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Shiny Penny
Feb 1, 2009
Ok, so I was raised in a household of old school training, with some serious R-/P+ methodology. There wasn't too much of the "alpha" crap going on, but my dad had little patience for disobedience.

My concerns are that when I bought Loki, those are the methods I used to train him. (Mostly because it was all I knew, and also because at the time my dad was infallible in his knowledge of dog training. Boy was I wrong :downs:) He learned sit and stay very well, but to this day I have problems with him coming to me and I think it stems from that old style of training. Then I got Thor, and actually haven't done a whole lot of training with him, mostly because I've been lurking PI for about a year now and know that old school idea mostly in't used anymore. Now I'd like to start an R+/P- approach with Thor, and if I can, recondition Loki to it as well. I'm afraid that I've made Loki an incredibly anxious, unhappy dog and it breaks my heart knowing that I'm the cause even though I didn't know any better at the time. I've already bought a clicker, and luckily for me, both dogs are incredibly food motivated. I guess my question would be, how hard would it be to "fix" Loki, and where should I start?

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Shiny Penny
Feb 1, 2009

a life less posted:

You've mentioned a few times how subdued Loki is, so it's possible that he'll never be "fixed".

See this is the thing I'm most worried about. However, he becomes a completely different dog when treats are involved, so I'm really hoping that I can really build his confidence up through food.

Rixatrix posted:

If I were you, I'd reteach things from scratch with +R/-P and see what happens. Start with him like with a puppy: load the clicker and teach an easy behaviour, such as targeting.

I figured I'd have to start over. I've been meaning to switch over for a while now, but this thread has really gotten me motivated :)

Shiny Penny
Feb 1, 2009
Hey guys, hopefully this hasn't been beaten to death yet, but I have a quick question about reactivity on walks. My dog Thor positively flips his poo poo when we pass other people/dogs. He is super friendly and just wants to go play, but it's obviously not good for him or for us. So, question: How do I go about teaching him to ignore other walkers/dogs in yards? As soon as I see someone coming do I just stop and cram treats down his throat till they pass? Is there a certain cue I can give him so he knows what we're doing? I imagine I should start it either right before or right after he notices someone coming. Passing dogs in yards might be harder because it's us that has to move, I can' just stop until they've passed. He's otherwise a dream to walk, he's never even pulled. Help!

Shiny Penny
Feb 1, 2009
Wow I wasn't expecting such a large debate to originate from me! You guys kind of lost me in all of the acronyms, but honestly I can't afford a trainer atm, so I was hoping to lay some groundwork on my own. As far as the dog goes, it's not like he completely shuts down when he sees someone/thing, and I can redirect him with varying degrees of effort depending on how close we are to whatever set him off. I can start by walking along more quiet areas for now. He's a total food whore, so that's not a concern of mine. I think in my situation food will be the best distractor until I've got some groundwork done. Any suggestions on how to go about it? Any body cues etc I should look for?

Shiny Penny
Feb 1, 2009
Will do, thanks! I actually already have it, just never got around to reading through it.

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