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We have our dog to sit and 'wait' before she goes out any door (including the car), on leash or off. While she is really, really good at it when someone is with her (door wide open, other dogs and people going in and out is no problem), if she just sees an open door, she'll go through it, just barely pausing on the way out. How do we get her to understand that this also applies without someone next to you? She also likes to sleep in inappropriately tiny beds, which we encourage whenever possible.  (ignore the doofy 'I hate the camera' face, her tail's going a mile a minute)
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Nov 26, 2010 21:09
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Thanks for the reply. Rant incoming! That's pretty much what we've been doing-- but unfortunately I think our circumstances work against us a lot. We're in an apartment complex that's full of awful dog owners who will let their dogs out off leash, and shut the door behind them. I don't really want these dogs either in our apartment, or ours (perfectly understandably) going out to see WTF. She has loose leash walking down pat, so even if we put a long line on her, she'd be responding to THAT, not choosing to ignore the door. I also have pet-stupid 'in-laws' to contend with, who keep two outdoor exclusive dogs, let the little dogs inside climb in the dishwasher, eat off of plates at the table, bite strangers, bark all day, piss everywhere, etc etc. So their only idea of training is to yell "sitsitsitSITSITSITSITSITSIT" at ours until she completes the sit she started when they first yelled, then ignoring her. I'd really hate to keep her away from there, 'cause it is a fenced 5 acre property on which she's allowed to dig extensively and run like crazy (and we would catch unending amounts of hell), but poo poo. She regresses every time we go there, it seems. We can't really get them to have her wait at the door, and they even feed her directly from the dinner table when we explicitly tell them not to-- she gets put in a down-stay far away from the table, that THEY CALL HER OUT OF, and we DO want her to know to go to them just in case-- and now she begs. Edit: actually, writing that and re-reading your post makes me realize what we're doing "wrong"-- currently, it's set up as waiting to go out the door, but it needs to be not going out the door period, until you're told. The reward at the end of how we do it currently is going out the door, not staying in. So when the door is open, she assumes that going out of it is the eventual goal. And being a smartass, she just takes a shortcut. I want a more stupid dog. 
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Nov 28, 2010 07:24
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Crating and/or tethering, maybe in conjunction with closing off certain rooms of the house to her (via baby gates). Combine that with scheduled potty trips (maybe clear a spot of ground so she doesn't have to get cold feet, and throw a sweater on her?), she'll go outside eventually and then you get to throw a potty party with all sorts of treats! She's learned that inside is easier than outside, so you need to make outside WAY more awesome.
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Dec 10, 2010 07:04
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Kerfuffle posted:Especially if they have kids. (They want to pet the doggy why are you such awful people who won't let them pet the doggy?) Strangers are not reliable when it comes to dog training. Oh god yes. I take the dog any time we have to go to petsmart/co, 'cause she really likes to sit and watch the fishies. (and the rats but I don't let her do that in front of employees) I have had multiple (5+?) kids come running up at her squealing, stop RIGHT before they get to her, freeze, then run away crying because she looked at them. Then I get a dirty look from the parents because I have a "mean dog". She just gets sad that she didn't get pets, but poo poo. It's not just responsible people that take their social dogs there, they also take reactive, aggressive, and shy dogs. Why would you let your kid do that!?  (I wouldn't let her do this if she did anything but put her nose on the glass and wag)
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Jan 8, 2011 06:34
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I'm crossposting this from the Yappy Rat thread-- quote:I'm posting these here because there's a lot of yapping. quote:He's less barky with me, but he does the same things for the most part, and he's absolutely not scared of me. He plays with other men too, doing the kisses/digging at hands thing with my boyfriend's dad, but he more readily accepts pets/scratches from him. If you tell him "go give kisses" he happily bounces over to whoever you point at and will lick their hands the same way, so it's an established thing he does, not just when he's scared. Here are some more videos of him in a less excited mode. Yes we have a lot of laundry in the hall, it's getting washed today. http://youtu.be/T1h_6omcjTk Boyfriend has his head turned away from Stan the whole time. http://youtu.be/3d7gFVJ8PeE treats Basically: I acknowledge that there's fear involved. I am wondering why he initiates the behaviors in the first two videos if he's scared, and why we are plateauing at this level. I was going to get a video of his behavior outside around other people and noises, but he just does dog stuff and it's really very boring to watch a small grey dog wander off and sniff bugs.
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May 20, 2012 20:41
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We got him in the very beginning of March, so it hasn't been very long at all. I wish I had a video of how he was at first-- it was a definite fear reaction, and he took weeks to calm down from that. Our working theory at that point was that he had no idea how to deal with men in general-- everyone at the rescue was a woman. He likes male kids though. But the leash reaction (not going to get a video of that, obviously) is so instant and full of pure terror that it really seems like something specific happened to him. The other stuff does seem very conflicted to me. It seems like treating him for going away from men might just reinforce that men are good to go away from, but we'll try. That's a key issue because of where we live-- 5 acres out in the desert. If he gets out of the gate, anybody needs to be able to catch him, male or female. Same thing if he's bitten by a snake. This is him just wandering outside, and saying hi to my boyfriend's dad. It is really hot right now (97) so he's not as active as he might otherwise be. Just as a reference for his relaxed, not really being asked to do anything behaviors. He does retreat to me a bit at the end, but I'm kind of his default person to hang out with. Thank you for the links, I'll look into it.
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May 20, 2012 22:12
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