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Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

that awful man posted:

Remember the commercial where Darth Vader fights the Energizer bunny and loses because the batteries in his lightsaber went dead? How does this fit into the official Star Wars canon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxafIhYFOr0

G-canon

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Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Phylodox posted:

Who really cares? This is exactly the kind of nit-picking that makes the expanded universe stuff so bad. The whole rebellion vs. empire conflict serves only as a backdrop for the story of Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader. The Emperor was, in terms of the story, the empire. The actual logistics of why the imperial forces turned tail and ran or exactly how thoroughly they were defeated at Endor is irrelevant.

That, when you get right down to it, is why the prequels and almost all of the expanded universe stuff sucks, because it's all largely irrelevant. Star Wars, the original trilogy, tells a complete story. With the redemption and death of Vader, the story is over. Continuing the story, either into the future or the past, is pointless.

If there really, honestly had to be an expanded universe to Star Wars, it should have focused on other stories entirely unrelated to the Skywalkers.


I don't think you "get" the Star Wars Questions megathread.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Nessus posted:

Episode IV told a complete story. All the other five movies were irrelevant.

Well, you see, the thing about that is, SIX MOVIES ONE STORY THERE ARE NO TRILOGIES ONLY THE SAGA

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Decius posted:

Something not filmed with 3D-cameras, but "upconverted" to 3D pretty much always looks like rear end. It's the recoloured B/W-movie of our time.

As someone who paid $15 + the cost of snacks to watch Clash of the Titans in 3D, I can assure you that you are correct.

I can't wait for Jar Jar's flatulence to be in 3D.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Silver Brushes posted:

I was going to post the news article about how the 3D/BluRay releases of the OT are going to include:

-Pieces of Anakin's podracer digitally added to the junk in the sandcrawler
-Jango Fett's voice for all stormtroopers
-Ewan McGregor and Liam Neeson as Force ghosts at the end
-Voices of Natalie Portman and Liam Neeson pleading with Vader to save Luke as he is being zapped
-Luke's eyes turning Sith yellow-red after he cuts Vader's hand off

but now Wookieepedia has gotten us in the April Fool's mindset in this thread.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Lucas actually went back and had Temuera Morrison rerecord all Stormtrooper dialog, just for the hell of it.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

quote:

According to Star Trek, one cannot separate Hitler's good qualities from his bad qualities. In the episode Tapestry, Picard has a chance to relive his life, ostensibly without the defects of character he had in his youth, and his life turns out to be mediocre. Because a person/ life is a tapestry and you can't remove one string without the whole thing coming apart.

The next time anyone tries to engage me in a debate about politics, I'm going to lead off with "According to Star Trek," and hopefully they'll leave me alone at that point.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Grendels Dad posted:

I feel like an idiot because I realized: A New Hope had a ship called the blockade runner. And in The Phantom Menace, they actually run a blockade.

I didn't notice this, but my brain did.

This is just another perfect example of the great parallelism between the two trilogies that George Lucas had expertly planned out. SIX MOVIES ONE STORY THERE ARE NO TRILOGIES THERE ahahahaha gently caress I can't do this

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

VaultAggie posted:

Jesus, Attack of the Clones is worse than I remembered. My neighbor invited me over to watch it and since I haven't watched it in years, I agreed. I haven't cringed more watching a movie since Transformers 2. I think the only memorable thing from that hunk of poo poo was Across the Stars, a good song for an awful romance. :suicide:

My college roommate and I would do marathons of all 8 movies (Both trilogies, Clone Wars and Holiday Special), but we eventually stopped watching Clones because it was so bad.

Think about that. We chose to watch 10 minutes of unsubtitled Wookie and a movie with a character quite literally named "Stinky The Hutt" over Attack of the Clones.

edit: Without Rifftrax on the Holiday Special.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

VaultAggie posted:

He's just waiting to convert it to 3d as well. I can just see it now; wookies talking wookies with other wookies in 3d!

That'd be awesome, man. I'd love for the Holiday Special to feel so real that I actually thought I was standing right next to Malla as she watches Harvey Korman in drag cook Bantha Surprise.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Flavor Bear posted:

10.
There are 10 movies. You'd better believe the loving Ewoks movies count (they are my favorite Star Wars).

Forgot about those Ewok movies. I actually found the DVD at a garage sale, but my roommate got drunk and threw it in the garbage because he hated Ewoks so much. :( It all worked out, since I told him the DVD was worth $50 and so that's what he paid me for it.

I suppose I should feel guilty about that, but then again, he tried to turn "That's so wizard, Annie!" into a catchphrase around our dorms, so he probably deserved it. :colbert:

Speaking of Phantom Menace, I feel compelled to remind everyone that Greedo is literally in that movie. I think someone brought it up again a couple pages back, but it bears repeating: Lucas literally thought it was a good idea to have little babby Greedo be in a movie.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Admiral Goodenough posted:

I never even considered the fact that it could be Greedo, I just assumed that it was another Rodian. Is he actually referred to as Greedo in the movie?

There's a deleted scene where baby Greedo accuses Anakin of cheating in a podrace and a third character (played by Warwick Davis, interestingly enough) literally tells Greedo that if he doesn't change his violent ways, he's going to meet a bad end.

Yeah.

gently caress George Lucas.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Flavor Bear posted:

Also Yoda should have been driving an AT-ST that was riding on top of an AT-AT.
And just throwing bucketfuls of lightsabers out the window.

Thanks to this post, I have this mental image of Yoda being the Grand Marshall of a parade, but instead of throwing out candy to children, he starts throwing out lightsabers and the streets basically just look like the Jedi Temple in Sith, with piles of dead younglings lying all over the place.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
Also, I just got the idea for a suit that is just a giant lightsaber and you just run up and headbutt people to impale them. Or a Power Rangers-style giant lightsaber that is made up of members of the Jedi Council or some poo poo.

Someone call the EU, we can make a novel trilogy out of this.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Mister Roboto posted:

No, it screams LUCAS SUDDENLY BECAME A MILLIONAIRE FROM ANH, BLEW IT ALL ON COKE, AND PANICKED WHEN HE RAN OUT OF CASH SO HE GOT EVERYONE TOGETHER TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK

Every single person, from the writers to the actors, was tripped out on coke the entire time and everyone knows it.

Lucas actually didn't have that much to do with it. He gave them the rights and came up with the story, but he didn't oversee it day to day; he let them do their own thing. That's why he hates the Holiday Special, but loves Attack of the Clones.

That's really the heart of Jorge right there: When someone else makes a terrible film, he has no problem saying it's a piece of poo poo. When he himself makes a terrible film, he doubles down and insists that it's a masterpiece of cinema and it's his best film yet.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Throb Robinson posted:



Lightsabers held together by lightsabers. gently caress yea

Oh gently caress yeah!

Man, the EU is just a bunch of high school students sitting around in some guy's basement smoking weed and every now and again saying, "Duuuuuuuuude. You know what would be loving badass? A lightsaber that holds together TWO OTHER LIGHTSABERS!", isn't it? :(

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Wampus42 posted:

You meant Ssi-Ruuvi. I could link the wookieepedia entry, but it's been a pretty good morning and I don't want to ruin anybody's day.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ssi-ruu

This isn't the first time I've read something in this thread, immediately said "No loving way", looked it up on Wookiepedia and then immediately became depressed.

It also won't be the last. :smith:

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Nckdictator posted:

EU? You want some EU? here, take your EU.



http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rainboh

That's it. We need a goon to infiltrate Lucas Licensing, rise through the ranks through any means necessary until we have our inside man as Keeper of the Holocron Continuity Database. Then, he can eradicate everything stupid from canon (99% of the EU)

GOON PROJECT

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Harvey Mantaco posted:

In some scifi, cross species gently caress like it isn't a thing at all. I noticed there doesn't seem to be a lot of interspecies romance in SW, but it might be because I've mostly just seen the movies and all I remember is a bunch of different species getting hard for that twilik dancer at Jaba's. Does it ever happen? Is it frowned upon? Do people ever have species mingled children? If so, is it mostly similar species like Zabrak and Human or can super longneck Jedi council guy have a run at some sweet Ewok honey?

Gavin Darklighter is a literal goatfucker.

Also, Jabba was born with a genetic mutation that causes him to be sexually attracted to other species over his own (hence Leia's slave outfit), which earned him the ridicule of his fellow Hutts.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

yronic heroism posted:



Someone is going to a write an EU novel where a humanoid has sex with this.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
In honor of Liam Neeson's birthday today, I decided to watch Phantom Menace and my two biggest complaints are both about the ending:

1. Note to George: I don't give a poo poo about anything in the finale that isn't the lightsaber battle. Don't intersperse Jake Lloyd doing a thing or Jar Jar flatulence scenes in the middle of the lightsaber fight I waited all movie for, you cocks.

2. Having those stupid rotating loving forcefields is the stupidest, most video game-style bullshit I've ever seen in my life what the gently caress gently caress you George Lukeass you stupid dick

Other than that, it still sucks.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

thrawn527 posted:

So...this is apparently happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiKPjPLPLh4

Honestly, I'm a little surprised a Star Wars porn parody doesn't already exist. I have so many lines from the movies that could be turned into porn lines running through my head, I honestly don't know where to start.

I officially declare this to be of a higher canon than Attack of the Clones or anything written by Karen Traviss.

That being said, I'm going to state the obvious here and say that someone is going to be in a slave Leia costume in this movie and it will most likely be the least attractive actress in the film.

also why is Porkins in this

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

angrylinuxgeek posted:

heh, there is already controversy over the presentation of the blu-rays.

from the trailer here:

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/blog/article/234525/star-wars-the-complete-sagaexclusive-trailer.html



everybody flip out!!! :munch:

My first reaction was "They made changes to the original trilogy? Well I never!", but now that I think about it, that's actually pretty stupid.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Mister Roboto posted:

You have to admit the part on the bridge was neat as they're dodging lava.

No, I don't :colbert:

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Raptor1033 posted:

Can anyone tell me if my old VHS copies are an unfucked version? I just don't know if they're originals or if they have the first set of revisions, the pack has a copyright date of 1995.



1997 was the year of the first special editions, so you have a copy of the unaltered trilogy. Congratulations!

edit: Really shouldn't have sat on the reply page for 10 minutes, I guess.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

LLJKSiLk posted:

He was first named in the holiday special right?

Yeah, his first appearance was in the holiday special in that lovely cartoon Lumpy watches.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Captain von Trapp posted:

Remember that "What if?" comic where Darth Maul survived being de-torsoed and came back to fight Obi-Wan between trilogies? Honestly I enjoyed it. Since it was just a non-canon imaginary tale you didn't have to worry about what a preposterously dumb idea it was.

Right?

I love the way the article tries to justify it. "Uhh....The Force?"

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Shimrra Jamaane posted:



I'm more pissed that I have to wait 5 years to see a good movie in 3D (It's Empire)

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Van Dis posted:

It's cool how Anakin doesn't even appear on the poster beyond supposedly piloting that pod racer. That's a cool thing. In my opinion.

Isn't that a little ironic since Lucas keeps telling us that the entire saga (SIX MOVIES ONE STORY THERE ARE NO TRILOGIES ONLY THE SAGA) is just the story of Anakin Skywalker?

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Salsa McManus posted:

Has anyone seen/heard of The People vs George Lucas? I looked it up after seeing the shitstorm on Twitch about it. Apparently it is a documentary on George being a jackass, and fans being bitter?

I haven't heard of it, but I'd be more surprised if a documentary with that premise didn't end up getting made at some point.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
Whenever I think of Phantom Menace, I think of the Rifftrax bit where one of the guys says something like, "You know there was some guy who camped out for this thing for days and days in his Stormtrooper costume. And he's just sitting there in the theatre watching it, thinking 'Okay, well, maybe the next scene won't eat as much as this one.' But it does. Each scene EATS more and more than the ones before it."

That's how I'm going to feel during the 3D re-release in February.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
It's been too long since my last Anthony Daniels filmography Star Wars watchthrough, so I'm probably going to fix that starting this weekend. I usually watch both trilogies (even though there's obviously no trilogies and only the saga, thanks theforce.net) and the holiday special in chronological order, but I'm thinking I'll switch it up this time and watch them in production order. Also, I'll be more comprehensive this time.

- Episode IV: A New Hope, Theatrical
- Star Wars Holiday Special
- Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, Theatrical
- Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, Theatrical
- Ewok Adventure: Caravan of Courage
- Ewok Adventure: Battle for Endor
- Star Wars: Droids
- Star Wars: Ewoks
- The Great Heep
- Episode IV: A New Hope, 1997 Special Edition
- Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, 1997 Special Edition
- Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, 1997 Special Edition
- Episode I: The Phantom Menace
- Episode II: Attack of the Clones
- Star Wars: Clone Wars
- Episode IV: A New Hope, 2004 Special Edition
- Episode V: Empire Strikes Back, 2004 Special Edition
- Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, 2004 Special Edition
- Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
- Star Wars: The Clone Wars (film)
- Star Wars: The Clone Wars (series)
- Episode IV: A New Hope, 2011 Blu-Ray edition
- Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back, 2011 Blu-Ray edition
- Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, 2011 Blu-Ray edition

Am I missing anything? (Other than a life or the touch of a woman, obviously)

edit: Not as comprehensive as I could be, I guess. Added different OT versions.

edit 2: I'm a fuckup and listed the Holiday Special as "theatrical". Only in my dreams (and Jorge's worst nightmares).

Locutus of Bald fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Oct 26, 2011

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
Just finished watching the theatrical ANH and I have to know, the story about the guy whose job it was to press the button to blow up Yavin IV growing a conscience, muttering something along the lines of "Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds" or something, which gave Luke just enough time to blow up the Death Star, is that canon? Also, what's that guy's name?

Also gently caress you Chewbacca, you're not people, you don't get a medal. :colbert:

Well, onward to the Holiday Special. I'm watching with Rifftrax, obviously. I literally can't imagine doing so without riffs and I already have to suffer through the Droids and Ewoks animated series.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
I hope I don't offend everybody here when I state how much I'm not enjoying Caravan of Courage right now. I'm about 15 minutes in and I absolutely hate this boy actor (I hate him even more because I know I'm going to be rooting for his death, but this is a kid's movie with Ewoks, so it's all going to be false hope).

Also, Jorge why do you hate subtitles?

Powered Descent posted:

Yes, it's from the Death Star novel.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tenn_Graneet

drat you, Star Wars. Why can't I misremember something spergy about the EU for once?

edit: I take it all back. That Ewok who threw an ax into the handle of another ax owns hard.

edit 2: Just started Battle for Endor and holy poo poo that girl is an orphan what the gently caress kind of a kid's movie is this

Locutus of Bald fucked around with this message at 10:15 on Oct 30, 2011

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
Wait, if Wicket can speak Basic in Battle for Endor, which takes place prior to RotJ, why can't he talk to Leia? Or does his ability to speak limited Galactic Basic only apply when he's around Cindel?

edit: Oh, thanks Wikipedia. Apparently they weren't actually speaking Basic, it was just translated to English for the film.

Locutus of Bald fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Oct 30, 2011

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Mister Roboto posted:

You do realize you're putting in more effort into re-re-rewatching these than George himself has, right?

...Yes. :smith:

I'm absolutely positive that George is a cartoon supervillain who wakes up every morning and says, "How can I gently caress up my first three movies and piss off my fans today?" This is his only motivation and he probably doesn't even remember that these movies were made.

Unlike the Holiday Special, which haunts his nightmares.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

Mister Roboto posted:

None of them NEED fleshing out. I'm just saying that of all of them, this is probably low of the offensive list since it truly doesn't change anything, so it really does just become a character study instead of a true storyline-changing retcon.

That's true. Things like IG-88A taking over the Death Star's computers are far more stupid than this. (Which I remembered an hour ago as I watched the episode of Droids: The Animated Series where IG-88B shows up.)

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
You know the ending to 1984 where Winston ends up loving Big Brother? Pretty sure that's what's happened with me and the Ewoks.

I've hated them for years, but in the last two days I watched Caravan of Courage (only okay), Battle for Endor (objectively loving awesome) and now I'm on episode 2 of ABC's Ewoks series and now I kind of like them. It doesn't hurt that I also watched the complete series of Star Wars: Droids yesterday and that series was almost entirely poo poo.

A nerd who love Ewoks. A shameful nerd.

edit: Also, I feel like a massive sperglord because as I was watching Droids, their new master for the last couple of episodes is named Mungo Baobab. I immediately thought, "Gee, I wonder if he's related to that guy Ben Burtt cameoed as Menace". I've never been so ashamed of being right.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
I'm watching the second volume of the Clone Wars microseries and you know what I find ironic? The fact that they got a badass like Samuel L Jackson to play Mace Windu and don't have him do anything interesting or cool for 3 movies, but animated Mace Windu takes out entire an battalion of battle droids singlehandedly.

Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica
Hey guys, just wanted to ruin everyone's day by reminding you all that this picture exists and is canon:

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Locutus of Bald
Aug 20, 2009

by Debbie Metallica

RagnarokAngel posted:

I really hate that too because Lando's dialogue in ESB heavily implies it's never been tried before, since they want to test it first. And if it had been done in secret by some pirates or something, I'm sure Lando of all people would know something about it.

Well, you see, I believe the George Lucas Approved Retcon is that Vader says, "This facility is crude, but it should be adequate to freeze Skywalker for his journey to the Emperor" and so a regular facility would have done just fine, but Bespin wasn't up to date with technology from 20 years ago, I guess.

Although my favorite George Lucas Approved Retcon is that R2D2's rocket boosters (the ones which enabled him to fly during The Clone Wars/PT) were damaged between episodes 3 and 4 and since R2 is an older model, the necessary repair parts were too rare and hence he was never able to fly again.

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