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After sitting on an i7-3770k for the past 6 years I finally decided to get the 9900k because I can definitely feel the CPU chugging along even though I have a 1080 Ti. Until I read the reviews this morning, that is. Guess I'm going with the 9700k instead.
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So do all of these security vulnerabilities actually present concerns or are they just something consultants do to drum up press for their businesses while the attacks themselves are impossible to carry out outside an artificial environment? Getting people scared and sacrificing 50% performance for an attack only infosec people can do in person with a known system seems like a poor tradeoff.
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Nov 17, 2018 02:38
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dont be mean to me posted:I think the point is that if Intel shows wanton disregard for the security of their platforms for their major clients, imagine how little of a crap they give about your security. This article says that it's something that affects all Core processors starting from the first generation. If it took them this long to figure this attack out, then what are the odds that anyone's actually able to use it in the real world?
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Mar 7, 2019 09:35
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are any of these security vulnerabilities actually possible and a threat to consumers in the real world or is this just infosec people trying to get their name out I get that the NSA might be able to use this against a target they have physical access to, but if you need multi-million dollars, months of setup time, and skilled penetration experts to pull an attack off, then the extra security frankly isn't worth the 30% performance hit. No one at their home buying things on Amazon is going to get their data stolen by these attacks. Shipon fucked around with this message at 00:09 on May 17, 2019 |
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May 17, 2019 00:07
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DrDork posted:If you don't want the performance hit from the soft mitigation, you don't patch. That's it. You're now open to future exploits, but hey, that's your choice. They're not going to split patch lanes into "with vs without" mitigation--they'll all be with mitigation going forward. Kind of hard not to patch when software and hardware vendors cram patches down your throat by mandatory device updates.
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May 18, 2019 08:07
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DrDork posted:Source quality >50GB BluRay rips? Yeah, you're weird. If you want to encode them yourself, Handbrake et al have a bunch of single-click profiles that are good enough these days that it's real hard to tell the difference between it and source. And if you don't want to encode them yourself, you can take the tactic that many of my friends have: buy the disk to "support the creators" or whatever, then torrent the actual video file for NAS use. I tried doing this, buying an actual bluray and watching it, and the quality on the PS4 was dogshit compared to a torrent copy.
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Aug 30, 2019 20:09
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Does this mean software devs are actually going to have to put work in now?
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Sep 18, 2019 10:02
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cool chip, shame it's being used to gently caress the poor
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Oct 29, 2019 08:11
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Paul MaudDib posted:Eventually for sure although there is/was still a lot of P0 in channel. Like I said, it was drummed up scaremongering from an infosec consultancy industry that tries to boost its public profile. Anyone who needed to mitigate these problems had ways to get around it and the performance penalty was absolutely not worth it for everyone who wasn't in that segment.
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Oct 31, 2019 04:57
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Or you can just disable javascript and make browsing the internet infinitely quicker and easier
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Nov 13, 2019 19:15
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don't those hyperthreading attacks require a lot of involved effort to exploit? why is it worth destroying performance on cheap laptops to protect against an attack that no one outside of a server farm is going to see
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Dec 3, 2019 00:26
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pixaal posted:Did Intel put in a bunch of backdoors that are now being found out, or did they really botch HT that bad? no it's just academics pushing deeper and deeper at it to advance their own careers
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Dec 10, 2019 23:23
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CFox posted:ARM is a better instruction set if only because it’s not locked behind 2 drat companies. Intel and AMD can always pivot to making ARM chips, you can’t say the same for making x86. isn't it locked to one company now, nvidia? also gently caress ARM i ain't installing wack rear end emulators to run old games
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Nov 26, 2020 06:22
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If only AMD would get rid of its PGA packaging and move to LGA like they should, lol at the idea of ripping the CPU out of the socket with your heatsink.
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Mar 9, 2021 05:31
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Gwaihir posted:this is like, actually impossible to do if one uses the most bare thought or care though, who on earth avoids a platform on the basis of "I'm an idiot and will simply yank on a thing instead of twisting it first" twisting a heatsink off sounds like a good way to accidentally scratch a trace on the board
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Mar 10, 2021 06:45
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Ugly In The Morning posted:
Flight Sim's CPU bound-ness was tempting me with an upgrade from my 9700k but this showing is miserable (and the 5900x so hard to find) I'll probably just wait for the first DDR5 parts
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Mar 31, 2021 08:27
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At least now I won’t be tempted to upgrade for no reason.
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gradenko_2000 posted:I recently changed my cooler from the stock Intel fan to a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 Pro, and while I'm still utterly terrified of breaking a pin in the socket (which to be fair didn't really come into play here since I never removed the CPU from the socket), it was also a relief that the CPU retention bracket meant that I didn't have to worry about the CPU getting torn off the socket because of being glued to the cooler like with AMD. not gonna lie ryzen being PGA is partially why I haven't made the switch yet, do not wanna deal with that possibility
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Jun 16, 2021 09:08
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Paul MaudDib posted:oof, but here goes, it took me a couple tries to get just how gently the chip needs to be dropped into the socket bed (just touching slowly). I've never messed up a motherboard beyond functionality - but I have damaged at least 1 pin visually on let's say 10% of my uninstall cycles as an amateur. motherboards tend to be cheaper than CPUs (unless you go ham with one of those super expensive ones i guess) so if i had to break one or the other i'd rather break the motherboard
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Jun 17, 2021 00:30
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love the implication that the board is for bitcoin mining by GPU which hasn't been a thing for like 4 years at this point
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Jun 19, 2021 04:18
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its quite possible they saw how much of a power hog avx-512 was in rocket lake and decided not to repeat that mistake with the next gen
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Jul 24, 2021 08:21
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what's the a supposed to stand for? angstroms?
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Jul 27, 2021 00:14
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i get why they don't do it but if they just labelled by transistor density it would make so much more sense
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Jul 27, 2021 09:41
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wargames posted:ATX12vo wouldn't be a bad thing to go to it would help idle power consumption a bunch does it really? saving 10% power at idle doesn't seem worth having to move all the power conversion to the motherboard I just don't want to have to dump the 850W seasonic PSU i bought a few years ago that's got a solid 10 year warranty because of some negligible savings in idle usage
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Jul 31, 2021 01:15
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wargames posted:https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/atx12vo-power-supply-standard-gets-testedshows-really-good-idle-power-consumption,2.html
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Jul 31, 2021 13:48
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BurritoJustice posted:There's a reason only the absolute best, overspecced, titanium PSUs have 10-12yr warranties. That's way too long to use a PSU and there is a non-zero chance that it fails and takes out other components.
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Aug 2, 2021 13:08
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to be fair someone stuck at home on their gaming computer pulling down ~800 W from the wall is still using about as much electricity as it takes a tesla to drive a little over 3 miles so if someone's hobby or entertainment has them driving more than 10 miles or so per outing, tsk tsk
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Aug 9, 2021 01:01
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Hope those prices are a joke because lmao
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Sep 2, 2021 23:19
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Guess I'll finally be going custom loop this time around then!
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Oct 27, 2021 12:58
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VorpalFish posted:Wait forget everything I've been saying about tdp - I completely missed this:
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Oct 28, 2021 15:24
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Lmfao, a drat shame no motherboards have shipped yet so no one can actually break the embargo on their own
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Oct 28, 2021 23:13
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That blender power consumption and temp, god drat
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Nov 4, 2021 08:58
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Requiring Windows 11 for full performance seems problematic - I'd rather not move to that garbage new UI unless there's a way to undo all the crap microsoft decided to think was somehow an improvement.
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Nov 4, 2021 19:05
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:It's not just syscalls and interrupts, it's also a shitload of context switches which also take up CPUtime, along with whatever amount of CPUtime is spent by the scheduler itself.
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Nov 9, 2021 02:22
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gradenko_2000 posted:it's my understanding that Arizona is rather seismologically stable, and consequently already has a bunch of existing IT corps and data centers operating in the state, as points in the Pro column, even if being in the middle of the drat desert might otherwise make it sound like a really bad idea
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Making the jump to the 12900k and going with DDR4. Unfortunately my current 9700k build has some garbage 3000CL15 RAM i bought back in 2018 when the memory market was pretty hosed pricewise, so I had to buy a new kit anyway. People are saying that the MSI boards are pretty solid for DDR4 so I'm going with the Pro Z690-A, also helps that it's quite affordable.
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Nov 24, 2021 13:21
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Skyarb posted:So maybe I missed the obvious answer but it seems like a lot of the fervor for the new intel cpi's died down. I really want to replace my 8700k with a top of the line CPU because I am cpu bound in a handful of games at the moment, are any of the new intel cpus worth looking at? Gaming performance is really good with the caveat that some older games might not play well with the E cores in play and you'll need to move to Win 11 for full advantage of the core scheduler. I just went from a 9700k to a 12900k myself because of Flight Sim and a few other things. Stick with DDR4 though, DDR5 is somehow even harder to find than graphics cards at the moment and the modules that are out aren't very good.
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Dec 14, 2021 19:46
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Oh yeah check your LGA1700 kits from the cooler companies because Arctic sent me one that's got the wrong lengths so I have pretty poor contact (immediately thermal throttle on Cinebench and sit around 50-60 at 60-80 W cpu power with a liquid freezer 2 360 AIO Yeah the 12900k is a toaster but it shouldn't be immediately pegging 100 C at full load with that big a cooler, maybe upper 80s lower 90s sure
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Dec 25, 2021 04:18
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undervolting basically is overclocking in disguise anyway, it's just a bit more involved so it should if anything be a more interesting exercise
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BurritoJustice posted:Yes, you can disable E-cores. Right now this also allows you to enable AVX-512, but there are rumours Intel is going to kill that in the next IME update. If you have E-cores disabled you can also spin the ring up to (at least) 4.7GHz, some boards do this by default but not all. Was that the 12900k? Looking at the tweet https://twitter.com/IntelTech/status/1478079758898446337 Could also be them showing off 13th gen as well. Seems kind of crazy that they'd jump to 5.2 all-core with a KS version given the default is 4.9.
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Begall posted:I don't have the article to hand, but someone did a lot of testing with various power limits on a 12900K, and if I remember correctly you basically got 98% of the gaming performance at 125W as you did at 250W. EDIT: Huh, guess it was the 12900KS, 5.5 single 5.2 all-core. seems like quite a leap for the K to KS to go up 300 MHz in the all-core boost
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