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Totally TWISTED posted:I remember last year. But I never blamed Eagle I blamed the coach for not having the balls to play Mutch back to back to back to finish the game. Still the skill and strategy displayed this year was phenomenal. I think Mutch last year was the greatest single game for a jammer that I've ever seen, but Scald was mvp no doubt this year. Mutch's face during the lineup for that last jam....
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I would venture a guess that 90% of leagues are terrible if you ask the right people. Ask officials about leagues and they'll give you a list of who they won't work for, ask skaters and they'll tell you who they won't skate against, ask retired skaters and they'll tell you who drove them to leave. Sometimes I think the "by the skaters" part is a detriment because of all these issues that come up. Also, how big is the Bay Area, because the Boston area has a ton of leagues, but I'm drawing like a two hour radius around the city.
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The bay area is the size of a state over there. I didn't count the Black Widows before: Sonoma Resurrection Undead Bay Area Peninsula Silicon Valley Santa Cruz Monterey Sacred Sac City Black Widows (RCDL) Also within 2 hours of Hayward, the center point for all the above leagues: Sintral High Country Loco City Port City (USARS)
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I think I'm too out of the loop at this point to make an accurate list, but I think there are 3 in southern Maine, 4 in southern NH, 5 in eastern MA, 1 in western MA, 1 in RI, and I have no idea what CT leagues are in what parts of the state. I'm guessing the Bay Area has a similar crunch for officials that New England gets when you have a weekend with more than two or three layers hosting games.
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Mr. Powers posted:I think I'm too out of the loop at this point to make an accurate list, but I think there are 3 in southern Maine, 4 in southern NH, 5 in eastern MA, 1 in western MA, 1 in RI, and I have no idea what CT leagues are in what parts of the state. The official crunch is nationwide. Our league decided to move our traditional bout weekend for this upcoming travel season in order to hopefully conflict with less of the smaller surrounding local leagues and encourage more officials to work our bouts.
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La boucherie de Paris lost one of their skaters last night, another was wounded but is apparent safe. gently caress, man. 
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Oh wow, didn't know we had a roller derby thread! My little girl is on the local derby team.
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https://wftda.com/news/2016-international-wftda-playoffs-and-championships-locations-announced Cool. Vancouver is hosting one of the Div 1 playoffs this year. I'm definitely going to have to check out some of that.
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HPL posted:https://wftda.com/news/2016-international-wftda-playoffs-and-championships-locations-announced Part of me hopes that we get that tourney this year, because Vancouver is sweet and I've never been there. The other part of me balks at trying to raise that kind of travel fund for 20 skaters and two coaches.
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Part of me is looking forward to the hilarity of a bunch of skaters without passports.
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Would have liked one playoff to be hosted in Europe. If nothing else it might raise a bit of awareness of the absurd situation that all Euro leagues have been in for years when it comes to travelling to tournaments/playoffs.
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Beeswax posted:Would have liked one playoff to be hosted in Europe. If nothing else it might raise a bit of awareness of the absurd situation that all Euro leagues have been in for years when it comes to travelling to tournaments/playoffs. The MRDA is planning to have a men's playoff in Europe later this year, with the winners advancing to MRDA Championships. The MRDA also said there would be two playoff sites in the U.S., though I'm hearing that might not actually happen. And since the thread has been revived for a spell, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W60wYwOP_b8 In Los Angeles next month, there will be a special exhibition game featuring the crazy-rear end Japanese style of roller derby, as seen above. It'll be between an all-Japan team and a TBD USA team (as also seen above) with both men and women playing. They will be building a banked track on the beach right next to the Santa Monica Pier and have it setup for the whole weekend, with skating demonstrations, an L.A. Derby Dolls expo, and the main event, the Rollergames World Series. The website with more info is here. This could be the start of a new professional roller derby league. The man behind this production told me as much. (He's #17 in red in the above video.) WindyMan fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Feb 4, 2016 |
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Beeswax posted:Would have liked one playoff to be hosted in Europe. If nothing else it might raise a bit of awareness of the absurd situation that all Euro leagues have been in for years when it comes to travelling to tournaments/playoffs. Maybe you guys should just move to America 
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bgreman posted:Part of me hopes that we get that tourney this year, because Vancouver is sweet and I've never been there. The other part of me balks at trying to raise that kind of travel fund for 20 skaters and two coaches. The good news is that you'll be living like royalty once you're here what with the weak-rear end Canadian dollar.
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overseer07 posted:Part of me is looking forward to the hilarity of a bunch of skaters without passports. We're already running into this problem and even more complex border-crossing issues. We've instructed anyone without a passport (or with an expired one) to get on it now, and there's only a 50% chance we'll be assigned to a Canadian playoff site. We're really hoping for Columbia. It's the least travel and we have a pretty good relationship with their league AND they host one of the best afterparties in derby.
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overseer07 posted:Part of me is looking forward to the hilarity of a bunch of skaters without passports. i'm waiting for "i can't actually leave the country" or "i can't get into canada because i had a DUI"
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Also, will Canada require work visas for the skaters who have active endorsements/sponsorships?
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Noob question here: If I buy some new plates will they go on my existing boots? Is is just a simple matter of removing the old plastic plates and screwing the new metal ones on? Also, does 7mm or 8mm trucks really matter?
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spacetoaster posted:Noob question here: If I buy some new plates will they go on my existing boots? Is is just a simple matter of removing the old plastic plates and screwing the new metal ones on? the first one depends on where the mounting holes are, if theyre different between plates you need to drill new holes and make sure the plates are centered correctly the second really only matters for buying new bearings, as the 7/8 mm is how thick the axles on them are.
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downtimejesus posted:the first one depends on where the mounting holes are, if theyre different between plates you need to drill new holes and make sure the plates are centered correctly Spookydonut posted:Get 8mm unless you really know exactly why you need 7mm. I'm looking at getting these: http://rollerskates.discountskatewear.com/p-2714-sure-grip-avenger-aluminum-black.aspx?gclid=CL6qr9DrtssCFUg8gQodakcJjg Along with some aluminum core wheels. I'm a 240 pound male skater and right now the nylon just flexes too much (another dude on the team had his just break in half while he were skating). The plates are expensive enough without me having to buy a whole new boot.
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spacetoaster posted:I'm looking at getting these: http://rollerskates.discountskatewear.com/p-2714-sure-grip-avenger-aluminum-black.aspx?gclid=CL6qr9DrtssCFUg8gQodakcJjg Along with some aluminum core wheels. Get the Mg plates not the Al plates, the weight difference is worth it. You can do the not that recent fad of buying like a regular shoe/boot/soccer cleats and mounting the plates to them.
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Spookydonut posted:Get the Mg plates not the Al plates, the weight difference is worth it. I'd love to get the Mg plates, but holy cow at the cost. I'm just now getting over the heart attack the wheel cost gave me. *edit* I'm not "that" worried about the weight difference between the MG and AL plates. I am a gym bro.
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spacetoaster posted:I'd love to get the Mg plates, but holy cow at the cost. I'm just now getting over the heart attack the wheel cost gave me. Depends how dedicated you are to skating, those plates will likely last you forever so getting the Mg might make sense in the long term.
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So, I've verbally expressed interest in reffing to my wife, whose disorganized rabble of a league is always in need of assistance. I admit to second thoughts, if only because I just enjoy being a chill widow rather than actually do work. How crazy am I?
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Natty Ninefingers posted:So, I've verbally expressed interest in reffing to my wife, whose disorganized rabble of a league is always in need of assistance. I admit to second thoughts, if only because I just enjoy being a chill widow rather than actually do work. How crazy am I? Very. I've rarely seen this go well. Usually it results in extra bickering when you go home after a scrim/bout/whatever. I haven't done this personally, but I know a few people that have.
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Also, depending on how the league is, you may be overworked, underappreciated, outright abused, or any combination of those. I started reffing when the only issue with the league was slight underappreciation, which turned into underappreciation, then as people retired the overworked kicked in, and then appreciation dropped to zero and the outright abuse came in. Don't worry, though, roller derby is all about acceptance of everyone!
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Malgrin posted:Very. I've rarely seen this go well. Usually it results in extra bickering when you go home after a scrim/bout/whatever. I've also seen it go just fine on many occasions, for what it's worth. I started dating a skater in 2010 before I knew anything about roller derby, and became her bench manager in 2011. No issues. The next season, she was captain of that team, and we worked together as leadership all season with nary a problem. After she retired, she moved on to coaching briefly and we coached one of our home teams together for a season. The only disputes were the regular leadership-related ones and it never bled over into our home life. I eventually became the head coach of our WFTDA charter team, and she is now the head of our skating officials. We work together to try to make our league better where we can and rarely butt heads over anything derby-related. I think that's something, considering her actions during bouts have a direct impact on the team I'm coaching.
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bgreman posted:I've also seen it go just fine on many occasions, for what it's worth. What you described is very different from a skater/ref relationship, though.
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Natty Ninefingers posted:So, I've verbally expressed interest in reffing to my wife, whose disorganized rabble of a league is always in need of assistance. I admit to second thoughts, if only because I just enjoy being a chill widow rather than actually do work. How crazy am I? I think you should do it. I've been getting my skating skills up and doing all the NSO positions for a little while now. About to start being a skating ref for the practice scrimmages soon (would have been tonight if I wasn't sick). Mr. Powers posted:appreciation dropped to zero and the outright abuse came in. Can you tell me about this? I'm working with our junior league now, but the women's team is starting to bug me about working with them too. I haven't seen any abuse, or even lack of appreciation. But I probably just don't have any visibility on it. spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 03:16 on Mar 17, 2016 |
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spacetoaster posted:Can you tell me about this? I'm working with our junior league now, but the women's team is starting to bug me about working with them too. I haven't seen any abuse, or even lack of appreciation. But I probably just don't have any visibility on it. It corresponded with a rise in the rankings to D1. We had one certified ref and a bunch that weren't interested in that level of officiating (including me, I had been, but then became disillusioned), and I think the team basically got spoiled and expected that they would draw in all sorts of certified refs (we got some that would visit when they didn't have a home game commitment). So, basically you had people playing at tournament level with certified 3-5 officials fully staffed, and then scrimmaging with 3-7 non certified officials (and maybe a level 2) (this includes skating and non). On top of that there was internal drama, and 90% of the chartered team left after that season. So tempers are already quick to flare up, and you've got about 3 skating officials trying to run a scrimmage.
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I'm not a paying member of the league, but I ref at scrimmages with a local D1 team and they're lucky if they get 3 actual refs at practice. Most weeks it's one or two refs (including me and I'm still a beginner at reffing) plus skaters as stand-in refs to at least make it 2 IPRs and 2 JRs. While you can easily be overlooked/under-appreciated, there is no abuse or disrespect aimed at refs by skaters. I haven't heard of that sort of behaviour among the other top Euro leagues either, but then again I've been told that getting poo poo from skaters etc. is a lot more common in the states.
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It probably is a lot more common here. There seems to be a movement against it, but it was accepted as a part of the sport for a long time. I was told that it's derby and you just have to deal with it by more experienced refs. I think the change is that the more established leagues are making a concerted effort to not be assholes to their officials. The smaller leagues seem to be pretty good to them, but I'd say were 50/50 on hostility to outside officials a few years ago when I stopped.
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Yeah, our entire officiating staff left practice two hours early once due to skaters being abusive. Most of them figured it out and have been much better towards us ever since. I think they finally started realizing that being a top 10 league doesn't mean anything to officials.
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Mr. Powers posted:What you described is very different from a skater/ref relationship, though. We've had plenty of skater/ref relationships in our league (I can think of five off the top of my head) without a ton of interpersonal problems (at least, problems that bled over into public league business; I wouldn't be able to speak to whether it impacted those couples domestically). Underappreciation can definitely be a thing for all league volunteers and abuse of officials came close to being a crisis for us, but our officials have begun an effort to try to get rid of the "us vs them" mentality that is often present in the league - official dynamic. Cooler heads prevailed and we seem to have gotten through that rough patch, though a few officials did quit or reduce their participation. A big part of the dynamic is that the greater official community has a culture of non-fraternization, which I think is kind of dumb. At a tournament, officials can be aloof and try not to fraternize with the skaters, sure, but when you're working with the same people day in, day out, it's kind of counter-productive to maintain that strict separation. It's a better atmosphere when everyone is friendly with each other. Several of our officials are former skaters who originally got into reffing/officiating to keep close with the league community, and I think that helps foster a more open relationship between the skaters and officials.
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Does anyone know if the bizarro derby thing with Japan vs USA in Cali is going to be streamed today?
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No, it's a commercial event. I'm here and doing some stuff on my Twitter. http://twitter.com/derbynotes
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