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Whitenoise Poster posted:He probably had to use his pocket door in order to avoid any locks and alarms on the real door. This. A medical supply room will of course have alarms and security measures. And sure, Donny probably could have used other means to get past them, but Donny doesn't break into rooms like a common thief; Donny has STYLE.
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So I guess perhaps this wasn't something her father did, it's just that he was hurting her by his absence (symbolized by his facelessness). It might have been just another stop on the whirlwind tour of Antimony's various relationships and the conflicting feelings they engender. Or maybe it is all his fault and we're going to get back to him eventually in this chapter. Since he is a complete bastard.
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Clockwork Cupcake posted:I always figured she wore so much makeup because her mother did, or as some kind of tie to her parents. I can't find the exact page, but doesn't she scrub it all off when she's freaking out after Reynard gets angry and reveals that she was the reason her mother died, and everyone knew it? I think that was when she ran into the forest. The scene you might be thinking of is the end of Chapter 14, after she encounters Coyote and Ysengrin in the Court. She wipes the makeup off after looking at the picture of her parents and their friends, possibly because she noticed her mother didn't wear any (as you note, as a way of connecting with her, maybe). edit: dammit beaten \/\/\/\/ Oh, it's not really something I paid attention to in Surma's appearances I guess. A small way for Antimony to declare that she's her own person then? Especially after Coyote and others were sort of hammering home just how similar she seemed to Surma. usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jun 19, 2012 |
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Last panel suggests an ominous pan-up to Microsat-5. Then it's revealed that we're actually still in that chapter and the "Divine" title card was just an illusion/part of Zimmy's reality usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 14:04 on Jun 20, 2012 |
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She's been in a hospital bed for a while and her face feels all grody
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Produced by... what? PRODUCED BY WHAT? etheric vibrations, of course
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Fried Chicken posted:It's worth noting that in most of the folk stories, Ysengrin does end up dying, severely hurt, or otherwise end tragically. So maybe nobody takes him, and he's doomed to an eternal cycle of living as the butt of Coyote's jokes before dying in abject humiliation, only to come back again for more torment. That'd drive any wolf-tree-myth a little bonkers.
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Diet Conan Doyle posted:
Coyote most likely had his own pre-established idea about which version is the "true" Ysengrin and set about to prove it. By breaking him. gently caress you, Coyote.
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I always wondered if she had something to do with Muut and the other guides. The first time Antimony meets Coyote, she brings up Muut and Coyote replies "Nice guy! Hell of a poker face!". The very next panel shows Jones (the other major character with a "hell of a poker face") flashing a significant look. For some reason I also can't help but see a bit of a resemblance to Anthony (especially the eyes), another notable character with a flat affect. Hell if I can put it all together though. I doubt we'll see a complete answer this chapter, either. Maybe another flashback to Anthony, Donny, Surma, Anja, and Eglamore, showing exactly how they knew her back then.
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M.c.P posted:Hm, only a year ago though. Annie was still in school, if we're generous she hasn't spent her first summer at Gunnerkrigg, if not we're into Lindsay territory. Either way, Sivo is dead and has been for some time. So Jimmy Jims is what, punching Orjhaks? Finding one hard enough to buddy up with so he doesn't have to borrow valkyrie girl's teleportation junk to go anywhere? Oh yeah and Jones is there and he's pretty sweet on her. Especially seems to enjoy touching his hair, for whatever reason. I find it a pretty  relationship overall, there's obviously a lot of affection in the body language (and has been ever since we first saw them together, sparring), even if the stone face always adds a strange, mildly unnerving note.If this chaptet doesn't reveal what Jones is, I'll be happy if it at least sheds more light on her relationship with Jimmy Jims.
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Disquieting speculations aside, Friday's strip ( http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=1100 ) did actually solve one mystery for me, if only partially. The six friends (Anja, Donny, Jimmy Jims, Surma, Brinnie, and Anthony) were all brought together when they were "accidentally" stuck in Chester for their first year. Presumably, being the only six relatively normal humans among a bunch of maroons and joiks caused them to naturally gravitate to one another, in some cases forming lifelong bonds. That "error" in class assignment always seemed suspicious to me, and now we've seen Jones introducing two of them. And given her interest in Eglamore, there's no way she'd miss an error like that for a whole school year. So now we at least know the "who", if not the "why" Jones would want to bring this particular group together. Maybe we'll get some hint in the upcoming strips.
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Tupperwarez posted:I'm really digging Jackie O Jones. Sounds likely. Both groups are a mix of people talented in "etheric sciences" and in traditional sciences. Something to do with healing the division between the Court and the Forest, I'd guess.
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Donald is pretty much straight up trad-science, I think, at least in aptitude and training. The etheric abilities he's shown derive exclusively from being a sub-user on Anja's computer. And while we're here, I can't resist posting the strip from two days later, one of my favorites. The final panel always slays me.
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Up until this point we've pretty much only seen her in a Western world setting. Who knows how much longer this will go on, but I get the sense it's winding down now that we're into silent panels, and there are no other humans around. Jones is an etheric manifestation of Western culture and imperialism, a parochial, patronizing intrusion into the lives of people otherwise minding their own business, then moving on when she's had her way (or people start wising up). Her lack of emotion and pretend neutrality make her 'tutelage' appear more benign than it truly is. Her stone-like nature represents the building material of cities, which may rise and fall, but the concept of cities endure. Her interest in the Court is the creation of an eternal city built on biological principles ("grown" from a seed) but still representing a bulwark against a force of nature that remains resolutely untamed amd emotional.
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The go-to explanation so far has been that Jones has something to do with the ether, but now I wonder if she represents a different order of reality,, one that hasn't yet been introduced in the comic. Where the ether is a realm of thought, imagination, and constant flux, Jones is a product of a purely "material" realm, fixed and unchanging, and the Universe is the place where these two domains overlap. (Basically like the D&D conception of the Astral/Outer Planes and Ethereal/Inner Planes.) This still gets back to the issue of why she looks humans before humans existed, though, so there may be some etheric element, or the "material" realm she represents is a place of Platonic ideals (sort of) and the burgeoning complexity of life sort of shaped itself around her. (Just kicking an idea around; don't mean to open any cans of worms about blonde Caucasian women being "the ideal" human) Also I thought that page with Eggers sleeping in her lap made it pretty clear she doesn't sleep or eat (only one plate on the floor, obviously Eglamore's, alongside the dropped newspaper -- which itself may sort of highlight the difference between James, a human, reading a newspaper, a transient source of information, while Jones reads a book, something more long-lived in its utility).
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Wikiman posted:This is the best page. It could be an etheric thing, though strangely limited (why can Zimmy see Kat that way but not Annie when she's projecting?). The robots might therefore see her as a bridge to having a more human, etherically-connected perspective. After all, she was the one they specifically asked to explain their creator's actions/feelings toward Jeanne. If true, that could also make her a very credible candidate for the next medium...
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Zerilan posted:I think it had to do with Renard being a bit crazy and desperate from being imprisoned. Also the theory that he was aiming for the doll in the first place. Renard back before he had the body swap power was said to be fond of humans and friends with them even before falling in love with Surma, but the Court saw him as a threat because Coyote wanted to make him as powerful as himself. I never quite accepted the "aiming for the doll" theory, since the dialogue almost certainly seemed to imply that it was accidental. Reynardine has, since then, said some things about the "mind being the plaything of the body" (and he often does seem to act differently when he's in toy mode versus wolf mode), but Sivo was, according to Eglamore, peaceful and noble, so it's unlikely that possessing that body made him evil-ish. Or maybe Rogat Orjaks really do have to struggle against those sorts of instincts, and Reynardine was unprepared. Maybe time will tell. It's been one of the longstanding questions in this comic that's genuinely bothered me.
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How did Reynard open that door
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madjack posted:Ok what two things are wrong with this scene? Paz hadn't finished drawing the pentagram and she forgot the pigeon sacrifice
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I would recommend the HD remaster just for the improved graphics alone (they're gorgeous) but it's painfully obvious that New Character and Pointless Ancillary Questline were written by a completely different team and bring nothing particularly distinctive to the table. Still, nice to see a new generation of gamers introduced to the classic A Video Game.
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Look, the Court is to the ana, and Gillitie is kata-ward. Simple. Whenever you want to go on holiday, you just take a big step at a right angle to reality and hope you wind up in the Balearics and not Scunthorpe.
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Wesley Zillis
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Coyote... is.... A GHOOOOOOST What would 'death' even mean to an entity like Coyote? Do they get escorted into the ether for discorporation to "keep the world turning"? And does this relate to Loup's promise to free Annie from her obligation to the psychopomps? Interested to find out.
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The big question is who will Jerrek infodump all this to next? Each remaining chapter will just consist of people passing larger and larger infodumps to each other until everyone knows everything and it turns out that the Omega Device... is the comic itself, and also you, dear reader
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Captain Oblivious posted:The more pertinent analysis of romance in this comic is that basically every Good And Cool romance endorsed by the text consists of an emotionally inert man and a woman who does all the actual emotional labor in the relationship. Well there was a thing between Jones and Old Whats-His-Name but I don't think they ever explained when that ended since now he's shacking up with the elf lady (so he can take his proper place as the more emotionally-inert partner)
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Potsticker posted:That's what's hilarious, though, with what we see Eglamore was still the emotionally inert one compared to Jones. A self-described stone was doing the emotional labor of taking care of him in the relationship. Ha, that's true. I was just more fixated on the ultra-creepy undertone of their relationship given that she was basically his nanny/only family since he was a wean Edit: I mean, see https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1099 versus https://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1097 -- the latter page has never come off as anything but manipulative to me, and then a week later the former page came along and made it 1000% worse usenet celeb 1992 fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Oct 5, 2022 |
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All points raised so far have been extremely valid but nothing will ever be as existentially disturbing to me as the arbitrary and complete destruction of two distinct personalities for no other reason than narrative convenience/wanting to move on to the next predetermined plot point.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure the Norns outright said it was the latter.
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Man, that page just pisses me off all over again. Given that this was during the stage where we weren't 100% sure what the deal is with the two Annies, this could have made sense as a cuckoo's-egg kind of deal (given that look that Court Annie shot in the second to last panel), but it turns out that no, Annie and her dad just had a touching, months-long reconciliation offscreen! Anthony worked through so many of his issues in a caring and eccentric environment with family and friends! Offscreen! The surgery, which could have been a capstone moment to their relationship, with Anthony finally willing to show some vulnerability in front of his child while she gets to feel some real connection with him -- furthermore, in a way that could evoke/mirror that crucial earlier scene with the gi as a beautiful expression of character growth in a visual medium!!! And it happened!!! Off!!! Screen!!!!!
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Cavatica posted:It makes me wish all over again that we had a chapter (or hell, even a one-pager) after the combination that focused solely on all of the memories Annie^2 gained. They became separate enough characters that it feels more like we lost one of them entirely. Both were lost, as individuals. Like Loup but without the dramatics. Could have been interesting parallels/contrasts to draw there! And thanks for the reminder, JuniperCake. There was still a lot that happened offscreen but I'm having a hard enough time keeping all the contradictory on-screen stuff straight.
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Everyone in Annie's circle (except Annie herself) is at the very least pretty academically talented, so it's not hard to believe that Paz has an advanced grasp of mammalian anatomy, and at least a good textbook knowledge of human anatomy in specific. We are just meant to accept that this means she can operate like a professional surgeon in the same way we accept that Kat has skipped over any sort of animal testing in order to Neuralink her own brain: because comic book science just works that way.
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I'm just assuming that "Too Far" in this context means that it Works Too Well and not that it gives her uncontrollable seizures or a fatal infection.
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God drat it, beat me to it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxsdDpkFN8
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Like Kat wouldn't be exactly the type of person to enable voice commands just so she could yell "COMPUTER -- ENHANCE!" and laugh herself sick
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Nuns with Guns posted:You could possibly infer that the Court is basically a living organism that can provide for the people who reside there, develop and maintain its own power supplies, and grow new buildings for storage, etc. It was "grown from a seed bismuth", after all. Bismuth crystals are very easily grown and have a very pretty, nested rectangular structure that looks a bit like a colorful futuristic cityscape. (The "bismuth" that created the Court likely being named metaphorically rather than being the literal element, of course.) Kat's work as an extension of that would be an interesting angle to take, but again, as you note, we're probably just going to have to infer it offscreen.
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Dude literally went on a Vision Quest not to figure out how to connect with his daughter, but to learn from the ancient spirits how best to experiment on her without her knowledge and consent. But, no harm done and he's totally made up for it by getting along with the version of Annie that he didn't actually believe was his daughter (what)
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