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In late March of 2007, forums poster liquorhead created the Geeky Star Wars Questions Megathread, to ask a few simple questions about a popular film trilogy you may have heard of. To no one's surprise, the thread quickly spiralled out of control. Three years and two threads later, four hundred pages of posts by dozens of hopeless nerds have made this the ultimate repository of everything you were never going to ask about Star Wars. The first thread, link courtesy of Arioch: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2393061 (Archives) The second thread is here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3195772&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1 What else do goons have to say about Star Wars? I'm glad you asked! Here is a selection of other threads about Star Wars. Courtesy of the mighty WampaLord, Let's Play of Knights of the Old Republic Thrawn527 Studied the art of our world, and came up with a most effective tactic to destroy our love for the EU: Let Us Read Terrible Star Wars Books For You This thread will continue where its predecessors began, answering a few pages of fresh new questions before spending the next two hundred or so talking about how much we hate George Lucas, Karen Traviss, and Starkiller. Before asking your questions, take some time to read this post, which contains the answers to most of the questions and arguments that inevitably come up every five pages. For any questions not covered by the OP, an entire legion of hopeless nerds waits for a chance to prove that we haven't wasted our lives. Before we discuss anything else, a note on the purpose of this thread. In the last ten years, it's become really easy to complain about Star Wars. Frankly, a lot of things have been added to the canon which many people here do not like. Every thread so far has eventually devolved into pages and pages of bitching, about George Lucas, about the EU, about the Prequels, about Starkiller. Clearly, there's lots to complain about. Spending ten pages on a discussion of how much Star Wars sucks is the exact opposite of what this thread should be. Yes, there are reasons to complain, and there's no way this thread or any thread after it will be complaint free. But if complaining is all we can do, then there's no reason for this thread to exist at all. Important events after the movies: -The Rebel Alliance takes control of the galaxy and is rebranded as the New Republic -Han and Leia get married and pop out three kids -Thrawn, the last awesome bad guy in Star Wars, very nearly wins the galaxy back for the Empire around the time Leia’s first kids are born. Luke meets a kickass redhead, Mara Jade, who wants to kill him -Luke eventually reforms the Jedi Order, establishing an academy on Yavin 4. All three of the Solo kids eventually join -Luke marries the kickass redhead who wanted to kill him. Luke is a stone Jedi pimp. -The Yuuzhan Vong, a creepy race from another galaxy, invade the galaxy and almost kick everyone’s asses because of a plot device that makes them “invisible” in the Force or something. In the process, they kill Chewbacca by dropping a moon on him. Defeated by Jedi Ex Machina. Anakin Solo dies. -Some stupid poo poo happens involving space bug hives and the Chiss -The New Republic signs a treaty with the Imperial Remnant, forming the Galactic Alliance -Corellia decides to rebel against the Galactic Alliance, sparking the Second Galactic Civil War -Jacen Solo is seduced to the Dark Side by “Darth” Lumiya, becoming Darth Caedus, takes over the Galactic Alliance. Caedus kills Mara Jade, Luke kills Lumiya, and Jaina Solo kills Jacen. -Admiral Daala, one of the more prominent villains of the EU, becomes the head of state of the Galactic Alliance. Charges Luke with dereliction of duty for “allowing” Jacen to fall. Luke is exiled. -Luke and his son Ben go on a quest to figure out why Jacen fell. At the same time, Jedi start randomly going insane. Daala, being the wonderful person she is, decides to freeze the crazed Jedi in carbonite. Han and Leia go looking for answers. Timeline note: The current batch of EU novels takes place in the year 43 ABY, that is, after the Battle of Yavin in Star Wars: A New Hope. The plucky heroes you remember from the original movies are in their sixties, and still starring in these books for some reason. Books in the EU: We tend to get a lot of questions from people new to the Expanded Universe who want to know what books they should read. Everyone has their own opinions about what’s good and what isn’t. About the only thing we can all agree on is that everyone should read the Thrawn Trilogy first. However, there are certain series that are particularly important to the EU, because of the events that occur within. Compiled here is a brief list of important series: -X-Wing -Thrawn Trilogy -Jedi Academy Trilogy -Hand of Thrawn -New Jedi Order -Dark Nest -Legacy of the Force -Fate of the Jedi (in progress) PLEASE NOTE: The series in this list are important to the continuity of the EU. That does not mean that all, or even any of the books in a particular series are any good. The New Jedi Order series spans 27 books, written by numerous authors including the best and the worst Star Wars has to offer. Apart from paying attention to the series’ above, it’s generally best to just look for books by the better authors. There are many authors writing for Star Wars, and not all of them are good. In fact, some of them are abysmally bad. There are a few diamonds in the rough though. The Goons’ list of good Star Wars authors is as follows: Timothy Zahn – Responsible for the Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire, Dark Force Rising, The Last Command), which is widely considered to be the gold standard of EU novels. Also responsible for the Hand of Thrawn duology and four standalone novels. Introduced a number of important characters to the EU, notably the Solo twins (as embryos/newborns), and Mara Jade. Very much a fan favorite. Matthew Stover – Responsible for a handful of standalone novels, including the novelisation of Revenge of the Sith. Which was arguably better than the movie. Michael A Stackpole – Wrote the Rogue Squadron books, which are generally considered to be fan favorites. Has eight EU novels to his name, most of which revolve around X-Wing pilots. Drew Karpyshin – Novel writing credits include the Darth Bane novels. Also senior writer for the much loved video game, Knights of the Old Republic Aaron Allston – Responsible for four books under the “X-Wing” header. One of three writers responsible for the Legacy of the Force series. The only good writer involved in the Legacy of the Force series. Karen Traviss – For the Republic Commando books prior to Order 66 and NOTHING ELSE. Michael Reaves - Responsible for the Coruscant Nights series, which gets some love around here. As mentioned above, the EU has more than a few less than stellar authors among its contributors. Many are just mediocre to poor, but there are a few that are terrible enough to be worthy of special mention: Kevin J. Anderson – Author of every Star Wars story in which the plot revolves around yet another superweapon. Troy Denning – Responsible for the travesty known as Dark Nest. One third of the collective responsible for the mess known as Legacy of the Force. Karen Traviss – For anything other than the Republic Commando books prior to Order 66. Also, for her irrational hatred of Jedi and willingness to alter continuity and horribly mangle established characters to prove her ill-conceived notion that the Jedi are jackbooted fascists. Hilariously insane. Bonus happy ending: no longer writes Star Wars books. See below for hilarious explanation.  WARNINGThere is a creature on the internet. It calls itself "SuperShadow". It has a website, which I will not post here. It spends its time posting various pieces of "insider information" about Star Wars projects, be they upcoming, in-production, or completely mythical. This includes claiming to have scripts for Episodes 7, 8 and 9. As should be obvious from the previous sentence, SuperShadow, also known as Mickey Suttle, is completely full of poo poo. Some people believe he is one of the most epic trolls on the internet. Some people believe that he is touched in the brain. It is more likely that he is just a socially warped fuckstain who gets off on posting bullshit and calling it fact, and claiming to be close, personal friends with George Lucas. Do not believe anything attributed to him. Do not take a single word posted on his website as anything other than complete fabrication. In fact, just don't visit his site. Ever. That's why I'm not posting a link, I don't want to encourage it. We don't want to give him the traffic. He's just a twisted little attention whore with no grounding in reality, and needs to be forgotten so he can simply disappear from the internet. FAQ In the old threads, we had a number of questions and debates come up more than once, often many times. For those of us who followed the threads for three years, seeing the same questions or stupid arguments repeated every few pages became something of an aggravation. In an attempt to mitigate that occurring in this thead (even though it will anyway), I will provide the answers to those questions. This includes situations wherein it was not a question, but an argument, because for every argument we’ve had, the conclusion has been the same all hundred and seventeen times we’ve argued it. With so many books, movies, games and cartoons, there are a lot of contradictions. How do I know what to consider canon? Some would argue that, because it’s all fiction, you can consider whatever you like to be canon, and ignore as much of the terrible, terrible poo poo that’s been done with this universe as you see fit. For those who want a little more order in their Star Wars experience, Lucasarts has provided a handy guideline. The following levels of canon go from highest to lowest: - G-Canon: George Lucas Canon. The six movies, novelisations of the six movies (unless they contradict the movies), and anything that George Lucas happened to say while drunk on expensive hooch. - T-Canon: Television Canon. This pretty much just consists of the CGI Clone Wars series, including the movie that started it. Will also include the live action series that’s supposedly in the works. - C-Canon: Continuity Canon. Anything made relatively recently that doesn’t fit into G or T Canon. Includes books, games, comics and non-theatrical films. C-Canon stuff sometimes gets put into movies, making it G-Canon (Example: Coruscant) - S-Canon: Secondary Canon. Anything considered too “old” to be C-Canon. Consists mainly of materials produced in the early days of Star Wars books and comics, before a concerted effort was made to maintain continuity. Can be used or ignored as current and future creators see fit. - N-Canon. Not Canon. What-if stories like the Infinities comics, as well as deleted scenes from movies and projects that were abandoned in development Why all the Karen Traviss hate? The Republic Commando books are pretty good. Maybe she has a point about the Jedi, I’ve seen them act like space-fascists in the books a few times. First of all, look at the covers to those books in which you saw the Jedi acting like that. Chances are you’ll see Karen Traviss’ name. The selfish, fanatical and borderline evil behavior of which Traviss accused the Jedi occurred only in books she wrote. She deliberately wrote established characters in ways that contradicted their prior appearances, up to and including Luke Skywalker, in order to “prove” her point. In her novelisation of The Clone Wars she wrote at least one scene in such a manner that it didn’t even resemble the scene in the movie on which it was based. Not only is she willing to directly contradict established canon to make the Star Wars universe into what she thinks it is, she has openly stated that she has never read, and will never read any Star Wars novels. At all. She skims plot synopses if it’s necessary for something she’s writing. She doesn’t even pretend to care about established continuity, and throws a psychotic hissy fit if you call her out on it. Anyone who questioned her on the Star Wars forums were banned. She mused in a blog about tearing out the throats of those who criticised her. All of this, of course, has since been deleted, but several people, including veterans of the old threads (not me, unfortunately), have some of the choicest bits saved. Fortunately, Lucasarts very recently called her out on some of her latest continuity-twisting. Apparently Traviss finds the notion of colouring inside the lines distasteful, because she has declared that she will no longer be writing Star Wars novels. Imperial Commando 2 was to be her last, until she decided to quit without writing it, which she announced on her blog before informing LucasArts. Karen Traviss is classy. How long was Luke on Dagobah? It seems like he learned how to be a Jedi in a week or so. It certainly does seem that way, and the pacing of The Empire Strikes Back has led pretty much everyone here to confusion on that topic at some point in our lives. In reality, Luke was on Dagobah for three or four months, which is the amount of time Han, Leia and Chewie spent running, hiding, and being prisoners on Bespin. Is there really a Light and Dark Side to the Force? How can an energy field made by all living things be so black and white? There are multiple theories within the Star Wars universe regarding the nature of the Force. There are, in fact, those who believe that the Force is neither light nor dark, it just is, and the people who use it colour it with their intentions. There are many of us out here in the real world who think that explanation makes sense. Unfortunately, Lucasarts has stated outright that the Force has a Light and Dark Side. It really is so black and white, because George Lucas said so. How could Han make the Kessel run in “under 12 parsecs”? A parsec is a unit of distance, not time. Kessel is situated extremely close to the Maw, an extremely dangerous cluster of black holes. The Kessel run is usually an 18 parsec trip, with extra distance taken to avoid the black holes. Han’s boast of making the run in 12 parsecs referred to the Falcon’s ability to fly closer to the cluster without being destroyed, thus taking a more direct route. It is assumed that Han attributed this feat to his ship’s speed, or at least the power of his engines. How much time passed between the movies? In chronological order: -Attack of the Clones takes place approximately 10 years after The Phantom Menace -Revenge of the Sith takes place approximately 3 years after Attack of the Clones -A New Hope takes place 19 years after Revenge of the Sith -The Empire Strikes Back takes place approximately 3 years after A New Hope -Return of the Jedi takes place approximately 1 year after The Empire Strikes Back What makes you so sure the Empire was evil? It looks to me like they were a legitimate government bringing order to a dangerous galaxy. The rebels were clearly just a bunch of terrorists and religious fanatics trying to take the galaxy from its rightful rulers  This doesn't come up much around here anymore. Really, only one Imperial sympathiser posts regularly (don't ever change, Mad Hamish). Still, the question gets asked, so here are some things the Empire and its founder did: -Engineered a fake war in order to maneuver into power, costing billions of lives that never needed to be lost -Murdered an entire order of peace-loving superheroes who just wanted the galaxy to be a nice place -Blew up a populated planet that was known for its nonviolent, progressive society of nice people -Considered non-human species to be second class citizens at best, farm animals at worse. This includes the enslavement of entire races, such as the Wookiees -Blew up a planet -Carried on a twenty-five year campaign of propaganda and misinformation designed to keep its populace ignorant of anything that was not in the Empire’s best interests -Maintained a policy of rule by fear, as espoused by Grand Moff Tarkin, one of the highest ranking officers of the Empire until his death. -Blew up a loving planet Even if that list were much shorter, the movies depicted the Empire as cartoonishly evil. Given that the movies are the highest form of canon, if they depict the Empire as evil, then the Empire is evil. Anyone who pursues this argument is destined for disappointment. How can you say the Jedi just wanted the galaxy to be a nice place? They were a bunch of goose-stepping, baby-stealing religious nutjobs who would wave a lightsaber in the face of anyone who disagreed them and gladly led a SLAVE ARMY to their deaths in a pointless war! See above, re: Karen Traviss. If lightsabers were so effective at blocking blaster bolts, why didn’t people start using slugthrowers, or multi-shot blasters, which couldn’t be so easily blocked? Simple answer: Who expects to end up fighting a Jedi? Not so simple answer: Even if the Jedi can’t block a slug, or multiple blaster bolts at once or a flamethrower, they still have the prescience and the reflexes needed to get the gently caress out of the way. Blocking isn’t their only option. In the movies, I can think of four distinct parties that successfully killed Jedi: Sith, droids, Jango Fett and clones. The Sith killed the Jedi with lightsabers, so that’s moot. Several Jedi fell to the droids on Geonosis in Episode 2, and the droids were using blasters. Same goes for the clones in Episode 3. Now, in both cases, the aggressors had the advantage of numbers, and the clones had the advantage of shooting the Jedi in the back. Jango Fett, on the other hand, killed a Jedi Master single-handedly, using blaster pistols. Conclusion: If you’re good enough to kill a Jedi in single combat, then you can probably do it with a blaster. Of course, HK-47 recommends using poisons and explosives, and he probably has a point. But that brings us back to the simple answer: Who expects to fight a Jedi? What's the deal with stormtroopers? The clones were completely badass in in the prequels. How come they can't hit the broad side of a sandcrawler just twenty years later? And why does their armor suck? First and foremost: the stormtroopers in the original trilogy are not clones. The clones had a shortened lifespan, making them all very dead by the time of Ep4. Stormtroopers are conscripts, recruited and trained from subject worlds. As for their effectiveness, in most situations where we've seen stormtroopers fighting, they've been up against main characters, all of whom were wearing Plot Armor. This has been explained away in a couple of ways. In Ep4, the stormtroopers were likely ordered not to actually shoot the escaping rebels, just make them think they had escaped and not been released, so they could be tracked. Stormtrooper armor is entirely effective against conventional blasters. Unfortunately, escalation happens in a galaxy far, far away just as it does on Earth. Anyone expecting to be fighting stormtroopers packs a heavy blaster, designed to be deadly even in the face of body armor. As for Endor, that battle suffers the problem of their enemies looking like teddy bears. The Ewoks had the home turf advantage, and were basically fighting a guerilla war. Even so, due to the Ewoks' inferior technology, the Imperials were winning until Chewie got into an AT-ST and blindsided them. Where do you find all of this information? The combined brainpower of numerous dorks pondering and answering these questions for more than two years. Also, Wookiepedia: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page If the children of Jedi are likely to be highly Force sensitive, why are Jedi celibate? Shouldn't they be encouraged to marry and breed to strengthen the Order in future generations? Marriage is not necessarily required for breeding. To wit: Trans-Angeles posted:Hit it, and quit it. - Jedi Code As before let me know if you think something should be added to the OP. It is still a lot of information to keep track of, and I still have ADD. UPDATE Superstar poster Jervas Dudley has kindly fulfilled the request for a complete list of the many generations of starwars.jpg: 1992:  The Lost City of the Jedi 1993:  Queen of the Empire 1995:  Darksaber  Assault at Selonia 1996:  Shadows of the Empire 2002  Enemy Lines II: Rebel Stand  The Envoy from Star Wars: Jedi vs. Sith 2010:  The Force Unleashed 2 haitfais fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jan 16, 2011 |
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Flagrant Abuse posted:Another good book series that should be put in the OP is Coruscant Nights. Four books (only three published so far) with, for the most part, minimal appearances by the major canon characters, and even fewer by random background characters from the movies. Essentially film noir, as a book. Added Reaves to the author list.
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Azzmo posted:I hate to say it, Esroc, because you seem like a good guy but: run. Run from these forums! You will be pointed to so many plot holes and problems in your beloved Star Wars EU that shame will replace adoration and your heart will wither into the little charred husk that the rest of us have. I worry about you. Jervas Dudley posted:The EU (chronologically): Adding this to the OP.
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Residency Evil posted:I think I know the answer to this question, but is there ANY way that we'll see episodes 7-9? Or at least a followup set a few years later? I know Lucas has said no, but he does love money a whole lot. The barely-even-conceived episodes 7-9 were compressed into Return of the Jedi, because Lucas was tired of those Star Wars. thrawn527 posted:I'm wondering how long we can get away with this line of conversation before Mad Hamish starts cracking skulls. I'm surprised he hasn't shown up yet. I was even nice to him in the OP.
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thrawn527 posted:EU stands for Expanded Universe. And if you'd like a Glove of Darth Vader nostalgia trip, feel free to check out the Terrible Star Wars Books Thread. Those books were the reason it was started. I was just waiting for a link to show up, because I was too lazy to go looking for it myself. Wampalord posted:If we're talking about thread pimping, can my Let's Play of Knights of the Old Republic be added there as well? Every time it comes up in the thread I feel like chiming in. Consider this done also.
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sniper4625 posted:Ahem. Okay, so I'm lazy AND unobservant. Go easy on me, I just passed a kidney stone.
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DougieC posted:What makes you think that a futuristic faster-than-light space fighter doesn't have facilities if you want to take a poo poo? That said, Jedi often use a Force Trance to while away the days or weeks spent alone in hyperspace. The equivalent to going into hibernation, slowing down their vital functions etcetera, which means they could go a long time without pooping.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:IIRC, either Yoda or Mace Windu was the Jedi Grandmaster during the prequels, it's just not said aloud in the movies. Yoda was the Grandmaster in the prequels. The criticism of Luke being Grandmaster is not because he pulled the title out of his rear end, but because he gave it to himself. Edit: VVV Goddammit. That can't be unsaid now. You've ruined everything. haitfais fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Aug 24, 2010 |
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Edit: ^^^ Yours makes more sense.Ringo Star Get posted:Okay so I just realized this. In Empire Strikes Back the Falcon attaches to the back of the super structure on a Star Destroyer. Then Vader hosts the meeting of the bounty hunters on his Super Star Destroyer. After the Falcon detaches and floats off with the garbage, they enter hyperspace. Also leaving in the garbage is Boba Fett. Does this mean that Boba Fett knew where the Falcon was and transferred his ship to the Star Destroyer? Pretty much. He predicted what Solo would be likely to do, and outmaneuvered him.
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Aug 25, 2010 06:58
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Chairman Capone posted:The Mon Cal history is one of the many EU things that got messed up by the prequels. The original story, in which the Mon Cals had no contact with the galaxy prior to the movies, was retconned into Imperial propaganda designed to make one of the more respectable nonhuman species into a bunch of backwater fishmen who had never been out into the galaxy before the Empire came along.
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Dalaram posted:Actually,I quite enjoyed those stories. It generated more sympathy for Anakin than the entire PT did. Also, it showed that even though Darth Vader was a total loving badass, he also cared about the people under his command. (When he wasn't strangling them) Well, of course she would portray Vader in a sympathetic light. He killed Jedi.
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Casimir Radon posted:Now why hasn't there been porn of a girl in the slave bikini or with cinnamon bun hair? Obviously they couldn't call it anything close to Star Wars if they didn't want to start shelling out legal fees. I think there was some cheapy anime porn but I'd never watch it. Do you honestly believe that it doesn't already exist?
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Doc Hawkins posted:The Flashman novels are based on a character from someone else's book. Myths propogate and multiply, as people come up with new stories of what Coyote did, or Roland, or Rama, or whatever. Not exactly how I'd say it, but close enough. Write it for yourself. You don't have to show it to anyone if you think it's poo poo.
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Loopyface posted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightsaber#Lightsaber_Resistant_Materials To elaborate, lightsabers can be modified to use a cyclical power system alternating between two crystals to prevent it from shorting out when submerged. As pictures above, Kit Fisto's lightsaber works that way for obvious reasons. Anakin/Vader's lightsabers were always waterproof as well, because he loved tinkering with them.
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Kingtheninja posted:That's what I figured, but I can't figure out why it hasn't been added to the dvds or upcoming blu ray release. I feel like that would sell a lot of copies. The same reason it was cut from the film in the first place. It adds nothing and fucks up the pacing. Same reason we don't want the lightsaber-building scene put back into Return of the Jedi.
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Kingtheninja posted:Tell that to what's his face in the cantina, very small amount of blood which could easily be a result of inefficient cauterisation attached to that lightsaber wound... Fixed that for you.
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Kenshirou posted:Does Order 66 bother the poo poo out of anyone else? The idea makes sense but not the way it was handled, and Cody in particular bugs me because it's like welp gently caress all the time we've spent together, time to die Obi-wan. I also don't get why Bail Organa is allowed to leave by Appo... Not to say that it isn't poorly executed, because it is, but: a) The clones development included a poo poo ton of behaviour programming. It wasn't exactly hardwired into their brains, but obeying the Chancellor was pretty much like breathing to them, even the cool ones. b) Same reason Palpatine waited almost 20 years to dissolve the senate, I suspect. He probably figured that arresting or killing Organa, a popular senator from a pacifist world, would have a detrimental effect on Palpatine's popularity, and he needed to be as universally beloved as possible in the early days of a fledgling empire.
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Nucleic Acids posted:I know there's no monolithic, correct interpretation of Star Wars and it's fictional universe Sure there is. It changes every time Lucas farts, but there is an official "correct" version.
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ScottyJSno posted:I was just reading the wookieepedia and found this... Couldn't tell you whose rear end that idea was pulled out of. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Tython haitfais fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Oct 15, 2010 |
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Barudak posted:I was just going more for a fresh reboot angle. One that in particular would have the benefit of starting with a complete set of films 1-6 with rather than having to adjust to 3 films being added decades after the first 3. This would only make things worse. We would all be better off if they had just let Star Wars be Star Wars. If the special editions had done nothing but fix visual errors and improve picture quality. Basically, if the last fifteen years of Star Wars movies had just not happened, that'd be about perfect.
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mojo1701a posted:Is it the simplistic black-and-white/good guys vs. bad guys nature of Star Wars that attracts these kind of people? That's the popular hypothesis. Add an increased likelihood of poor socialisation (neckbeard shut-in variety), and you have a perfect recipe for well-reasoned political discussion.
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:That cruiser is pretty well designed, they actually partially covered those shield generators. They're not shield generators, they're communication towers. The timing of that line in Return of the Jedi is coincidental.
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clueless posted:Why doesn't he just give the guys who do the Old Republic cinematic trailers, and the crew that did the trailers for The Force Unleashed 2 a decent budget, and just let them make 3 cgi movies? That doesn't mean they were good. Five minutes just isn't long enough to fit both generic over the top action AND a terrible story.
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Aratoeldar posted:Anyone know why she was giving the one finger salute? Because it was funny.
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SeanBeansShako posted:ESB Hans gear is pretty drat cool if you ask me, but I think the ROTJ Duster is equally kick rear end. Han gets the best threads, overall. Also, the typo in your post and another post somewhere in the past are kind of making me wish his name was Hans Solo.
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BonHair posted:Didn't Leia get double adopted for some reason to explain the memories? So that after Padme dies, she goes to Joe Antilles for a month before the Organas adopt her. Still doesn't make any goddamn sense. A few months won't change anything unless baby Leia had prodigious capacity for recognition and memory.
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Doc Hawkins posted:cool when in the movie did they say that I must have missed it It's possible to infer that, since Vader's fighter was clearly larger and heavier, and contained the Emperor's cabana boy, that it might have better shields and armour than a normal TIE.
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Duckman2008 posted:Darth Vader had this awesome shield called plot armor "I have it. My father has it...my sister has it."
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Epi Lepi posted:Just watched Empire again last night. I know this has been asked before but what's the timeline supposed to be for that movie? It feels like the Han and Leia parts are supposed to be within the same day or two, but it seems like Luke was training on Dagobah for much longer. The answer is in the OP.
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SeanBeansShako posted:He killed a tribe of Bedouin Arabs then? Not just the men. The women...and children!
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SeanBeansShako posted:You sure? that photograph isn't well lighted. Somebody else help us with this. He doesn't look a thing like Hamill.
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mojo1701a posted:I like to assume it was more of a, "Yay! People are paying attention to me!" Pretty much this. The answer to this question is that Jar Jar is an idiot and does stupid things. Nothing involving Jar Jar should ever require more thought than that.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Out of curiosity, about 15 years ago or so I took more notice that there used to be all those swap meet things that would show up at malls with people selling just various collectibles all over the place. You'd almost ALWAYS have someone with various sort of movie memorabilia and among these items would be $20-40 copies of xeroxed and authentic 'scripts' for Star Wars 1, 2 and 3 well before they actually came out. They had titles like, "Rise of the Empire, Fall of the Republic, etc..." Regardless of how they compared to the actual films, they were fake.
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JediTalentAgent posted:I do have to admit, I actually do like the space battle in the start or ROTS, despite it being cluttered to hell and back. If Episode 1 or 2 had started out that good, it would have instantly grabbed the attention of the audience more than a tea party or a slow landing craft would have. R2D2 levels up! R2D2 learned "Cut"!
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Starsnostars posted:I always feel bad for Grievous when people say he was given no back story or introduction, he's a villain on the same level as Admiral Piett or if you're feeling really generous, Grand Moff Tarkin and no one gives them a hard time for not being properly introduced. If Grievous were half as classy as Tarkin or Piett, we wouldn't need a backstory for him. Instead he was just Episode 3's way of reminding us that the prequels were little more than lovely Saturday morning cartoons. If I had to pick a prequel movie, I think I'd have to go with Episode 1. Not that I think it's a good movie in any way, but Phantom Menace has the duel with Darth Maul, accompanied by John Williams' "Duel of the Fates". Those are pretty much the only two things I like about the whole prequel trilogy.
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NeonTurtle posted:Not to mention that even a 10 year old slave living on a hutt-controlled planet located in the rear end in a top hat of the galaxy had heard of the Jedi and their signature weapon. And that was before Anakin and Obi-Wan became interstellar celebrities.
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thrawn527 posted:And don't forget, Tarkin mentioned that "Fear will keep them in line." Clearly that means the Empire wasn't handing out government cheese to keep people happy. The plan was to have people scared shitless as a way of controlling them. Even without the Death Star anymore (for a period of time) they still had massive Star Destroyers, that were so beyond overkill that fear is the only thing that justifies their size. I'm honestly surprised it took you this long to mention this. Really, the whole point of Tarkin's presence in ANH was to serve as the embodiment of Imperial evil. He is one of the highest ranking officers in the Empire; poo poo, he even tells Vader what to do. When he says "fear will keep the local systems in line", that's not rhetoric. That's company policy.
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Ok, so I've realised that the OP's list of important events after the movies is probably out of date. Unfortunately, my familiarity with the EU comes primarily from this thread. I'm putting out a call for aid. If anyone wants to redo that list to be a)more accurate and b)up to date, I would be delighted and will add it to the OP with credit to the kind poster willing to go to the effort. And, of course, if anything else is wrong with the information in the OP, please let me know. haitfais fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Dec 31, 2010 |
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Pyroclastic posted:World War II had thirty times as many mobilized personnel than the stated Clone Army numbers (although some authors have tried to make that number more realistic, Traviss seems to have a pretty firm grip on EU canon now). Not to worry, Traviss quit writing Star Wars novels over a year ago.
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spaceships posted:Is there a Dan Abnett of Star Wars? I've been going to the library to get my Star Wars fix, but I haven't found an author who consistently writes awesome poo poo. There are several in the OP.
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