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The Devil's Canyon logo is hilariously bad-rear end.  Holy poo poo Intel.
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dpbjinc posted:Somebody at Intel must have really liked Gurren Lagann. Quick and Dirty:  atomicthumbs posted:Do not knock the Warhammer 40,000 style of marketing. This.
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This doesn't seem to relate to intel at all at first, but give it a read. Apparently a machine called the Datapoint 2200 was the embryo of the x86 architecture. http://www.metafilter.com/149540/The-Texas-Instruments-TMX-1795-the-first-forgotten-microprocessor quote:n the late 60's and early 70's, the technology and market were emerging to set the stage for production of monolithic, single-chip CPUs. In 1969, A terminal equipment manufacturer met with Intel to design a processor that was smaller and would generate less heat than the dozens of TTL chips they were using. The resulting design was the 8008, which is well known as the predecessor to the x86 line of processors that are ubiquitous in desktop PC's today. Less well known though, is that Texas Instruments came up with a competing design, and due to development delays at Intel, beat them to production by about nine months. http://www.righto.com/2015/05/the-texas-instruments-tmx-1795-first.html quote:As well as rejecting the TMX 1795, Datapoint also decided not to use the 8008 and gave up their exclusive rights to the chip. Intel, of course, commercialized the 8008, announcing it in April 1972. Two years later, Intel released the 8080, a microprocessor based on the 8008 but with many improvements. (Some people claim that the 8080 incorporates improvements suggested by Datapoint, but a close examination shows that later Datapoint architectures and the 8080 went in totally different directions.) The 8080 was followed by the x86 architecture, which was designed to extend the 8080. Thus, if you're using an x86 computer now, you're using a computer based on the Datapoint 2200 architecture.
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JnnyThndrs posted:I think the gold standard for horrible boards has to be cheap Via-based motherboards from the Super 7 days, long-forgotten names like FIC, Shuttle and Soyo. I had a FIC PT-2007 ever so long ago with a Pentium MMX 233 on it overclocked via jumper to 262.5MHz (75MHz FSB x 3.5 I think)  Enjoyably odd monster it was. Note the dual presence of SIMM and DIMM slots. Pretty certain they could not be both used at once though.
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As long as the Pentium 4's horrifyingly awful netburst architecture never returns from the black pit of hell, then we good Intel. Netbust was fuckin' stupid.
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Can I make a retro request in this thread? If anyone knows there was also a neat spinny Pentium MMX Demo thing that has eluded me, There are just these two pics that you have to really dig for, and no video or anything. You would shoot little polygonal spheres at it and it would bing and ping and make all kinds of musical noises and the rings would spin around, going from the state in the first image to the state in the second, spinning like those machines they strap you into to make you puke on everyone in a 20 foot radius.   It was cool as poo poo and I wanna play with it again.
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BobHoward posted:excellent deep dives into CPU microarchitecture If this is what you're looking for then look up anything Jon Stokes ever wrote for Ars Technica. https://arstechnica.com/author/hannibal/ He hasn't been with them for a long time, but his work is second to none. He wrote a book called Inside the Machine that stops around the Core 2 era: https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Machi...27%3AJon+Stokes
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Xerophyte posted:It gives them higher yields for a given clock target. Do you have any more wisdom to share? I'm curious as to what happens to completely bad dies, do they shred them up before they dispose of them to make it harder for anyone to study them and steal info from/about them, or is there some process to reclaim valuable elements from them (like the copper wiring, I imagine after a while they would be throwing away a lot of copper that might be worth saving). This also applies to the partial chips that are made off the edges of wafers, i remember reading that they do this because it improves yield of the chips next to the partials but I don't know any more about it than that. More details on the process of fusing off broken bits of chips and how this makes the chip recognize as "lesser model than it was previously" would be really interesting too.
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Decelerons Not emptyquoting.
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Itanium and Netburst happened at around the same time, right? Was someone purposefully trying to sink Intel from the inside? (ahah) It seems like they were loving up as much as possible on purpose during that time.
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Well this is new https://adoredtv.com/ Announced here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDeTruZOC8Y This guy really doesn't like Intel TBH, but it's pretty interesting nonetheless.
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Manufacturing plant guy "I was just doing what I was told" That's pretty loving awesome. Hopefully some made it into the hands of collectors.
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At some point they did start using standard ATX supplies and pinouts, this is my Optiplex 990 Minitower. I hate, hate, hate messy cables. The video card is an EVGA GT 1030 2GB, runs games better than you'd expect.  I pulled the ridiculous plastic shroud off to clean the heatsink and never reinstalled it because it's pointless on this card. It's the 02G-P4-6333-KR, 2GB GDDR5 model as shown here https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=02G-P4-6333-KR If you look on YouTube for Optiplex Gaming PC you'll see there are quite a few of these out there, I paid $90 shipped for this bastard, it's an i5 2400. The 2nd HDD is, in fact, held in there with three zip tie loops because I'm not paying for another tray/caddy for this machine. Vanagoon fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jun 25, 2019 |
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ufarn posted:no way to predict how the discussion will branch now 
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Here's a screenshot of Intel's Power Gadget showing the reading at idle for my Sandy Bridge i5 2400 (3.1GHz Quad Core, 95w TDP) This is loading it with Cinebench R15  I'm sure an Ivy Bridge would turn in even lower power consumption figures owing to being 22nm instead of 32nm This is using a discrete graphics card, a GDDR5 GT 1030. I imagine it would be higher if I were using the integrated graphics. Here's Core Temp's take, loading it very slightly here 
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I always wonder about those wafers that end up as showpieces or table ornaments, was the yield really 0% on that particular piece or were they from a production test run that failed or what? Seems like it's here's a shitload of money we could have made selling these chips but none of them work, so have a look at the pretty thing.
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I've wondered how the CPU model number/designation is set, if they're trying to make a bunch of the same chip but have to bin down some of them, is this done by wiring it up differently in the fiberglass (?) PCB the cpu is soldered to or do they blow fuses on the chip itself or what? It would be really interesting to know how exactly they disable faulty cache/cores/etc and make what would have been a certain model into another one, I mean.
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They should have waited to use that ad for the Pentium 2 - not the MMX. The Pentium 2 (and the Pentium Pro before it) were kind of a big deal. The P6 Arch was something truly new, wasn't it the first to decode the x86 instructions into RISC operations before executing those internally?
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track day bro! posted:I can’t remember how I got it but I had an adapter board for slot a that let you put a non slot PIII chip in it. I had it in some hand me down IBM desktop machine. Alongside the matrox gpu, that was my first start with pc gaming. Pretty sure this was a "Slocket" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotket
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Crossposting from the White Whale thread. Took me years to dig this back up. I don't know if anyone else is interested in this but I found the Intel Groove Machine I had posted about way earlier in the thread. I emailed one of the people who worked on it named Michael Henry and got him to send me a copy. His site is https://isorhythm.com. His correspondence was funny - he kept calling Windows "Windoze" I couldn't figure out how to video record the display so I resorted to videoing my monitor like a goon. https://i.imgur.com/Gu07zvk.mp4 Here's a link if anyone wants to mess with it. It was made in 1997 and still works under Windows 10 64 bit~! https://www.mediafire.com/file/vpta0q8xgeh1b61/Groove.rar/file
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This is my VOGONS thread about the Groove Machine. Lots of thread appropriate discussion of CPU features in there. Particularly CPUID Strings and SSE towards the end of the thread. https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&p=1075537
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McAfee Didn't Uninstall Himself.
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A book that I always recommend to anyone who wants to know how the sausage is made is Jon Stokes - Inside the Machine. It's by one of the Ars Technica writers who always did CPU specific articles. It's really good and approachable and understandable by a doofus like me. https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Machine-Introduction-Microprocessors-Architecture/dp/1593276680
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