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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

SaucyPants posted:

Cool site, scales are pretty much great for everything, fingers,ears,solos EVERYTHING. but don't jump through that site trying to learn everything. I suggest starting with the Major scale and the minor pentatonic and really focus on learning those and how they sound. How well do you know your fretboard? Once your comfortable with those try learning the major scale with a fifth string root and learn the major scale played on a single string. This will also help you to visualize how the fretboard is laid out.

Dickeye what kind of chords do you know? open chords? major and minor barre chords on the fifth string? sixth string?

what makes a major chord major?

A major chord is comprised of 3 notes. A root a third and a fifth. a minor chord is a root a flat third and a fifth.

is that the kind of stuff your interested in knowing? let me know or ask me some specific questions and I'll try help you out. I am supposed to be writing a paper which means I am more likely just playing guitar all night.

I'm gonna be honest with you here, and I don't mean to sound dismissive or dick(eye)ish or whatever: I know how to play power chords and like...three open chords. I know how to play a major barre chord on the fifth and sixth string, just because hell you're just palying a power chord and then some.

Here's the kicker though: I'm OK with that. I'm learning so I can play in a punk band. Power chords are pretty much all I need. I would like to learn to play by ear, because it'd be nice to be able to learn some more obscure poo poo that I can't find tabs for, but anything beyond that is pretty much a bonus.

tldr: I want to work on ear training first and foremost, everything else is extra

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

SaucyPants posted:

don't worry I wanted to get a feel as for what you wanted to do and what level you were at before I throw too much at you.

work on the major scale if you want to help your ear and just keep trying. I recommend some Hi-Standard as beginning ear training.

I picked up guitar in the first place because I wanted to play in a punk band ( and still do) I just fell in love with all the things I could do with it. Punk turned to Rockabilly and Rockabilly turned to Country,Blues and Jazz. If your happy with what your doing stick with it you can always expand later on if you want to.

Got a link, and is it free? College is putting a serious dent in my funds.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Hi-Standard? I assumed it was a site or something

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

SaucyPants posted:

oh sorry no Hi-Standard is just a punk band that has fairly simple songs and are a good band to start learning songs to. I am sure you have lots as well I was just suggesting a band I used.

Oh, that Hi-Standard. Gotcha.

I've been using the Ramones and Ramones-core bands, personally. Simple musically, but fast enough that I have to work to stay in time with the music

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Epi Lepi posted:

I would appreciate this too, this whole discussion made me pop in The Ramones Road to Ruin album and I was able to figure out the first song myself which made me feel cool, but I couldn't figure out the next one which made me feel less cool...

On a similar note, I'm willing to put money on the first song on Leave Home having an A and a D

e: Called it. D A G. This isn't really fair though, that's every pop-punk song ever written pretty much

e2: Guitar Pro owns. It's nice just having it written out in regular notation and tabs, and the midi is nice. Plus the fact that someone actually labelled the separate tracks with which dude plays them is awesome

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Dec 5, 2010

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Here's a question, for people who know how to use Guitar Pro: How do I have more than one chord in a bar? I'm trying to tab out a song to see if the tab I found is right, but I can't figure out how to put in a bunch of eighth notes

e: Now I've got it. WHat the gently caress

e2: How do I change the tempo of this bitch? It's the right chords, but it's way too slow

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Dec 5, 2010

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

SaucyPants posted:

I IV V is probably the most important thing you could ever learn, especially if you want to play the Ramones. Blitzkrieg Bop was the first song I ever learned.

is there a thread to ask questions on acoustic guitars or do I just pick a random guitar thread and throw it in one?

My first was The KKK Took My Baby Away, because it has a rest every so often and it gave me time to switch chords

I've actually been learning Teenage Bottlerocket songs lately, which are similar but actually a bit easier. They're faster, but the rhythm part is always simple as hell, and they're all very similar, to the point where the joke at practice is to play a D chord a million times and claim you wrote a new TBR song.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
See, I've got the relative pitch thing down. It's knowing what that first chord is that kills me, because now that I get the I-IV-V and I-V-IV thing (depending on the song!) it's even easier to put it together if I could figure out that first loving chord

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Porn Thread posted:

Not every song, punk or otherwise, has a I IV V or I V IV.

And if you really had relative pitch down, it would be easy to find the first chord. You could play any random chord or note and, using your random guess as a reference pitch, hear what the first chord is.

Well, herp my derp

(Also the majority of what I'm working on now is I IV V or I V IV, which is why I said it)

e: While I wrote this post I actually figured out a song that I've been moaning about for a couple weeks now. poo poo yeah.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
To continue the trend of me posting and sounding like a 'tard:

Guitar Pro has basically saved my life because the few times that I know the chords and just need to work out where they go I can write it out and listen to it and also because gently caress yeah actual notation, I can read that!

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Program that lets you tab out songs, with multiple instrument tracks, and play them back with a midi so you can see if you've got it right

It's not really that amazing, but I love it anyway. Tabbed out a Teen Idols song to make sure I was doing it right and I was.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Different strokes I guess. I know the chords to a song, and I'm working on writing it out in GP now. I'm getting there slowly but surely

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Philthy posted:

This was sort of what I was referring to when I mentioned smash your guitar. He appears to really not care to treat his instruments with any sort of care. He plays the hell out of them, wearing them down on purpose to give off a different sound than what might normally come from a pristine guitar. It's really quite cool. Maybe it's just your normal punk rock thing to do, I don't know.

Kinda. Punk is less about technical ability or amazing sounds, so it really doesn't matter if it's in pristine shape because you're probably going to be playing with distortion anyway.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

crm posted:

How often do you change strings? Is there anything to look for as to when they need to be changed?

Also, what are good replacement strings? Any good guides to the different types?

Change them when they start to look dirty/sound like rear end even when in tune.

e: Unrelated, but I've been playing with my amp a lot more since I've been home, and I'm loving it. I don't know why I didn't use it before. Who cares that it's a piece of junk, it makes loud noises.

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Jan 4, 2011

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

cpach posted:

Nahdrav:
Yamaha Pacificas are pretty reasonable instruments, and I think you'd probably enjoy playing it a lot. The cost on the plane is the only thing that would give me some pause, but I'd vote that it's probably worth it. I don't have a good idea of what it'd cost, but it'd be worth looking into the cost of shipping it separately compared to the airline.

Also if you weren't flying, I'd probably advise you that a hardshell case isn't probably critical for an inexpensive solidbody guitar. And c'mon--strings start at like $3.

Strings are cheap, but if it's been sitting a while he's probably going to want to get it set up properly, or at least have someone look at it to tell him what if anything is wrong.

e: Here's a question: How do I check my intonation?

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jan 6, 2011

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
I can sing a handful of songs while I play, and it's a combination of muscle memory, knowing the timing in relation to where I am in the lyrics, and not having to keep a hard rhythm.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Koth posted:

I almost finished the telecaster build I posted about a few pages back. I'm just waiting for the tuners to arrive so I can set it up and play it. Here are a few pictures of it:









As someone who loathes teles, that's loving awesome.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
I'm tryig to learn to string my Strat right now!

It fuckign sucks. I hate it. I hate it so much. You know the computer's lines in I Have No Mouth...? Yeah. Like that. I hosed up two high E's, a low E, and the B. The B is strung, but it's strung badly. It overlaps, it looks like poo poo, I need to redo it. I need strings. I need a good loving resource that's more specific than "leave slack" to learn from, too.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Philthy posted:

That is all you need to do. Honestly. After a few changes you'll have an idea how much slack you want to use. It doesn't have to be absolutely 100% perfect, you just may need to tune it more often as the strings settle.

I posted this in CineD's chat thread to, but there's a problem with the way I'm leaving slack, because the few strings that I've managed to get on there have been in the wrong octave.

Like, low E and A? Those sound similar, but then I play the D (which was already on there) and it's a huge difference and doesn't sound right at all.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
After an hour and a half, only one pack of strings (!), and a couple of well-placed swear words, i'm done. I think part of my problem last night was that my D was out of tune, so it sounded different to start, because now I have zero problems. The only problems I had were A) keeping the high strings still so I could get them winding (I just had someone else hold the end up so that it would stay while I kept pressure closer to the nut) and B) the B was an rear end in a top hat and didn't seat right, but it works now so oh well. Speaking of A), what's a good way to solve the problem without callign someone over to use their fingers.

I'm at the best part now: playing it to work out the slack and settle the strings in.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

meatcookie posted:

I usually set my string up, pull out the slack and then with my opposite hand I hold the string at the 1st fret while I wind it up on the tuner post with my other hand (guitar standing vertically between my knees). This helps maintain even tension on the post while I'm winding.
I can post a pic if it helps.

I know what you're saying, but the problem comes when I get to about the B, when the bit sticking past the post doesn't like to stay even after I bend it, and it keeps loving up the tension.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Electric. Getting it to wrap lower is easier, I just make sure that I'm applying tension in the middle: Keeps the end at the bridge from coming loose, and by keeping it taut after the first loop you basically ensure it's going to go down.

It's getting the string to grab and get tension that's hard on the high strings, because it's so thin that it just slips around and doesn't actually tighten unless you magically grow a third hand to hold it at the peg so that it doesn't slip, while still applying pressure by the nut to make sure that it wraps.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
It's actually a Squier Strat, so I've got to feed it from the back of the guitar up through. The real problem, and I'm obviously having trouble expressing it because I generally have no idea what I'm saying, is getting the higher strings to start to wrap around the post (please tell me I'm using the right word). The lower strings are easier, because they tend to slip around in the hole a lot less, but the B and high E are rotten assholes (again, for me) because they have no weight to keep them from slipping when you start to turn the key and I end up winding the extra bit of string or just losing it entirely, if I've already cut excess off.

e: Ah, see, I don't/didn't do that little knot thing that the video showed. I was taught to have the holes pointed straight down the neck and feed the string straight in, and I never learned about the extra little twist. Bookmarking that for future reference, because that'll solve hells of problems.

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Feb 20, 2011

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Friend of a friend is selling an Epiphone SG, with a hard case, for $450 and I'm wishing I had $450!

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

meatcookie posted:

If it's an SG-310, that's way too much. If it's a G-400, it depends.
Either way, once you try an SG, you won't go back. They're awesome and I'd never part with mine unless I upgraded significantly.

The only reason I'm really looking at it is I've heard they have slimmer necks, and I'd like to at least try one to see how comfortable it is, because my hand tends to get tired. The only guitars I've ever played are Strats and Teles and I have no idea how it would compare at this point.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
After the whole restringing debacle last weekend, I think I need to redo the low E next weekend. I wrapped it too many times, and there's nowhere for the string to go when I tighten it now. The last loop takes up the bottom of the post. Oh well, it's good practice.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Nuclear Spoon posted:

If you're feeling confident, you could fret the bottom E-string with your thumb.

I wish I could do the thumb trick. My left hand is the one with the toe-thumb, though, so it doesn't reach around.

Also, as far as learning by ear: It's good to practice, but tabs are good for a jumping off point if you're just starting. At this point, I usually at least attempt to learn it by ear, and if I can't figure it out I'll skim a tab just to get an idea of where to start.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Weatherproof posted:

How should I go about choosing new strings? I have a Fender Squire and the strings that I have on it haven't been changed in more than a year and sound really horrible now and go out of tune super quick. Are there any brands/types of strings I should look at getting?

I can buy basically any set of strings from here.

Super Slinkys work great, and they're like five bucks a pack.

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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
Went to fiddle with the action on my Squier today because I've been getting some nasty buzz, and one of those allen screws is rounded off. loving bites.

Is there a chance I can just buy a new screw and put it in, and if so, what size is it, or will I need to just get a new saddle and have a guitar place put it on for me

e: Disregard, I got a little place at the mall to order me the part, and they'll restring my guitar and replace the screw at no extra cost.

BENGHAZI 2 fucked around with this message at 00:50 on May 19, 2011

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