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Geez, archer dude is an arsehole. I assume the present Headmaster is one of his descendents? It would be interesting if this is what ends up causing the rift between the Court and Gillitie Wood, and how the Annan Waters becomes deadly to every who passes through it. Also Smitty is sooo the god of Gunnerkrigg Court. Also... did Diego talk to Jeanne about living that 'traitor'? It can't possibly be the green forest dude, right?
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quote:I'm not sure at this point. Since the stone landed the way it did because Smitty threw it, whatever happens is probably going to bring order to the situation, whatever that means. Could be good or bad for Parley. Well, bringing order to the situation can't possibly be a matter of killing off Parley. I assume it involves (a) letting Jeanne tell her side of the story (which may be by no means accurate!), and (b) getting Annie out safely, by bringing the only one in the Court who knows spectral kung fu.
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ChairMaster posted:He didn't have that goal in mind at all, they just told him to throw it. Boring isn't hitting the bird. Boring is missing the bird and maintaining the status quo. Hitting the bird is progressing the plot, and resolving the imbalance Jeanne's presence has created in the Court - which I think is much closer to what Smitty's power actually is. Also getting a tearful Parley in his arms is another bonus, that will hopefully be far from boring.... As I predicted, this situation has resolved safely, unnaturally quickly (how much subjective time has passed with Kat and Smitty? A few seconds?), through the occurances of fortitous happenings. Just like the Fangs of Summertime, and Terror Castle of the Jupiter Moon Martians. In summary, Smitty is soooo god. What more do you want from him, to offer a molar to Annie? (And anyway it has never made sense to me that there isn't an Order opposite to Coyote's chaos, given the theme of duality in the comic.)
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1stGear posted:Mild derail, but thanks for linking this. I had heard GRRM disliked fanfiction but as I didn't follow his work, I never bothered to find out why. Interesting read on the topic and his opinions are much more well-reasoned and grounded than I expected. It's kinda silly though - doesn't the standard fanfiction disclaimer ('I don't own this, the author does, don't try to make money off this, and if any copyright holder complains I'll take this offline') basically cover his objections? His approach basically presupposes an impossibility of having a reasonable relationship with one's fans. Also, trying to stop people from jerking off to/drawing creepy porn of/etc of your work in the age of the internet is possibly the most futile exercise there is.
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Oct 10, 2010 02:13
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1stGear posted:Also, the art is pretty and overanalysis is an excuse to look at it some more. Oh come on overanalysis is fun, and you don't have to read it if you don't want to.
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Oct 15, 2010 17:12
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I discussed this with someone, but I seem to be the only one who seems to see it. But I figure the point with this storyline is that Annie thinks her relationship with Jack with similar to that of Surma with Rey - in that she's leading him on, while Jack is totally infatuated with her and doesn't see there's no reciprocation. And that's gotta be depressing. Also maybe she went to talk to Jack because she wanted help with her homework, but realised how bad an idea getting Jack to help would be. and annie is a filthy cheat, kat is too good for her
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Nov 15, 2010 20:41
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Fecha posted:It seems bizarre to me to leave the company of Kat and her mother and then go to ask Jack for help with homework. Are you going to demonstrate your total incompetence and cheating past in front of a teacher and your best (only?) friend (co-incidentally said teacher's daughter)?
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Nov 15, 2010 22:13
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I really don't see Rey as the 'plot vengeance' kind of guy. I think he'll just be crushed by monumental despair. Poor dude just wanted his one chance to be someone's father figure. 
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Well, this gives a whole new perspective on why Anthony Carver isn't around...quote:Welp, Renard with the nuclear option. Can't see them being friends after this one. Maybe if Smitty was here.... 
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Nov 29, 2010 13:36
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Oneiros posted:And now we know the meaning behind Reynard's line "and this means... she is gone". He knew what would/had happened between Annie and her mother. He knew that Annie being at the school meant that Surma was dead. Well, there were hints all over the place. E.g. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=110 http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=416 And I guess this is why Reynardine hates Anthony so much - he believes Anthony left because he blamed Antimony for Surma's death.
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Stupid Boob posted:So my theory after reading the last strip, is that it was Antimony that was dying, and not her mother. Her mom was gradually growing weaker and weaker because she was transfering her own life to Anny to keep her going/cure her. Meanwhile, Anthony is working his rear end off to save Antimony. They told her Surma was dying and Anthony was trying to find the cure that would save her life so she wouldn't feel needlessly guilty, or worry for her life (and it would be true in a way.) If that was true, then why hasn't Anthony contacted Annie? Why did he go so far as to leave the hospital where he was working and ensure that no one there could tell Annie where he was going? Add this to the fact that Anthony was always kind of distant with Annie and that Annie's only memory of her father is as a faceless figure, it seems a lot like Anthony just couldn't get over Annie's involvement in Surma's death and ran away. I'd expect this is certainly Rey's assessment, and it explains a lot of how Rey has been acting - it's mostly his attempt to prove he is better than Anthony.
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Nov 30, 2010 08:49
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Detetsu posted:or this is the summer that Annie spends in the forest with Coyote. I'm going to bet that the Coyote has something to do with all of this. After all, Surma took away Rey from him. Your child being the death of you seems like a fairly classical curse.
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Dec 1, 2010 16:48
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quote:Yes Renard is hardly innocent in this situation, and his response to the bombshell Annie dropped on him isn't close to being the best one he could've used. Still, echoing a sentiment that a few other people in the Court possibly share ("I think your dad was quite a dick. I don't know what Surma ever saw in him.") hardly warrants what Annie did in response, deep-seated daddy issues or not. And honestly, I'd argue that Annie needs someone to fight against the vastly overinflated view she has of her father. Her father's basically treating her in a way that's near abusive, and no one that knew him can say anything good about him. She needs to come down from that idealised view and be prepared to move on, or by the time she meets him for real - or finds out he's never coming back, which would seem totally plausible to many people that knew him - she's going to have a devastating and horrible shock. Rey's a dick about it, but hiding from her what their real feelings on Anthony is hardly the more moral option, in the long term.
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quote:I mean he shouldn't be so distant, granted, but we really don't know *why* he's gone. It could be "poo poo dad" up to "Wacky magical bullshit, up to and including making sure this doesn't happen to his daughter in the future". Still probably should have dropped a letter or something by this point, yeah. Until we know *why* he's gone though, it's just guess work. And trying to destroy a little girl's father because of it seems...jumping the gun slightly. That's very much something you ease into. If the only excuse you have for Anthony is 'weird previously unmentioned magic that makes it impossible to, you know, make a phone call', and 'maybe he's going to do something to ensure Antimony doesn't get ill too when sometime in the next decades she decides to have a child, and that's more important than being around during Annie's childhood', then this is pretty freaking weak. You might are well speculate that Anja might have had it wrong and Surma actually did love Rey towards the end. The point of Rey and Eglamore is quite simple: it's not that they would have been better for Surma - but that they would have, and currently are better for Antimony, than that douche Anthony. And in the end, Surma chose the Court over Anthony. She sent Antimony to the Court. (And of course, this is assuming that Anthony didn't have Surma conceive Antimony on Court orders. The group of childhood friends of Surma we see are vaguely a dissident faction within the court, after all - they sent Annie and Kat to Diego's basement, and had them investigate the Jeanne issue.) Fangz fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Dec 2, 2010 |
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quote:No they didn't? All that Anja knew about Diego's basement was that there were a bunch of robots that didn't work. It wasn't until Annie and Kat put Robot's chip in the right model that the elaborate fight started, and then Robot revealed Jeanne's memorial. My reading was always that the scene with the two afterwards suggested that they knew something was up. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=401 And then how that led to her telling them how to use the Blinker stone (which Anja has some experience with using...), and how to remote view through it, as well as a story about how Anja is pushing the boundaries of science. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=522 There's other hints too, like: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=547 Also, Jones's position is odd, to say the least. She did say to Antimony that the Court and Gillitie Wood were equally as bad. OKAY, it's total supposition! Whatever! Detetsu posted:
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quote:Well, no, Anthony actually did that in the end. No, it was on Surma's final wishes. The author's word on it is that Anthony didn't have an opinion on it. Also, child abandonment is borderline illegal in the UK, http://www.lawandparents.co.uk/child-abandonment.html. Fangz fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Dec 2, 2010 |
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I don't think Gunnerkrigg Court is a 'total monsters' sort of comic.
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Fecha posted:I'm pretty sure Coyote promised no harm would come to her at all. Well, quite possibly that promise only applied to the first time Annie visited, or if she visited with permission. Or to a certain category of harm. quote:Telling the truth in a misleading fashion is the MO of tricksters gods. They also lie from time to time, though. http://www.ilhawaii.net/~stony/lore67.html I mean, several of the Coyote's powers (possession, shapeshifting) are intrinsically about being deceptive. Lying all the time is just boring, but saving up that big lie for the one moment it counts...?
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The reactions of Rey etc might be fun. Honestly we have no idea what is fun for the Coyote at this point. But I suspect we are about to find out.
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I strongly doubt the Coyote's tooth can be used against him, if that's what people are alluding to.
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Driven mad with power, Annie unleashes her massive psychic abilities upon the Court, and then, humanity as a whole. Can Kat and Smitty, the last survivors of Gunnerkrigg, possibly stop her in time? Can Boxbot redeem himself at last? Probably not. Someone draw/photoshop a Gunnerkrigg version of Akira, please.
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Parents, don't let kids cheat on their homework. They'll be attempting murder next. Also, Kat is going to be sad.
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I don't really see the fire as a firewall, since it seems to just expand and expand. Assuming it's not, even if Annie didn't harm Eglamore, she'll have to live with the fact that in her anger she tried to harm someone who was just trying to protect her.
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It's all very aww now, but I have the distinct impression that Annie is going to find herself stumbling into the Gillitie Forest Happy Trees Re-education Camp for Under-12s or something.
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So this is where Ysengrin sorts Annie out with her very own wooden mecha suit, right?
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Eglamore is a nice guy, he just wants to protect his friends. Also Kat probably still has a crush on him. Why are you so mean to Eglamore? Also Ysengrin is an unhinged dude who literally tried his very hardest to murder Annie (for disrespecting Coyote) previously, and is only not doing so now on orders from Coyote. He is not the good guy.
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Ka0 posted:Pretty sure Anthony knows it was all his fault and cannot bear to even look at the living proof of it. Given that Surma thought to tell Annie that her father still loved her without any prompting from her, it seems suggestive that she has reason to think that Anthony no longer does, or will be imminently acting in a way that suggests that he no longer does. Anthony is such an arsehole.
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Well, it may well be that there's an entirely innocent explanation, but Surma probably wasn't referring to where Anthony is now, since from the ages this was a long time before Anthony broke off contact completely and disappeared. And Surma is, as established, kinda a habitual liar and manipulator (albeit for positive reasons, maybe?) so... Just saying, it continues to look not so good for Anthony. And Coyote is super suspicious, and I still think he has something to do with all of this.
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So THAT's what Coyote having his eye on Annie meant.... Mind is blown. EDIT: well, maybe anyway. But it makes sense.
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DontMockMySmock posted:I still like this explanation, because there's no other reason for her to be so heavy. But the question I have is: how does this: Maybe Jones just knows every language.
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dumb brunette posted:We at least saw both of them when he was juggling them for Annie (he "caught" one and then the other in each side of his face) and that was after Jones had already been introduced. Coyote's bodyparts regrow immediately when removed (see his tooth), so it would not be inconsistent. I guess we'll have to wait for Monday to see more, but I like this a lot, because it makes sense a lot of sense with the earlier 'cover art', and Jones' interest in Jeanne. EDIT: The thing that counts against Jones being Hathor is that Hathor was also the goddess of motherhood, and in myths is the mother of Ra, whereas the Word of Tom on whether Jones has any children is an emphatic 'no'. And her favourite thing is 'discovery', which doesn't belong in Hathor's portifolio. Fangz fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Dec 25, 2010 |
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idonotlikepeas posted:This seems to be one of the few boundaries on Coyote. He can give people things, but once he does he's given them away and no longer possesses them himself. He made a substitute tooth, but really the knife is still his tooth and the tooth is still a rock. Yes, and the key to this theory would be whether Coyote has the use of both of his eyes, or whether one is just for show. Does he have a tendency to approach people from one direction? etc. Him juggling his eyeballs means nothing. The coyote has also more than two eyes, IIRC, so that clouds the issue. Or we can just wait for Tom to explain. quote:If Jones were Coyote's eye, she would not be a neutral party to the Forest and the Court. Given Surma's activities, the neutrality of supposedly neutral parties seems rather exaggerated. Jones claims to be a neutral party, (and even if she is part of the Coyote, she probably can still rebel), but word of Tom also says she has previously purposefully lied to the Court. Anyway, this is just wild speculation at the moment, but with the earlier discussion of that cover art, I just can't unsee it. EDIT2: quote:One time he threw an eye so high it became a star. Fangz fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Dec 25, 2010 |
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Tea-san posted:I'm really thinking about stopping/getting rid of my Formspring. It really shouldn't be required reading for my comic. Yeah... I think it'll probably be a good idea. Or just save up the significant questions and answer them once they are revealed in the comic.
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Huh, I don't read the final panel as the Coyote being shocked, or angry. (And even if I did, I wouldn't trust that to be his real emotion.) I think he's thinking about how to take advantage of the situation, since Annie is at least temporarily on his side.
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Haha. Don't keep underestimating Coyote, people.
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Sulevis posted:He'd probably seriously gently caress it up or set himself up for future spectacular failure, because that's how trickster god stories go, usually. Um, how many Coyote stories have you read? I think Coyote is very much the threat the Court thinks he is. But we'll have to wait and see to find out!
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Sulevis posted:Yeah, okay, that's true. There are a billion Coyote stories, so. All those stories are told by himself as a self-introduction to Antimony. They are meaningful, as the image Coyote wishes to present for himself. They may well be true stories, but whether they accurately describe him at all times is quite a different question. Towards Antimony, he certainly makes an effort to appear an old ridiculous fool. But we have little idea of how he appears before other people, we known that he has a 'great secret' which makes Ysengrin angry to even mention, and we know lots of other people are deeply suspicious of him and have in the past resorted to extreme measures to protect themselves from him. It seems rather bold to categorise Coyote as just one of the many aspects of mythological Coyote, knowing all this. Fangz fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Dec 30, 2010 |
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22 Eargesplitten posted:What bugs me is that at one point Tom mentioned that Surma's illness was something Annie couldn't get. Maybe he meant to say that Annie was not in a position to get it at the time Surma had it. Annie is incapable of getting close to anyone, and hence will never be afflicted. quote:I just don't buy some people's insistence that Coyote is the Joker. There is a sort of middle ground between lovable bumbling fool, and malevonent arch villain. EDIT: My theory on Annie is that Annie is descended from Jeanne and the elf-guy. Fangz fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 1, 2011 |
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Well, 'steals the soul of the mother when born' could well be passed down from Anthony. That said, it seems unlikely as a theory. EDIT: That said.... have we seen Surma show any profound etheric ability? IIRC, Anthony helped build the etheric computer-thingie that constrains Reynardine, so he is certainly capable. Fangz fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jan 5, 2011 |
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