alone in this, but I thought Free Darko's basketball book was a lot better. It's a little dated, but still a fun read.
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Feb 25, 2013 02:58
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morestuff posted:And he's also stopped writing completely. Yeah, Shoals works for Wieden+Kennedy now or something. I don't think he's writing much anywhere anymore.
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Feb 26, 2013 04:06
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The Prisoner posted:What ESPN ought to be doing is hiring people who are legitimately entertaining and likable to helm Sportscenter, as their subsidiary north of the border seems to have done. Many of my Canadian friends watch TSN's Sportscentre for Jay Onrait and Dan O'Toole antics as much as they do for the news and highlights. The distinction here is that Onrait and O'Toole are light-hearted and enjoyable guys who don't take themselves or their roles too seriously - which may or may not be inherent to TSN's less dominant position over Canadian sports media versus ESPN's over the US' combined with the fact their timeslot is later at night. I know exactly what you mean. I watch Sportscentre for Jay and Dan (hell, I listen to their podcast) because they're a fun watch, even when Sportcentre does 20 minutes of hockey highlights I couldn't care less about. For the longest time, I just assumed ESPN was like this too and I was surprised when I watched an episode a year or two ago. That said, I'd argue TSN is pretty dominant in Canadian sports media. They have NFL and NCAA tournament rights, both the NBA and NHL playoffs and the bulk of ESPN's programming.
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Mar 4, 2013 03:09
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Deadspin and Alex Belth from Bronx Banter just launched a new site called The Stacks, which is going to be a mix of hard-to-find old sportswriting, author interviews and more. I'm curious about this, one of the things I like best about Bronx Banter is when they republish old stuff I've never read before.Alex Belth posted:The point is simple: find classic pieces of writing that can't be found on-line and give them a home. Introduce them to a new audience or present them to readers who haven't read them in years. That's what I'll offer in this space, a simulcast of what's being reprinted in this Banter series.
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R.D. Mangles posted:I'm pretty sure Bill Simmons is aware of the MLK assassination because it was a key plot point on an episode of Mad Men this season. Simmons has a weird history writing about stuff like that. Remember his basketball book when he'd say something like "I'm not black enough to write about this but.." and go on for paragraphs about the hall of fame or whatever? As Charles Pierce said: Charles Pierce posted:Oh, Lord, reading Simmons on race and/or history is like watching those guys in The Wages Of Fear drive the nitroglycerin down the mountain.
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