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Mr. Heliotrope posted:Plus he didn't really know her then, so he wouldn't have had too much of a problem with that. Yeah he did, they had the conversation on the rooftop before.
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Nicolae Carpathia posted:Lots of people see their lovers murdered before their eyes and they don't turn into spectral beings of pure hatred. Jeanne is just being overly dramatic. It's pretty obvious from Chapter 25 that Jeanne did not know the whole plan when she was lowered down. She was sent down against her better judgment as unwitting bait to draw Greeny out, she watched his murder, and then she was left there to die knowing that Diego and the other Court higher-ups were responsible for killing both of them. Her 'sacrifice', as they put it (transformation into a spectral sentinel of sorts) wasn't something she knew she was volunteering for. Reasons for pure hatred? Check.
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wdarkk posted:Yeah he did, they had the conversation on the rooftop before. I meant more of a closer relationship, like they have now.
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Nicolae Carpathia posted:Lots of people see their lovers murdered before their eyes and they don't turn into spectral beings of pure hatred. Jeanne is just being overly dramatic. There's no way that was a normal arrow. If she was just a crazy ghost, the psychopomps could help her and guide her on to the world beyond, admittedly with some difficulty like they had for the boy in the hospital. Muut has said that she's beyond their reach completely. That's not something that happens normally with just lingering feelings of bitterness. Not to mention the arrow was glowing and had an "odd weight," which I'm sure we'll find out more about in the future. I doubt this is the last we're going to see of Jeanne, no matter what Parley does here. We just now know her backstory so Annie can go about looking for a way to help her.
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Kismet posted:I honestly think you're reading way too much into that scene. Reynardine is a trickster, a wild animal, and a bit of a dick. Given the choice between languishing in chains with an old body and a gimped leg for god only knows how long, or leaping into the young teenage daughter of a lady he once had the hots for, he went for Annie. She wouldn't have died so long as he hung out in her body, and I doubt he was thinking that far ahead when an opportunity to escape presented itself. Actually, I remember reading somewhere that when Reynardine possesses someone's body they "die" (their consciousness does anyway) pretty much immediately. <ninja edit> Think this was from Tom's formspring Reynardine's body-snatching powers, loving how do they work? posted:Q. Does someone die the instant Reynardine takes over their body, or are they still conscious on some level until he exits the body? Oneiros fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Sep 30, 2010 |
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I think Jeanne was either honor-bound or forced to go down and patrol the shores of the Annan Waters that night, so she and the Elf-Boy made a secret pact that he would come get her at 3 a.m. and she would run away with him into the forest forever. Unfortunately, (a) the pact wasn't so secret (due to Diego's little clockwork spies, probably) and (b) the Court saw a golden opportunity to make the Annan Waters impassable in perpetuity. So Diego whipped up an Arrow of Elf-Slaying +5 with bonus "Paralyze Jeanne Until She Dies and then Bind Her Immortal Soul" power. Notice too that Jeanne's face still appears to be paralyzed, to the point that "frowning" essentially warps her entire head.  I know all the olden Court guys are complicit, but Steadman comes out looking almost as bad as Diego here. Two-faced little bastard.
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Why is she patrolling in a dress and not at least a fencer's uniform?
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Brannock posted:Why is she patrolling in a dress and not at least a fencer's uniform? It's the same dress she was in when the killing of Elfdude and binding of her.
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Mr. Heliotrope posted:It's the same dress she was in when the killing of Elfdude and binding of her. I know. That's what I'm asking the guy who posted above me, who suggested that Jeanne was on a routine patrol and got backstabbed.
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Brannock posted:Why is she patrolling in a dress and not at least a fencer's uniform?
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The one thing i kinda like about Wedensday's comic is that fact that they are really quite clearly TERRIFIED. These characters aren't really heroes, despite all their extra abilities and whatnot.. They're just curious children who want to do the right thing. I know it sounds kinda weird but to me it's more appealing that they are actually crying instead of being all 'Ghosts? Heh. No.'
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Rei_ posted:The one thing i kinda like about Wedensday's comic is that fact that they are really quite clearly TERRIFIED. These characters aren't really heroes, despite all their extra abilities and whatnot.. They're just curious children who want to do the right thing. I know it sounds kinda weird but to me it's more appealing that they are actually crying instead of being all 'Ghosts? Heh. No.' That's not weird at all. Superhuman, emotionless characters are uninteresting.
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We need us a "gently caress yeah, Parley!" image. It seems appropriate. Parley gives no fucks about no ghosts. She will straight up ninja kick a ghost to get a magical doodad back from it when she has no idea what in the flying hell is going on.
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Letting your opponent, a teenage school student, kick you in the hand and make you drop the thing you were holding? Jeanne's gotten rusty since she died. She ain't so tough.
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Parley is all "Get away from her you BITCH"
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Nicolae Carpathia posted:Letting your opponent, a teenage school student, kick you in the hand and make you drop the thing you were holding? Jeanne's gotten rusty since she died. She ain't so tough. I've got a feeling she's about to get stabbed, that arm offscreen and Parley being so open from the kick has me wondering.
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Syrg Sapphire posted:I've got a feeling she's about to get stabbed, that arm offscreen and Parley being so open from the kick has me wondering. I'm not sure at this point. Since the stone landed the way it did because Smitty threw it, whatever happens is probably going to bring order to the situation, whatever that means. Could be good or bad for Parley. For all Jeane's scariness though, she doesn't seem to be trying that hard to actually kill anyone. Annie has that cut on her face, but Jeane looks like she's going to charge her here, but it's kinda vague. At the beginning of the flashback sequence, Jeane reaches out and touches Parley's...not hand to show her everything that happened. Would she have bothered to have done this if she was just going to kill her anyway? Then in today's panel, it looks less like Parley knocked the stone out of Jeane's hand and more like Jeane let go of it when Parley struck her. Almost like she got a point in a fencing match. What she says matches this. As good as I am at reading things though, Parley will be dead on Monday while Kat and Smitty make out on the stairs.
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I am late to the party on the which panel is the best panel discussion, but this whole page is the best panel.
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Elliot Rosewater posted:As good as I am at reading things though, Parley will be dead on Monday while Kat and Smitty make out on the stairs. Pff, don't be silly. Smitty isn't a bird. bigfatspacko_uk posted:Man this comic is loving pretty Yeah, Christ. I love these weird pages. Blinker stone stuff, Coyote stuff, it's all god drat gorgeous.
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Looking at the comic, Parley is just moving incredibly quickly. Jeanne's still in the middle of that lunge from the top when Parley's kicking the stone out of her hand.
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Pedantic spoiler warning (art rear end in a top hat irl) The bottom of the frame below Parley is cut off about 1cm above the bottom of Annie's frame. Parley's leg should extend to the bottom to retain continuity. Edit: also this bigfatspacko_uk posted:Man this comic is loving pretty
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AfroSpatula posted:Pedantic spoiler warning (art rear end in a top hat irl) The bottom of the frame below Parley is cut off about 1cm above the bottom of Annie's frame. Parley's leg should extend to the bottom to retain continuity. Nah, it's supposed to be like that. I take care to make sure what is and isn't passing outside of the page frame on these types of pages.
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quote:I'm not sure at this point. Since the stone landed the way it did because Smitty threw it, whatever happens is probably going to bring order to the situation, whatever that means. Could be good or bad for Parley. Well, bringing order to the situation can't possibly be a matter of killing off Parley. I assume it involves (a) letting Jeanne tell her side of the story (which may be by no means accurate!), and (b) getting Annie out safely, by bringing the only one in the Court who knows spectral kung fu.
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I have a better idea you guys. How about Smitty brings order to the situation by throwing the stone and hitting a bird. And Parley arrived because she was watching a romantic movie and is in love with Smitty. Seriously here, he's not god. He just has the power to make everything boring.
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Chapter 17 is full of ace moments -> http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=363
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Tea-san posted:Nah, it's supposed to be like that. I take care to make sure what is and isn't passing outside of the page frame on these types of pages. It does look a bit incongruous, since it's a flat line cutoff right before a flat line cutoff (the natural end of the page) and everything else flows to the end of the page. Though if you say it's intended, then it's intended.
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Brannock posted:It does look a bit incongruous, since it's a flat line cutoff right before a flat line cutoff (the natural end of the page) and everything else flows to the end of the page. Though if you say it's intended, then it's intended.
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I want to add that I absolutely love the paneling and attention to reading flow in those spirit-world pages.
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Ka0 posted:Chapter 17 is full of ace moments: I love the comment below the comic - 'That's... pretty weird, Parley.'
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Tea-san's comments are one of my favorite things about Gunnerkrigg. quote:It's Coyote. That green guy is Coyote in disguise (and that big guy is Eglamore). skizzenstifte fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 1, 2010 |
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Ka0, you might want to thumbnail or link some of those. Your post is huge. And if we wanted to reread the entire chapter, we can do that quite easily on gunnerkrigg.com.ChairMaster posted:I have a better idea you guys.
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Yeah, can we not post entire pages of Gunnerkrigg here in the thread? We're supposed to be hooking people in and sending them to the site, not rehosting Siddell's comic for him. In fact, imagine I just made the same post as the one above me. All of that.
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OK fixed it.
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Tea-san posted:Nah, it's supposed to be like that. I take care to make sure what is and isn't passing outside of the page frame on these types of pages. Ok, that's pretty cool then. Those pages are so freeform, it's almost like stepping outside the comic format to convey the storytelling. Having the individual frames sneak in was just a little jarring.
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Ka0 posted:Chapter 17 is full of ace moments -> http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=363 Just a reminder that Mort is the poo poo. Carry on.
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