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Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Welcome to the iOS music production thread!

In here, we discuss our favorite apps, production workflows, iOS audio-creations and more :) If you have any suggestions for the OP, just let me know.

You can chat with us and the Musician's Lounge at #goonmusician on irc.synirc.net


OP Overview:
1. News
2. FAQ
3. Goon-recommended Apps
-- 3.1 Instruments
-- 3.2 Sequencers, DAWS and Utilities
-- 3.3 Control Surfaces
-- 3.4 Interfaces
-- 3.5 Tabs & Notes
4. Various Resources
5. Other iOS SA Threads
6. Videos
7. Audio


:siren: News: :siren:

June 28th:
- The Tenori-On iPad App is on sale for $10
- Decluttered the OP, added new stuff, fixed some links, updated App prices and compatibility




:lost: FAQ: :lost:

Q: What's a good all-in-one music studio App?
A: BeatMaker 2 (Universal, $19.99) or NanoStudio (Universal, $14.99).

Q: What's a fun App that I can just pick up and play?
A: GarageBand (Universal, $4.99), Figure (iPhone, $0.99) or iKaossilator (Universal, $19.99).

Q: How do I program a synthesizer?
A: This youtube video gives you a very good overview.

Q: I just want to record audio.
A: Get Hokusai (Universal, FREE with IAP for extra features)

Q: I just want to edit audio clips (e.g. import, trim, copy/paste, export).
A: Again, get Hokusai (Universal, FREE with IAP for extra features).

Q: How do I convert my audio to MP3? All of the Apps just export WAV or AAC/M4A.
A: I shockingly haven't found an App for that, but there is the a way. Get the iCab Mobile Web Browser (Universal, $1.99), which features file upload. Open your audio file in it from another App (e.g. Mail) and upload it here: http://audio.online-convert.com/convert-to-mp3. Adjust the settings as necessary and press "convert file". After the conversion has finished, scroll down on the page to "download file again", hold your finger on the link and choose "Download File" in the pop-up menu. Then open the Downloads window (arrow pointing down icon in iCab) and you can access the MP3 file.

Q: How can I upload my audio to Tindeck?
A: Open the file in the iCab Mobile Web Browser (Universal, $1.99) and upload it like you would on a regular computer. Make sure to upload only MP3 files to Tindeck!

Q: So many Apps! How can I keep track of updates and sales?
A: Get the free AppShopper App (Universal), create a user account and put stuff on you "own it" list or wishlist.



Goon-recommended Apps:

:banjo: INSTRUMENTS: :banjo:

KORG iMS-20 - iPad $32.99 // online manual / MS-20 Tutorials (search his videos for "MS-20") / Video: USB MIDI input
"KORG iMS-20 is an analog synth studio; a complete recreation of the Korg MS-20 analog synth, an analog sequencer, a drum machine, a mixer, and even Korg's Kaoss Pad technology. Plus, you can share your songs online via the SoundCloud network!"


KORG iElectribe - iPad $19.99
"Korg’s ELECTRIBE·R has been coveted by dance musicians for ten years running. Today, this indispensable instrument has been reborn as a dedicated iPad app – the KORG iELECTRIBE virtual analog beatbox!"


KORG iKaossilator - Universal $19.99
"Korg has revolutionized the musical instrument world with their dynamic line of Kaoss products, using an intuitive X-Y pad to provide expressive musical control. The palm-sized KAOSSILATOR synthesizer placed modern music-making in the hands of thousands of musicians and non-musicians alike. Now that same excitement has been captured in the iKaossilator app for iPhone!"


Moog Animoog - iPad $29.99
"Animoog, powered by Moog’s new Anisotropic Synth Engine (ASE), is the first professional polyphonic synthesizer designed exclusively for the iPad. ASE allows you to move dynamically through an X/Y space of unique timbres to create a constantly evolving and expressive soundscape."


Propellerhead ReBirth - iPad $14.99 / iPhone $2.99
"ReBirth faithfully emulates dance music's three backbone devices: The Roland TB-303 Bass synth and the Roland TR-808 and 909 drum machines. Combine these with FX units, fully featured pattern sequencers and a gorgeous-looking interface and you're ready to make killer tracks ..."


Propellerhead Figure - iPhone $0.99
"Got three minutes and want to make some music? Figure is the fun music-making app for instant inspiration. Create an addictive beat before the next bus stop or lay down a beefy bass line while waiting in line at the bank. Figure will have you making music within seconds yet is deep enough for endless play on a transatlantic flight."


Native Instruments iMaschine - iPhone $4.99
"Play and record drums on the 16 pads, jam a melody on the keyboard, sing on top of your loops via the built-in audio recorder, or create your own unique sample banks from any source - With iMASCHINE the focus is always on the music. And when you’re done, you can finalize your track in the full version of MASCHINE or MASCHINE MIKRO, or directly upload the loop to SoundCloud and share with your friends."


Yamaha TNR-i - Universal $19.99 / Videos: USB MIDI input and output
(you might want to check out the cheaper "SoundGrid Live" below, if you're new to grid sequencers)
"The iOS version of the world-renowned TENORI-ON brings you a completely new musical interface. Even if you don't know much about music, you can create music intuitively as if you were arranging sounds in space. The music that you see on the 16 × 16 grid of buttons is the music that is performed."


TC-11 Multitouch Synthesizer - iPad $29.99 / made by goon lord funk / ML thread
"TC-11 is the only fully programmable, professional multi-touch synthesizer for the iPad. Choose from the 64 included presets, or build your own using touch controls, device motion, and on-board modules. Create music with the next evolution of synthesizer control!"


DM1 - The Drum Machine - iPad $4.99 / iPhone $0.99
"DM1 is an advanced vintage Drum Machine. It turns your iPad into a fun and creative beat making machine.
Easy and fast to use, loaded with 64 superb electronic drum kits and beautiful hyper-realistic graphics, DM1 has been designed for a lot of instant fun. "


Camel Audio's Alchemy Synth Mobile - Universal FREE (with $14.99 IAP for full version)
"This is the iOS version of Camel Audio's award-winning Alchemy synthesizer which can be heard on thousands of records and films by world-class artists."


Sunrizer Synth - iPad $4.99
"Sunrizer synth is a virtual analog synthesizer that takes the definition of iOs synthesizer to the next level. Thanks to carefully designed architecture and heavy usage of coprocessor it blurs the boundaries between iOs and hardware synthesizers."


Reactable Mobile - Universal $9.99
"Improvise and create music playfully with the Reactable mobile. Based on the award winning Reactable as used by Björk on her Volta Tour, this application brings the full creative power of the famous interactive instrument onto your mobile device."


SoundGrid Live - Universal $2.99
"SoundGrid Live! is powerful yet easy to use Tenori-on-like matrix sequencer suitable for professional musicians as well as for casual entertainment. It's based on ideas and user interface elements of popular SoundGrid application but adds more performance modes and other features which makes it much more suitable for live performances."


ThumbJam - Universal $8.99
"ThumbJam is a powerful musical performance experience. You get over 30 high-quality real instruments multi-sampled exclusively for this app. Hundreds of included scales allow you to effortlessly play in any style from rock to classical, whether you are a musical novice or a seasoned professional."







:science: SEQUENCERS, DAWS & UTILITIES: :science:

GarageBand - Universal $4.99
"GarageBand turns your iPad into a collection of Touch Instruments and a full-featured recording studio — so you can make music anywhere you go. Use Multi-Touch gestures to play pianos, organs, guitars, drums, and basses on your iPad. They sound and play like their counterparts, but let you do things you could never do on a real instrument."


Beatmaker 2 - Universal $19.99 // Website / Sonicstate Video Review
"Build your own virtual home-studio creating multiple instruments, connecting them to a full-range of audio effects. Compose, record, arrange and transform your ideas into complete songs, ready to be shared with others. Import your own sounds or use the included sound library: more than 170 high-quality instruments and drum presets from synthesizers to realistic orchestral sounds. You can even import songs from your iPod library!"


NanoStudio - Universal $14.99
"NanoStudio is a virtual recording studio for iPhone/iPod Touch. It has 4 virtual analogue synths, 16 sample trigger pads, a comprehensive sequencer, a sample editor, a mixer and 10 effects units all integrated into a single application."


MultiTrack DAW - Universal $9.99
"Release your creativity with up to 24 high quality audio tracks. Record multiple takes, harmonies, solos, and experiments. No more worrying about bouncing tracks - each instrument can have its own. More cowbell? No problem!"


SunVox - Universal $4.99 // Website (with download links to free Win/OSX/Linux/etc. versions)
"It is a small and fast multi-platform pattern based sequencer (tracker) with modular synthesizers. With this program you can compose music anywhere. On any device. With any OS."


Tabletop - iPad FREE (with IAP)
"The heart of Tabletop is a modular environment where you can mix and match different devices. Select from more than 25 devices including samplers, mixers, effects, sequencers and more. Buy only the gear you need from an expanding catalog."


Rhythm Studio - Universal $3.99
"Rhythm Studio is a a must have app for musicians! It is a premier universal electronic music making app, boasting richly detailed graphics and incredible sound, with impeccable recreations of classic synths and drum machines along with other amazing studio hardware."


Hokusai Audio Editor - Universal FREE (IAP for various extra features like AudioCopy/Paste) // Website
"Hokusai is a multitrack audio editor for iPhone or iPad. Record or import a track, and make it sound the way you want it to: not just trimming the ends, but full cut, copy, paste and delete, and a suite of filters and special effects available. Edit many tracks side-by-side, mix them together, and export to wave or mp4 format — then transfer them to your computer via USB or Dropbox, or send them to another app on your device."


Everyday Looper - Universal $5.99 // Crazy video overview of the App
"Everyday Looper allows you to record 4 musical phrases - 6 on an iPad - and loop them right away. You can then mix and merge them on the fly. Thanks to the metronome (click track) and the auto start/stop of recording (quantized recording), reachable in the tools and options menu, it's suited for two-handed instruments too."


Moog Filtatron - Universal $7.99
"The Moog Filtatron is a realtime audio filter and effects engine. Use sound from any of three sources: Line/microphone input, Sampler, or Built-in oscillator."







:f5: CONTROL SURFACES: :f5:

MIDI Designer - iPad Pro $18.99 / iPad Lite FREE
"Imagine the perfect MIDI rig. Create it with MIDI Designer on iPad. MIDI Designer is the ultimate way to control hardware and software synths, effects, and DAWs (like Ableton, Cubase, Reaper, Logic). And, via the "Pedalboards" feature, MIDI Designer is the ultimate hardware-software hybrid. "


touchAble - iPad $24.99 // Website
"... control Ableton Live 8 from your iPad. Navigate around your live set with the touch of a finger, tweak Lives mixer, instruments and fx with full automapping and unlimited tracks & parameters."


TouchOSC - Universal $4.99
"The application allows to remote control and receive feedback from software and hardware that implements the OSC protocol such as Apple Logic Pro/Express, Renoise, Pure Data, Max/MSP/Jitter, Max for Live, OSCulator, VDMX, Resolume Avenue 3, Modul8, Plogue Bidule, Reaktor, Quartz Composer, Vixid VJX16-4, Supercollider, FAW Circle, vvvv, Derivative TouchDesigner, Isadora and others."


MiDi-to - iPad $7.99 // Website
"MiDi-to is a wireless DJ MiDi controller designed for Serato Scratch Live™. It is the first iPad MiDi controller designed for Serato that does not need any additional software to work. MiDi-to takes advantage of the new Core MIDI framework available with iOS 4.2 which minimizes setup and latency."





:roboluv: INTERFACES: :roboluv:

Alesis iO Dock - Website / Macworld Review / Sonicstate Video Review
"The iO Dock (patent pending) is the first device that enables anyone with an iPad or iPad 2 to create, produce, and perform music with virtually any pro audio gear or instruments. The iO Dock is a universal docking station specifically designed for the iPad and iPad 2, and it gives musicians, recording engineers, and music producers the connectivity they need to create and perform with iPad. "


AKAI SynthStation49 - Website
"SynthStation49 is the most advanced, intuitive music controller designed specifically for use with the iPad or iPad 2 and the first true iPad performance tool for musicians. Working seamlessly with Akai Professional’s heralded SynthStation software, SynthStation49 provides unparalleled music creation capabilities, including direct in-app MIDI recording from its velocity-sensitive keyboard, nine MPC-style drum pads and array of transport controls. In addition to its integration with the SynthStation app, SynthStation49 is also completely iOS CoreMIDI compatible, making it instantly compatible with dozens of music apps already in the App Store and hundreds more on the way. "


Apogee Jam - Website
"JAM is a premium digital converter featuring PureDIGITAL technology which delivers your guitar’s true tone to your iPad or Mac without compromise. JAM is the first high quality interface that makes a digital connection to both iOS devices and Mac. You will notice the sonic difference between JAM and other similar products immediately."


Peavey AmpKit / AmpKit LiNK - Universal FREE / Universal Pro $19.99 // Website (with retailer search for the interface box, priced around $40.00)
"... AmpKit, an unparalleled guitar amp and effects iPhone application, and AmpKit LiNK, a high fidelity audio interface for the iPhone, iPod touch (except first-generation iPod touch) and iPad."


AmpliTube / AmpliTube iRig - iPhone FREE / iPhone LE $2.99 / iPhone Pro $19.99 / iPad FREE / iPad Pro $19.99 // Website (with purchase option for the interface dongle, priced $39.99) / Sonicstate Video Review
"Play, practice and record anytime, anywhere with world-class guitar and bass tones right in the palm of your hand. AmpliTube for iPhone gives you incredibly ultra-realistic tones and effects, plus full multitrack recording capabilities in a convenient mobile app, all from the leaders in analog gear modeling software for professional recording studios."





:spergin: TABS & NOTES: :spergin:

Symphony - iPhone $4.99 / iPad $14.99
"Symphony is a multi-track music notation editor that allows you to compose and playback songs from where you are. You can easily import in any MIDI file from the internet and edit every track and note or just start from scratch. Once you done working on a piece, you can export it and continue working on it in whichever program you like."


TabToolkit - Universal $3.99
"TabToolkit is an incredibly powerful guitar tablature and music notation viewer, now with multi-track playback! An essential tool for learning and practicing music, TabToolkit includes an audio synthesis engine so you can listen to and control the audio for all tracks individually."


Guitar Pro - Universal $7.99
"As a mobile player tie-in to Arobas Music’s famous tablature software package, Guitar Pro for iPod touch/iPhone/iPad is the ideal companion for you to read and play your scores any time, anywhere!"






:eng101: Various Resources: :eng101:
- Chat with the Musician's Lounge at #goonmusician on irc.synirc.net
- "Synth Secrets" articles on soundonsound.com (scroll to the bottom of the page to the first article from May 1999 and work your way up)
- Yoozer's "How to (re)create a sound" thread: Go here to learn your synthesis basics. (lots of images have disappeared there unfortunately)
- AppShopper's "music" category: Browse iOS music apps, put them on your wish/watch-list and get notifications when they're updated and/or on sale.
- lord funk's TC-11 thread


:pranke: Other iOS related threads :pranke:
- The iOS Apps Megathread
- iPad Dedicated App Thread
- iPhone Ringtones


:monocle: Videos :monocle:
- How to program a synthesizer

- USB MIDI input and output with Yamaha's Tenori-On (TNR-i) iOS App
- Attaching a USB MIDI Keyboard to the iPad

- Review of the Alesis IO Dock by Sonicstate TV
- Review of the M-Audio Keystation Mini 32 USB Keyboard by Sonicstate TV
- Review of the Beatmaker 2 App by Sonicstate TV
- Review of the iRig & Amplutube App by Sonicstate TV

- Crazy video overview of Everyday Looper by the App's developer


:toot: Audio: :toot:
- Nanomaquina: a free EP made 100% in NanoStudio on an iPhone 4
- My SoundCloud where I occasionally upload the tracks I made with iOS apps
- Comparison between ReBirth's and Rhythm Studio's TR303 sound

If you have some audio for the OP, let me know :)

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Jul 13, 2012

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Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

Shovelbearer posted:

Those look amazing. I'm only sporting an iPod touch myself... Which among those would work for me?

I'd try ReBirth. Here's a video of it on the iPhone/iPod. It looks just like on the iPad, just with panning and zooming around.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

timb posted:

AmpKit and AmpKit LINK is great for guitar players.

Holy crap, this is amazing! Here's the link to the Ampkit website. I'd love to make more music, but I just haven't got the time for it anymore. I haven't re-stringed my guitars in like a year ...

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

tentaclesex posted:

Also wanted to comment on this:


For percussion, I'd say that the Electribe is deeper than anything in ReBirth.

ReBirth is great in its own way for simulating those classic Roland machines. There are few sounds on this Earth that fill me with as much joy as the 808 cowbell, and the 303s are certainly a lot of fun to play with.

It's more feasible to make a whole song in ReBirth than in iElectribe, but there's no reason to limit yourself to one app, when you can bounce loops out of both and put them together in a sample-based app. :) (Or use an actual computer.)

You're right. I did have a feeling of being on thin ice when I wrote the above :D I guess I haven't really thought about exporting loops into other applications yet, since I've only been using the apps in short bursts on the couch, away from my computer.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Updated the OP.

RivensBitch posted:

Maybe I'm just too into the status quo, but I couldn't see myself seriously getting into any of these apps until there was a way to get audio and synchronization in and out of them. Audio is probably not too hard but I highly doubt that if there's a MIDI interface for iPad, that most of these programs support MTC or MIDI clock.
From what I've heard, the control surfaces are very good and usable already. The instruments are mostly restricted to audio output though and exporting audio files to a computer/other apps is also a real hassle in my opinion. I prefer apps that offer more complete packages like the iMS-20, where I can create a whole song from scratch ... and not leave the couch to sync the iPad :haw:

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Updated the OP.

Panget Ka posted:

I didn't see the app SunVox mentioned by OP, but for 4 euro its a really nice "tracker" clone. There is also a free windows, mac and linux version on their website.
I'll try this out some time. I guess the interface only looks horrible to me, because I'm used to seeing those realistic knob and button graphics, which are probably wasting a lot of screen space anyway. It was a funny reaction though, because I bet if a layman would look at the iMS-20 he'd have the exact same reaction as with SunVox.

By the way, what's the difference between a tracker and a sequencer?

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

The Will posted:

Like a complete man-child I went and bought the iMS-20 and it's completely confusing. I also bought the Electribe a little while ago and I know a little more about that, but I find myself messing around with both rather than actually doing anything constructive - is there a good how-to anywhere online?

Yes, there is! For a really (really!) great general synthesizer how-to, check out Yoozer's "How to (re)create a sound" Thread. After going through page 1 there, you should understand most of the knobs on almost any synth out there. Then check the YouTube channel I posted in the OP next to the iMS-20 app, and search the guy's videos for "MS-20". He has seven videos dedicated to the original MS-20 synth, where he explains the control panel and the patch panel in detail. Figuring out the iMS-20 sequencer and drum machine on your own then should be easy. If not, check the app's online manual.


EDIT: Yoozer's thread will also make you understand the iElectribe better and you can access the it's online help from inside the app under "help", in the hidden menu bar at the top of the screen.


Panget Ka posted:

If you're not used to these tracker displays from around when dinosaurs roamed the earth (c64 and Amiga era in my case) they don't make sense at all when compared to a modern sequencer layout.

This reminds me: When I was a kid, me and my dad sat down in front of our c64 once and he wanted to try and create a "Tractor Sound", as it was described in the C64's manual. He typed in a huge wall of text from the book and at some point pressed enter and suddenly this loud-rear end saw-wave sound came booming from the TV, which made us jump in our seats. I guess we expected a mild motor humming sound and maybe some farm noises :haw: That was the first and last time we tried to make "music" on this computer.


EDIT 2: Updated the OP with iSequence. If anybody has ideas (or cares) for better categories let me know, since I'm mixing instruments with "utilities" I guess.

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Nov 14, 2010

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
I'll update the OP with the new suggestions later. In the meantime, here's my first track done in ReBirth for iPad: http://snd.sc/dDib4T


EDIT: Updated the OP.

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Nov 16, 2010

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

Shovelbearer posted:

OP has the link to beatmaker's site where the link to touchAble's should be.
Whoops. Fixed that.


So, does anybody else want to post some of their iOS-made music? ;)

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Numark iDJ for iPad is on sale at the moment for $1.99. I haven't tried it, but it looks very good for the price. You can import songs directly from the iPod app and there's a beat-matching algorithm too.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

Mex posted:

I need help =(

Is there any way to record sound output from an iPad app to a .wav or MP3 ?
How about using a stereo audio cable, connecting the iPad's headphone out to the computer's line in and recording your session with Audacity or the Windows sound recorder?

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
The KORG iElectribe for iPad is on sale again for $9.99.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
SunVox is on sale for $ 0.99 too.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
MiDi-to for iPad was released today for $4.99, which is a controller app for Serato Scratch using the CoreMIDI capabilities of iOS 4.2.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
There was an update for the KORG iMS-20 today, claiming support for external MIDI keyboards and drum pads, connected with the iPad camera connection kit. Looks like I finally have to get on of those kits. Has anybody who has the hardware tried it out already?




HotCanadianChick posted:

The thing that totally kills usability of these iOS apps is having to deal with itunes.

I've spent about 9 hours straight so far trying to copy a sample library over to one of these music apps on my shiny new ipad, and oh boy is that fun when itunes crashes after moving 20-30 files or so. Multiply that over ~3000 loop samples to get an estimate of how many times I've had to restart this POS program because apple won't just let me directly access my device like a flash drive.
Which app are you talking about? Copying that many files does still seem like overkill for the iPad :-/

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

ascheapaschewinggum posted:

So the Gorillaz iPad-produced album is out and it's really good and has a list of every app used in its creation.

http://thefall.gorillaz.com/

That sounds really good indeed. I'd like to read more on their workflow. I suppose they created the song parts in the apps and mixed them together on a computer. Is there a way to legally download the album?

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Happy new year everyone! :toot:

I got a little into SunVox over the holidays and made this track on the train ride home. I also finished another ReBirth track :)

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jan 2, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
I also just made a quick YouTube video, showing the newly added support for USB MIDI keyboards inside the KORG iMS-20 iPad app.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Happen to know any other apps that support MIDI in, off the top of your head?

Unfortunately not :( So far, the iMS-20 is the only app I've heard of that supports it.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

JazzFlight posted:

FLX, in your demo video, you seemed to have a cheap black midi/usb cable that works. Was that cheap and where did you get it?

Those are just regular USB cables, as both of my keyboards can send MIDI data directly over USB.


toxick posted:

The OP should be updated to mention Filtatron and Multitrack DAW. Also, the "Effects & Utilities" section should really be renamed to "Sequencers & DAWs" since that's what most of those apps are.

Am I the only person really liking iSequence for iPad? It's such a great app once you import your own samples. The sequencer takes a few minutes to get used to since it's a bit different from most DAWs but it's really easy to lay down stuff, and effect automation is handled really well. It doesn't get anywhere near enough attention.
Sure, I'll update the OP later. What I'm still looking for, is a DAW that comes with built-in synthesizers (and maybe some instrument samples), which is why I haven't tried iSequence yet. I'd love to have a package similar to Ableton on the iPad some day.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

excitebike posted:

Cross-posting in this thread too.

I worked on this and I'm happy to answer any questions, we're really looking forward to what musicians will do with our little baby.

How large will the app's file size be with all those loops and samples? Will there be IAPs for new content? Also, how much RAM does the iPad 2 have?

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer

Popcorn posted:

Drum machine
There are a lot of drum machine apps out there. Almost all of then cost money though, but most are rather cheap (2-5$). PowerBeatFree and EasyBeats Lite are free ones, with restricted functionality. There is also the cheap i808 Drum Machine and of course the more expensive but full-featured Beatmaker 1 and 2.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
KORG iElectribe is on sale for $9.99 at the moment.

EDIT: KORG iMS-20 is down to $15.99 as well!

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 12:32 on Mar 10, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
whoops quote!=edit

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Okay, first impressions of GarageBand on my iPad 1, running iOS 4.3:

- the velocity sensing works incredibly well with the keyboard and drum instruments
- you can hit the drums at several different spots to produce different sounds
- overall program performance is good and there are only some occasions where you see a loading bar saying "optimizing performance"
- the guitar and bass interface is really cool, but you can't play any chords you want. You can only play eight preset chords from your song's global key. :(
- autoplay is funny, but I don't see myself using it really
- while the are lots of stomp boxes and amps to choose from when recording something through the iPad's mic/line-in (which I haven't tried yet) you can't apply those to the included guitar instrument. The guitar instrument only features four guitar presets with zero or two fixed stomp boxes, that you can only switch on or off.
- you don't seem to be able to edit your midi tracks after recording them in real time. I.e. if you want to change a note afterwards, you'll have to play the part again. There is an auto-quantization option though.


Edit:
- you can somehow only trim recorded clips from the right/end and not from the left/start

I guess I expected a little more from GarageBand. The keyboard instrument is awesome and offers tons and tons of different sounds. The drums are cool too, but the guitar/bass instrument is lacking so much, even though the interface is great.

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Mar 10, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
I ran into a bug a couple of times now where the sustain feature on a keyboard instrument clip would always deactivate, even after re-enabling it and even though the button graphic still shows sustain enabled. Also, trimming a clip from the left does work sometimes and sometimes not. When it works, I can't trim all the way though, just a couple of beats. Trimming from the right always works fine.

Is there a way to loop a selection of song sections other than "all" and a single one?

I've got a feeling that I'm a bit too harsh on the app. The price is great for what you get and it actually is lots of fun to play around with it. Also, I'm still amazed by the whole interface design. I guess I was just a little too hyped up about it being a full-blown DAW, like the original GarageBand.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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Okay goons, I just finished my first song with GarageBand on my iPad 1. It's dedicated to everyone standing in line for the iPad 2 today :haw:



I used all eight available tracks and recorded vocals with my mobile phone's headset (since I haven't got one of those splitters to plug in a better mic). The drum and keyboard parts were played on a USB MIDI Keyboard I attached to the iPad with the Camera Connection Kit. The experience was alright, but the app's performance dropped noticeably when I got towards the end. Those "optimizing performance" bars kept popping up a lot. Another feature I'd wish for, is setting clip-volume individually, because my mic recordings were never at the same volume.

EDIT: Picture!

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Mar 11, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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Dan Hollis posted:

Holy poo poo, I didn't know you could do that. I have the same exact MIDI keyboard.

Nice song by the way. You sound like the lead singer of "White Town".
Thanks ;)

iOS 4.2 brought USB MIDI to the iPad and there are several music apps that support it. I read that you can even attach USB audio interfaces to the Camera Connection Kit and have some apps output the audio digitally.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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dorkimoe posted:

Are their any apps that let you import songs and let you "remix" them or mess with them in any way. Other than that, looptastic looks like the easiest and most fun of the bunch I have looked at.

I haven't tried them myself, but they claim to do what you want:

- Looptastic & Studio.HD let you create and (re)mix tracks from samples, which can also be recorded with the iOS device's microphone.

- Beatmaker 2 (which will get a free universal update soon, according to the devs) lets you import songs from the iPod app and mess around with them too. You can also create tracks yourself using built in instruments and record audio from your device's microphone.


CelestialScribe posted:

So many apps!

Can't decide. I play acoustic guitar and would love an app on the iPad to fiddle around this, add some drum loops to it, add some of my bass guitar in there, perhaps add some vocals. What would be the best app for this? AmpKit looks pretty good, but is that just for guitar and nothing else?
For this I would suggest GarageBand. It's easy to use and cheap. If you want more features, check out the aforementioned Beatmaker 2.


Feel free to post your experiences with the apps! If you have suggestions for the OP (new apps, cleaning up or re-labeling stuff) also let me know :)

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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Finally! Now I only need an app to paste my KORG creations into. I understand studio.HD is great for arranging pre-made stuff. iSequence does that too though, but also offers its own instruments (and thus is more complicated when believing its app store reviews). Which of the two apps would you recommend?

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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I bought iSequence last night, because more functionality is always better, right? Well, the instruments are alright and you can paste stuff from other apps, but the workflow and navigating the interface is tedious. You can have 8 tracks playing at once, but each track can only play one note/sample at the same time. So, when you want to play a chord of three notes, you only have 5 tracks left for that beat, add some drums and maybe a second instrument and you're done quickly. You can of course bounce your patterns and just arrange them as loops (taking only one track per loop) but the interface makes managing this library of patterns, loops and song parts really frustrating. Especially when you want to change something, you have to find the pattern, edit it, bounce it and edit the new loop into the according song part (which is just another pattern). Patterns are automatically labeled with numbers only, so losing track of what's what happens quickly.

All in all, if you just want to create loops, it's a cool app. You can do some nice things with effects and editing automation is really easy. If you want to create and arrange complete songs though, it is possible, but not much fun in my opinion.


Edit: :argh: Okay, I decided to live on dry toast for the next couple of days and also bought studio.HD ... First of all, the interface is amazing, BUT there is a huge bug that detects an incorrect BPM for most pasted clips. Of course, the default BPM of a clip cannot be changed, so if the BPM are different from your song, studio.HD will time-warp the clip. I checked their forums and it's a known bug/feature ... awesome :suicide:

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Mar 26, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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Kin Corn Karn posted:

Anyone know of a good drum machine app? If one exists? My Alesis SR16 sounds very dated now.

If you have an iPad, check out iElectribe. There is also the Xenon Groove Synthesizer, which is universal and might do what you need as well.

Edit: there are also ReBirth versions for both iPad and iPhone.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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I think ReBirth for iPad totally rocks. The interface is great and recording automation is lots of fun. I would like to hear opinions on Reactable as well.

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
ReBirth is currently on sale for both iPad and iPhone :)

Edit: updated the OP and added a new "Tabs & Notes" category.

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 00:04 on May 2, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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Beatmaker 2 is 50% off (i.e. $9.99) until friday!

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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toxick posted:

This might be the thread to ask this: I want to record the audio output of my iPad onto my iPhone. Recording to the iPhone is a bit more limited since it can't use the camera connection kit. I was wondering if something like this would work?

It should work, but be aware that the iPad's audio output is line-level stereo and your adapter and the iPhone's mic is mic-level mono. Also, some people reported some static noise pollution when recording through such a splitter cable/device. If you try it out, I'd love to hear a trip report!

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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I want to get some more into Ableton Live and was wondering how the Launchpad/APC-20 compares to touchAble on an iPad. Apart from real buttons and faders, their functionality seems almost identical from what I've read/watched so far.


Edit: meh, I got touchAble but I'm not that satisfied with it. The WiFi latency, even in an adhoc network, is still to much to trigger beats properly and while it's possible to control tons of features, you're constantly fighting the iPad's "small" screen size by hiding and showing pages. I guess if you practice your stuff beforehand and don't have any time-critical stuff to manage, then it's a cool app though.

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 24, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
Holy crap, this is the best app-demonstration video ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh2FHIZWfJE

It's for Everyday Looper which is a loop-pedal app, which I might have to get now just because of the amazing video.

Das MicroKorg fucked around with this message at 00:21 on May 24, 2011

Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

Vintage Analog Synthesizer
AudioVidew can at least get sounds from an email into audio copy/paste. I haven't tried the app myself, but maybe it can do even more.

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Das MicroKorg
Sep 18, 2005

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Sorry about that. I updated the OP with new recommendations and got rid of the old news.

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