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Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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You know what you signed up for, just give us more money and we’re gonna launch more garbage in the skies in an attempt to make our company invaluable and when it doesn’t work we’ll have the us government keep us afloat or launch an ipo and say we’re doing 10Gb/s in 3. Years once we have 100000 sats in the air and gently caress you.

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Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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shadow puppet of a posted:

If Elon can deliver high speed internet pornography to the good people of Giblin island Ontario then I don't see how his plan is all bad.

All porn is replaced with Elon’s fat head

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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When did Comcast come to Canada?

Nobody here knows wtf you’re talking about.

Nitr0 fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Apr 29, 2021

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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codo27 posted:

This is Fourth Reich Telecom's playbook. They are instructed to do this by management. They are the worst company in canada and I hate that their fibre is the best product.

Best product???

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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You Canadians sure are serious about your boxes of ram and fans and poo poo.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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What amazes me most about this is actually Interac. How could a national service only have one ISP? Interac is literally down across the country because Rogers went down? Come on guys.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Karatela posted:

I generally manage my internet needs via throwing someone nearby some money and get wifi that way, but it's been a shitshow and I am looking at setting something up myself. I'm in Edmonton, and while I was poking around with what is available, I came across Oxio, and was wondering if anyone had experience with them, either good or bad or nightmare.

Like, on first looks, it seems pretty good (compared to Shaw, it has faster speeds, infinite data vs the Shaw cap, its monthly vs being only two year plans, no install fees and its like 25% cheaper than the most similar plan), and they break down how they make up bill costs and explicitly mention its to spite the bigger ISPs and the CRTC for being wishy-washy jerks about going back on reducing tariff fees and such, which I can get behind.

Some other poking around says its new to Alberta as of like this summer, but not new to BC/Ontario/Quebec, and I couldn't find anyone talking poo poo about it, just a few who seemed up on it.

So it seems too good to be true, and I am pretty cynical, but I figure someone might be able to throw in some more info here while I am looking at other options too, and if there is actually something good here that would be nice.

They've been around for about 2 years total in any province. It's another reseller. Nice website and some good words. I'm skeptical of a ceo with no other experience other than this company.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcandrecampagna/

They've only had an ASN since 2020-08-18 so pretty brand new. They just started peering with 2 other providers in August which is an improvement because any isp only peering with one source is bad.

https://bgp.he.net/AS398721#_whois

I dunno. Try it, if it doesn't work for you, cancel it?

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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EngineerJoe posted:

The real question is when is Teksavvy going to get acquired. I just cancelled today after 15 years of mostly good service.


This is why I cancelled:



Never, because they don’t own any last mile infrastructure and there’s no reason for any of the big 3 to care about them.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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EngineerJoe posted:

Everything sucks until Rogers or Bell bring fiber to your door

Why just those two?

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Chris Knight posted:

Who else is doing last mile rollouts to single family homes?

Telus, Sasktel, Videotron, CityWest, Teksavvy, O-net, Xplornet, Canadian Fibre Optics, Vianet, Moby, Novus, Cogeco, etc etc.

Nitr0 fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Sep 5, 2022

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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CRTC OTHER TARIFF NOTICES
[CRTC Tariff Notice] Telus TN 0573 – Introduce a Credit Card Processing Fee
• Telus proposed a new credit card processing fee of 1.5% of the payment amount.
• Telus noted that in 2018, a class action lawsuit resulted in Visa and Mastercard agreeing to modify their No-Surcharge Rules, allowing merchants to surcharge customers up to a cap starting October 6, 2022
• In a letter to Telus dated August 15, 2022, the Commission wrote that, having received many interventions opposing this tariff, the Commission will not grant interim approval of this tariff.


See! Things do happen when people actually take notice of what's happening. That's some scummy poo poo, how many other companies are going to throw on a credit card surcharge after October 6.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Tagra posted:

:dance: :woop: :yotj:


Of course the truth is right here:

"We won't grant interim approval but we will happily grant you full approval when no one is looking anymore."

Looks like Telus just decided to do it anyway.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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I do, and still live in Canada, who would ever want to move to the US

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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unknown posted:

We've deployed Starlink in Nunavut and far enough north that even Starlink is like "you're at the edge of our service area" and we're able to have a solid VPN connection with only occasional outages (2-3x day) of a few minutes at a time because there's not enough satellites deployed that far north currently. Been amazing in comparison to microwave links. Your friend probably screwed up his dish placement.

This is so location dependant that a blanket statement of “your dish placement is bad” doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Fibre is always going to be better because you’re not dealing with copper anywhere. It’s all light. Theoretically your speeds are unlimited, and trials are happening now for 50G PON. That would be 50 gig to your house.

Wait another 5 years, and 100G might exist over PON.

DOCSIS has a limit, and will fall farther out of a favour as the years go by.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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MasterBuilder posted:

What's the likelihood after consolidation Telus and Rogers will go back to their fuckers days. Getting dicked around by them back in university has put a bad taste in my mouth and even blazing fast internet isn't going to wash that out.

100%. Basically all smaller independent ISP's have gone. You have maybe 12 left scattered throughout the country, but nothing super large. Now it's the Rogers, Telus and Bell show. You can guarantee the fuckery will be huge.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Just for reference.

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Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Mister Facetious posted:

Op should add that to the first post

lol he hasn't posted since 2019 so good luck.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Mister Facetious posted:

Clarification: i mean as a price competitive alternative to cable internet

No. Cellular or satellite is not a cost effective or a better service than coax internet.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Ask Telus to come back and fix your connection by moving the cable where it should have been in the first place.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Wouldn’t surprise me. There’s only be a minimum amount of spectrum running right now, and adding all users when you were only calculating half has probably sent the performance in the shitter.

They’ll add some more ran and antenna soon and it’ll fix itself.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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They're probably fine. Looking at their website they're using the Nokia XGS-PON platform which is the best of the best.

Small company, but they seem to be following the same model as Novus in BC. https://www.novusnow.ca/. Connect to MDU's and deliver cheap services where there's not a lot of capital overlay to gain customers.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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I refuse to believe that's all that happened. Coax, fibre or dsl?

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Rogers will have historical levels on hand that the tsr would have used to dispatch a tech. It’s just very weird that rebooting a modem would cause no link. I’ve never heard of that before.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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I'd say it really depends on what service levels you're getting from NWT. Assume they fix your issue and it's stable again, what are your speeds?

A Starlink cell is about 400Mb/s down, and 50Mb/s up. Each cell is around 40km in diameter. Depending on your area and how many people are in your cell, you can experience ok service, or poor service. Plus as you mentioned you'll need to get the thing mounted, make sure you have a clear line of sight to the north (no trees) and then mount and deal with that yourself. Your customer support is also just a ticketing system. No phone numbers, no emails.

It's pretty expensive none the less, but NWT might not be much better, they're probably the 2nd worst ISP now after Xplornet.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Oof. If it was me I would get them to fix your poo poo, then tell them to cut the bill to $90/mo permanently or you're switching.

I hate saying it, but again, depending how many people are in your starlink cell and how your tree situation is at your house, you'll probably have a better experience than NWT.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Precambrian Video Games posted:

... why pointed north? A quick search says the satellites don't go higher than 53' N so surely any dish in the territories would have to point south.

I think that information is outdated. We use approximately 15 Starlinks in various capacities around British Columbia and they all face north. From the NWT/Yukon border south. We don't have any deployed in NWT or Yukon though, so my information may be wrong and you need to face south.

Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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teethgrinder posted:

Dumb question...do smart bulbs, switches, etc potentially cause local WiFi issues? Been using a Nest mesh a few years and finding lately we need to reboot it roughly once a week to restore performance.

I assumed it was my torrents. When I used to use Linksys/Netgear stuff I'd use custom firmware to aggressively shut down stale connections... but I use bittorrent so rarely these days.

Smart bulbs, switches, etc can run on all sorts of frequencies depending on what you have. Some cheaper ones strictly run on 2.4GHz to your router, which wouldn't cause interference. The better ones run using Zigbee which on 2.4GHz run from channel 1 - channel 25. Anything Channel 1 - 11 on 2.4GHz could cause interference with your router. Anything past that won't. Zigbee also uses 902-928MHz which has no impact on your typical wifi router.

You shouldn't have to reboot any "Nest Mesh". I think you have other issues.

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Aug 17, 2005

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mediaphage posted:

have to assume they're reselling as a tpia, right? there's no way they are offering 1gbps cellular internet

Post the plans because I don’t feel like creating an account.

Are they symmetrical?

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Nitr0
Aug 17, 2005

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Mister Facetious posted:

Is it me, or is Start.ca complete poo poo at consistent uptime?

Ever since i switched from TekSavvy because they're too expensive now, they haven't been able to goa single month without outages.

Start is just Telus now, it's probably the same as every other company Telus buys. They don't give a poo poo about uptime, network quality, anything really. Usually they buy the company so they can shut it down and move them to Telus directly.

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