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Ka0 posted:And Diego did nothing. Hell no, dude just had some major regrets immediately after and spent the rest of his life pathetically trying to convince himself that he was just a pawn.
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# ¿ Sep 27, 2010 19:37 |
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 22:15 |
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wdarkk posted:Rereading the old pages has really got me wondering exactly what went on when Reynardine entered the stuffed dog. It sure looked like he was going for Annie, but given how he adores Surma killing her daughter seems a bit off. However, if he was actually going for the dog toy, he wouldn't have reacted so strongly to Jim knocking her out of the way... My two cents is that the whole thing was a ruse. The dog was his target all along, he just wanted everyone thinking he was dead until he could get away so he faked like he was making for Annie in order to get blocked by Eglamore. He didn't realize he'd be forced to obey Annie until too late, but hey. Still a marked improvement in his situation. Edit: And once he realizes, he tells her because he really just wants to be able to hang out with the closest thing he'll get to Surma again without Annie freaking out all the time. Benagain fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Sep 30, 2010 |
# ¿ Sep 30, 2010 17:13 |
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Dammit Who? posted:Jones also referred to teleportation as 'distorting space'. Perhaps she just likes the word 'distort' and makes excuses to use it in conversation. Jones deemed it psychologically prudent to have one quirk, and felt that occasionally using the word distortion too much would be harmlessly enjoyable.
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# ¿ Oct 25, 2010 21:16 |
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Anyone else picking up on the implication that Anthony deliberately did it as the only way he could think of to save some part of his wife? Or no, because logically Surma would have picked up on what was happening. Ah, got it. It wasn't her illness, Annie had some kind of magical birth defect and Surma deliberately gave the kid her soul. This had the side effect of gradually draining away her will and passion to live, causing Annie to be raised by an increasingly robotic mother and an absent father just as her emotions are peaking. Doesn't help that the first time she was in full possession of her emotional faculties was directly after she escorted her mother to the afterlife, which may in itself have been a hallucination/metaphor for the last bit of Surma becoming Annie. Holy crap this is depressing to think about. Also, this is pretty standard "parent can't stand child who killed other parent" times one million because she's the literal reincarnation of said dead parent. Maybe part of the reason he stays away is because it wouldn't be good for either of them? He can't be a father to her when everything about her down to the soul screams of his dead wife. In his own twisted good way, he's leaving her with people who can be friends and mentors to her naturally. Edit: This also explains the make up wearing, the old-soul in new-body vibe she gives off half the time, the fact that she's obviously unused to her own emotions...holy poo poo this is brilliant. Benagain fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Nov 29, 2010 |
# ¿ Nov 29, 2010 19:10 |
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Soylentbits posted:So Reynardine initially tried to kill Annie because he was pissed that she killed Surma right? And he gave up on it because she reminded him too much of her mother? Seriously, the more I look back at that the more firmly I'm convinced that he wasn't actually trying to kill her, he was setting the whole thing up to make it look like he was dead. The first time he sees Annie he comments on the toy, he knows Eglamore is watching and can/will block him, and he loudly yells about how he's been foiled and how he's going to die as he quietly backs into a toy that no one knows he can possess. He basically acts like a super villain because that's what's expected of him, then quietly inserts himself somewhere where he can watch over and protect her. The whole "being her slave" bit was something he didn't predict.
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# ¿ Nov 29, 2010 23:51 |
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Zoolooman posted:The only good thing in Renard's old life was shattered, and then she forced him to stand and be mocked for never having the only thing he cared about. When everyone is throwing boulders like that, they're all to blame. And it's a little bit her fault too, because she made him stay in a form where he doesn't appear to have the emotional maturity or wisdom to deal with that. Which lead to him escalating, which I can't see him doing in his wolf form. Doesn't absolve him of it but yeah, everyone's being a dick.
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2010 01:15 |
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Brannock posted:Stages of grief:
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2010 03:12 |
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Angry Guacamole posted:I see absolutely no issue with this. Aww, really? He's not a bad guy! He just went on the metaphysical equivalent of a non-stop, involuntary meth trip for two-three weeks. You go without sleep for that long and see how rational and loving a person you are.
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# ¿ Dec 7, 2010 21:35 |
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Guava posted:Guys I'm pretty sure Coyote can't die. It's less that he can't die and more that he'd regard it as a trivial nuisance, maybe use the time to nap a bit before coming back to life in a week or so.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2010 19:03 |
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There is a story where coyote sees a beautiful woman across a lake, so he does the logical thing and detaches his penis then throws it over so it can seduce her. tl;dr coyote is a Rad Dude. Edit: Seriously, how loving awesome is that. "Oh hey, instead of actually crossing the lake, I'll just throw over the relevant bit and get on with my day." I mean it gets stolen later on but still.
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# ¿ Dec 30, 2010 07:23 |
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In a stunning twist, everyone but annie and her mom is a vampire, and the whole thing is a cover up for the fact that she's the only viable source of blood in the world.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2011 17:25 |
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FredMSloniker posted:Plus, given that apparently everyone she knows has known this and not told her, she may well suspect Kat of being in on the conspiracy , even if she hasn't consciously thought of that. Hey, 13 year old girl. Your great-great-great-great grandma was a fire elemental! Cool huh? Oh also you're directly responsible for your mother's death. Not saying it's your fault or anything! Just, y'know, wanted you to know. I'm guessing they were holding off until she was 18 or something. That's not something you tell a child, or even a teenager.
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# ¿ Jan 7, 2011 22:12 |
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Mickey Eye posted:Maybe there was one around his ear. yeah this is what my money's on.
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# ¿ Jan 21, 2011 16:08 |
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wyoming posted:Oh please, Kat basically said "I'm tired of being friends with the weird kid."
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2011 03:50 |
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Geekner posted:I think it was more of a nervous twitch, when she realized what she said. You don't use the L-word in dams or underwater research stations unless one is happening at that very moment. But she's an aquatic creature and her PhD isn't in safety so it's an understandable slip.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2011 15:52 |
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They're only aysmmetric in this dimension.
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2011 19:16 |
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Bud's throwin' the horns pretty hard there.
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# ¿ Jul 18, 2011 17:29 |
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Alien space crabs watching you through mystical means probably put a damper on romance of any kind.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2011 17:08 |
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I don't think it's that the brain spiders permanently caused damage, more that they keep you from sleeping and remove all those pesky things like morality and empathy that keep you from acting on every impulse you have. He was probably attracted to Zimmy before this, is what I'm saying.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2011 14:17 |
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It's almost like her personality is tied to some element that can be either very nice or very nasty with little to no warning before it changes.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2011 13:58 |
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Shocking truth of Annie's origins revealed.
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# ¿ Sep 7, 2011 14:26 |
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Tea-san, congrats on remembering that teenagers think with random hormone fluctuations.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2011 14:17 |
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Coyote is the kind of guy who will throw a hundred balls in the air in a crowded room just so he can see who catches them. Some of the balls are grenades.
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2011 19:05 |
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Because if Annie wasn't able to leave her mother's side until her mom finally died. Ergo, if she's transferring in, that's kind of an automatic death notice. Also I kind of hear Renard as Michael Dorn for some reason.
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# ¿ Nov 4, 2011 04:48 |
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Random thought that occurred to me today: Is it possible that whatever the hell Jones is, Annie's dad is something similar?
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# ¿ Nov 7, 2011 21:46 |
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Now do you mean love like a man has for his wife, or like the love a man has for a fine cuban cigar? Seriously though, this was a very nice chapter in their whole thing. Tom does a good job of giving you enough prior information so that this isn't a total surprise but still feels revelatory.
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# ¿ Dec 9, 2011 16:41 |
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I'm reading The Pale King right now and I'm in the middle of a scene that's exactly like this, just endless equations that I don't understand. For a second I crossed wires and thought that Annie was in training to be an accountant. Yes I don't know math for poo poo beyond basic trig.
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2012 20:10 |
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My favorite thematic nickname was a guy in college that everyone knew as "Walks With Sandals."
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2012 02:14 |
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"I was only trying to post..."
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2012 19:51 |
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Dodgeball posted:No sir, I don't like it.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2012 01:48 |
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*fistpump* yessssssss.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2012 05:38 |
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You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. Yeah you can adopt and have a kid and raise them and love them without giving them your soul. But what would be the point? Then you'd just live for a while, and die, and your fire would go out. Permanently. It's not a simple "If I have a kid, I die." What would happen to your soul if there wasn't someplace for it to go? Ysengrim's right on this, like on so many other things. It was a gift, one of an unbroken chain of gifts that stretches back to when someone first found beauty in a fire. It's not death, it's lighting a new fire from the embers of the old. Maybe fire elemental people age at an accelerated rate? Maybe they're not long for this world anyway?
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# ¿ Mar 1, 2012 17:29 |
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I always put it down to either the quasi-reincarnation thing she's got going with her mom and the influence that has on her behavior OR a kid doing something that lets her feel closer to her dead mom through something that they shared. Or both.
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# ¿ Jun 19, 2012 01:09 |
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Emotions are confusing and maddening, even for not-robots.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2012 15:25 |
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Haledjian posted:I guess that old line about the Court being "Man's endeavor to become God" has taken on a more literal shade of meaning. Cool. Ehhhhh. That would a) probably utterly destroy humanity as we know it and replace it with something entirely different b) might destroy the universe entirely, since all of the entities created by it have a fair amount of very real power and would probably object to being cut off from realty.
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# ¿ Dec 3, 2012 18:10 |
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http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=54 I always thought it was weird too until I went back and specifically looked at the framing of this page. I don't think it's stretching much to say that in the second panel Reynardine is presented as kind of backing into the doll while yelling loudly about how angry he is. Combine that with him specifically noticing and referencing the stuffed animal, plus his genuine concern for her after she passes out, (if he didn't care why fake it for Eglamore?) I think it's clear he planned it. It wasn't the best plan, but again, he's been locked up for a while now. Any plan would seem like a good one. FWIW I don't think he would've possessed Annie under any circumstances and would've just let himself die if it came to that.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2013 19:46 |
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Penguissimo posted:To play devil's advocate: Actually re-reading this the page before seals it for me. For us, Reynardine yelling "I need...YOUR BODY" is useful exposition and lets us know what the stakes are. BUT it was also explained in the post Eglamore rescue chat and is kind of unnecessary. Tom's never really had an issue with having weird poo poo happen with no immediate explanation. Keeping in mind that Eglamore had just walked out the door and has the literal ability to jump tall buildings in a single bound, I think Reynardine deliberately yelled out his evil plan so that Eglamore would hear and come back for the rescue. He had to make it look real since he wanted Eglamore focused entirely on saving Annie rather than killing him before he could go through with it. Edit: Yeah seriously, if Reynardine wanted to possess Annie that badly he could've just done it the second she walked in the room, with no yelling whatsoever, and probably gotten away scott free.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2013 20:22 |
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Tea-san posted:I taped a sharpie to the end of a broom handle for this one! I see a convention in the future where you are suspended by a series of ropes from the ceiling and asked to churn out as much art as you can in the space of 15 minutes in this style. It'd be For The Children, so you can't say no.
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# ¿ Mar 25, 2013 21:30 |
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One Legged Cat posted:Honestly, it seems like the best possible thing that could happen to Annie is for her to nurture those girl-lovin' tendencies, because the alternative is a life of celibacy or becoming another link in the endless chain of tragedy/ People keep saying this poo poo and I don't get it at all. It's sad, yeah, but it's not an endless chain of tragedy anymore than your parents eventually dying after they have you is. Fire elementals apparently give their own flame to their kids and die out themselves. It's a gift that starts a new life, with new possibilities. It's sad that they don't get to experience more of life with their children, but at least they get to give them life and hope and love while they're alive. Like, what is the alternative here. Die alone and never having loved or risked anything, because if you had a child you will die sooner. Let your flame gutter out rather than light a new one.
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# ¿ May 2, 2024 22:15 |
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I wonder if he was dealing with physical needs at this point in time?
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