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Eh. I'm more interested in, how long is going to take until we can play all our games @1080p without any hiccups? Yea, most of the time it runs well, but there's still that occasional stutter - which I think is really unacceptable.

# ¿ Sep 16, 2010 00:47

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 08:15

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Alereon posted:

Probably early January, during the Consumer Electronics Show (Jan 7-11). Officially Intel is just saying "Q1" right now, though they've released forecasts expecting that Sandy Bridge will make up 20% of desktop CPU shipments in Q1, which indicates an early and heavy launch. Board manufacturers are demoing complete product lines of LGA-1155 boards now, so it can't be that far off.

What the hell is the other 80? C2Ds?

# ¿ Nov 11, 2010 15:31

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Alereon posted:

Ivy Bridge has been delayed for another quarter, until Q2 2012.

Wow, that is incredibly annoying. I'd love a new laptop (R61i Currently) but the HD 3000 just doesn't cut it for me. If I buy a $1k laptop, the best I can get out of Starcraft II is only low details, the hell?

The gaming laptops aren't that bad, Sager comes close but I'd rather just have a Thinkpad.

# ¿ Jun 3, 2011 03:09

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Hmm, on the subject of hardware none of the OEMs are down with the ultrabook platform.

# ¿ Sep 13, 2011 00:27

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WhyteRyce posted:

Anandtech has some IVB info
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4763/ivy-bridge-gpu-performance-up-to-60-faster-than-snb-better-quicksync

God, that looks really cool. Laptops are finally catching up, I'd suspect that DOTA 2 and possibly even Crysis 2 are playable.

Will Thunderbolt be standard once Ivy Bridge hits?

# ¿ Sep 14, 2011 08:51

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Alereon posted:

I think the situation is similar to that of AMD with their fusion netbooks, OEMs don't want to sell them at a competitive price because they're still able to move product and make more profits with a higher price. While Ultrabooks would take over the market at $1000, they'll still sell at >$1000, just like how Brazos netbooks would obsolete Atom netbooks at $300, but people will pay $400-450 for the superior performance.

Still, it's so annoying. The Macbook Air form-factor is so obscenely awesome and literally every competitor just isn't the same. Lower screen resolution, huge bezel, thicker, glossy cheap plastic, etc

# ¿ Sep 14, 2011 08:53

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God. Haswell looks so much more awesome, good loving god. 10-20w mainstream CPU and it's faster than current gen and even cheaper :aaa:

# ¿ Sep 17, 2011 09:54

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KillHour posted:

It's not the 55 billion that's impressive (Wal Mart had a revenue of over 400 billion last year; The company I work for did almost 30, and I'd be surprised if you ever heard of them), it's the 11 million increase that blows my mind.

There are hundreds of companies that are replacing their server infrastructure with new processors, cloud computing and there are still plenty of companies getting rid of P4s and replacing those units.

You've also got older C2Ds, which are pretty fast but are showing their age.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2011 22:37

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WhyteRyce posted:

People say their C2Ds are still more than enough for them but I would kill for an upgrade of my Cantiga laptop at work

Anything remotely graphical and mine just chokes plus even with a Thinkpad the keyboard is so worn after 3-4 years?

# ¿ Oct 22, 2011 23:08

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I put an SSD in my C2D and I'd almost rather use it over my desktop.

Unfortunately, the cost of SSDs is obscenely high and I don't see them being introduced into the corporate world anytime soon.

# ¿ Oct 22, 2011 23:17

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movax posted:

The hardware has been around for awhile, but most consumer stuff like ThuderBolt is kind of bandwidth starved (PCIe 2.1 x4). The software support isn't quite there yet either, unfortunately. Work needs to be done by both OS vendors and hardware vendors. I'm sure the BIOS guys have some work to do if they want to roll with ACPI-mediated PCIe hot plug.

MSI actually has a functional demo.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5352/msis-gus-ii-external-gpu-via-thunderbolt

Personally, if this existed I seriously consider just picking up a MacBook Air and just using that as my main pc. If I ever needed to play games I'd just dual-boot and hook up my external GPU.

# ¿ Aug 7, 2012 08:51

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With Haswell are there any changes for Thunderbolt and PCI-E 4x limitation?

I really, really want to know when we will see this interface replacing docking stations and eGPUs becoming available.

# ¿ Sep 14, 2012 19:29

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Does is the QXXX even bottle-necked?

I'm personally hoping to hold onto Ivy Bridge build until Skylake, minus a new SSD Drive or Video Card upgrade.

# ¿ Nov 23, 2012 01:40

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I was under the impression that the TDP will remain the same but there will be very substantial increases in battery life and graphics.

# ¿ Feb 25, 2013 17:03

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necrobobsledder posted:

Those virtualization improvements are giving me a nerd boner. Next thing they'll add is GPU virtualization extensions with Broadwell beating nVidia to the punch and I'd have a small nerdgasm.

I just want this so I could run OS X in a VM :smug:

In other news, I just want to see the mobile performance of Haswell. I'm due for a new laptop this year and my C2D is simply too old :dance:

# ¿ Mar 20, 2013 07:46

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That's not bad at all, but I wonder what ATI or nVidia will bring to the table...

# ¿ Mar 27, 2013 10:46

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Just think of what SkyLake will bring guys :smug:

# ¿ Mar 28, 2013 02:45

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you ate my cat posted:

My processor is so old it's not even on that list

I'm rocking a Core Duo T7500. A Haswell Thinkpad cannot come soon enough for me.

I don't understand where the onslaught of new ThinkPads is...

# ¿ Jun 2, 2013 05:14

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Where the are the mobile processor reviews?

# ¿ Jun 3, 2013 23:06

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I'm just hoping I can leapfrog from Sandy Bridge to Skylake... That would be such an ideal scenario and seems easy enough.

# ¿ Jun 7, 2013 17:46

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I don't want to delay, I want leapfrog from Sandy Bride to Skylake

# ¿ Jun 18, 2013 19:31

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What's the most likely solution?

# ¿ Jun 18, 2013 20:52

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On a slightly different subject where on earth are the Haswell non-Apple laptops?

# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 00:54

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necrobobsledder posted:

but for most companies just tacking on a few more blades will always be cheaper than having your developers paid like $11k / mo each spend their time optimizing for a potential few hundred times speedup.

Just throwing in another piece of physical equipment is always better than hiring a human.

# ¿ Jun 19, 2013 04:53

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I understand how hard-drives fail after years but for something with no moving parts - how do motherboards, RAM and Processors randomly fail after years on end?

# ¿ Jun 20, 2013 04:40

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Is it just me or did Broadwell come out way sooner than expected?

# ¿ Oct 17, 2013 02:55

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Yea, I can't see a good reason to upgrade my i5-2500k. 99% of the time I'm GPU or limited by my storage.

With SATA Express not being included with Broadwell, what's the point in upgrading? I'm waiting for Skylake.

# ¿ Mar 21, 2014 16:02

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Surprised to see so many Power guys, how many of work on powersystems on a daily-basis?

# ¿ Apr 24, 2014 22:11

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I'm still on Sandy Bridge and I don't see a reason to upgrade until Skylake.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2014 19:13

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Skylake brings SATA Express with-it and even this alone is pretty tempting...

# ¿ Sep 10, 2014 01:08

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Welmu posted:

Not really: most users are well-served by using a single M.2 SSD in a 4x slot which is ~twice faster (with zero cables) than SATA-Express. Yes, you're limited to a single drive, but the SM951 comes in sizes of up to 1TB and supports NMVe to boot.

Is there even a proper way to mount the M.2 SSD? Or are newer models still coming out?

Not sure if I'm wildly missing the picture but aren't NVMe SSDs geared towards the enterprise and start a a bit over a grand?

# ¿ Sep 10, 2014 15:43

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Factory Factory posted:

There are dedicated M.2 slots, mounting them isn't a problem. If your board doesn't have one, many folks make little adapter boards that are just M.2 slots directly wired to a PCIe slot on an expansion board for PCIe, or on a little 2.5" sled for SATA.

God bless Startech and their tons of borderline-useless little adapters.

NVMe is currently mostly an enterprise tech, but that's because it's brand new (and therefore expensive, so only enterprise is willing to pay for it) and the benefits of NVMe over AHCI are mostly felt in I/O heavy applications (i.e. in Enterprise). It'll trickle down. Almost every desktop innovation is a trickle-down server innovation from a few years prior.

Ha, I had no idea they started putting M.2 on boards although there a little difficult to identify at first. NVMe looks like a great product but once it reaches consumers which looks to be soon what's the point of SATA Express?

# ¿ Sep 10, 2014 16:22

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Malcolm XML posted:

SATA Express is the physical spec (the wires) NVMe is the host controller interface (the software API)

You can use SATA Express with AHCI like regular SATA, but that would be artificially limiting the controller, so i suspect everyone will jump to NVMe since every OS supports it already.

Not sure if am following, this is how I'm understanding it...

Currently, we have a combination of SATA and AHCI. SATA is the physical standard while AHCI is the logical standard which allows you to communicate with the host but I don't understand what happens after this? SATA -> AHCI -> ???

Now, we're getting SATA Express and NVMe. I was under the impression that SATA-Express is a direct connection to the PCI-Express bus but it can't communicate without a logical layer and AHCI is needed. We have a path of SATA Express -> AHCI -> PCI-Express

With NVMe, we can simply skip over this physical connection and connect devices directly into PCI-Express and they'll be recognized by the host. NVMe -> PCI-Express...

Am I getting this correctly?

# ¿ Sep 10, 2014 17:12

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Okay, that makes more sense but then what's the point of SATA Express? NVMe is makes a hell of a lot more...

# ¿ Sep 10, 2014 18:04

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If I'm looking at the specifications correctly, couldn't a single P3700 potentially replace some SANs? I'm a little storage illiterate...

# ¿ Sep 10, 2014 21:49

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Maybe if this was 2005 I'd recommend AMD over Intel but nowadays not so much.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2014 00:37

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Won't a non-silicon processor also need a completely new instruction set?

# ¿ Sep 26, 2014 22:35

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Less, much less. Look at intel's tick-tock strategy.

# ¿ Oct 9, 2014 20:36

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necrobobsledder posted:

RISC is going to eat x86's lunch is the hardware version of "this is the year of Linux on the desktop" and "strong AI is only 20 years away."

So... Basically never?

# ¿ Oct 21, 2014 05:23

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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 08:15

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Hopefully it'll be a worthwhile upgrade from Sandy Bridge, are there any upcoming SATA-Express drives?

# ¿ Feb 2, 2015 17:29

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