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Robotnik posted:But, again, I don't give a poo poo what actually happens to Kvothe. I'm sure it (his future) will be fortuitous and a total product of his supreme intellect. Not to be overly contrary, but did you, you know, read the portions of the book that aren't retrospective? He's a washed up innkeeper, in hiding who is as much despised as the things he fought against. That's one of the more interesting parts of the story - he's brilliant, and yet flawed enough that he's his own worst enemy. Even if the telling of his tale redeems him somehow, he's still hit rock bottom, most of which will likely be his own fault.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2010 01:57 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 11:39 |
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A Nice Boy posted:I never got this impression at all, nor do I remember reading it. Where'd you come up with it? There's a point during one of the intervals in the present. The zombie whatever shows up, he tries to set a link to set it on fire or something and nothing happens. Later Chronicler gets jumped in his room by Kvothe's servant/demon friend where he tells him he spread the word to attract someone like him, because Kvothe is burned out, depressed, and basically waiting to die.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2010 04:43 |
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SaviourX posted:Or there's always the possibility that we've taken literature/writing courses and can perform readings and analyses? You have a history of making extremely smug observations about how poor the writing is in science fiction, typically with airs about how you, unlike everyone else, can actually appreciate what good writing is. Good for you, I guess, but your criticism of a genre that grew out of big ideas and pulp seems misplaced; while good writing and science fiction aren't anathema, the publishing pressure in the genre doesn't promote writing talent over other virtues. If it's such a problem for you that you feel obligated to restate it in thread after thread, perhaps you should stick with literary fiction.
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# ¿ Dec 16, 2010 15:34 |
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LoSesMC posted:Just got my copy! Man I love Amazon... Jerk. I'm sure my kindle copy won't load until tomorrow.
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# ¿ Feb 28, 2011 22:23 |
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Habibi posted:Exactly, but think of it the other way around - we're basically told that when women want to get pregnant, they make it happen. Combining it with your argument above, we can boil it down to: there's never been a time when a woman - who, incidentally, is having sex several times a day with a variety of different partners - has gotten pregnant despite not 'wanting' it to happen. I imagine that given all the blaise attitude and the amount of humping that goes on, this would be a frequent occurrence, and would lead to questions that can only be explained away with "well you must have wanted it subconsciously" for so long. Dumb sex talk: Why can't the women also be chewing on the contraceptive plants, such that when they want to get pregnant, they stop eating the plants, and because they're having sex 24/6 they end up pregnant at some point in the future? Since no one's not having sex, the correlation would be quite good. Sex.
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# ¿ Mar 30, 2011 22:19 |
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Karnegal posted:He's still an insufferable douche in the "present" parts. Also, he is depowereed but then goes off and does awesome stuff to reassure the reader that he's still great - killing all the spider-crabs in the first book by himself (a feat which impresses the, apparently, significantly powerful Bast). Hell, he's even set up as THE BEST INNKEEPER EVER. Since almost nothing has happened to advance the plot in two books, I think it's safe to assume this is going to be trilogy number 1 of the Kvothe saga, and I will be immensely surprised if he doesn't regain all/most of his power before this thing is all over. Bast has pretty much made it clear that this is not a permanent thing and he's just working on getting Kvothe back to how he used to be. At which point, he'll still be in his twenties having spent a couple years not being the best at everything. This doesn't really read to me as a washed up character. I'm sick and abed, and thus not really up to defending a fantasy series I don't feel that strongly about in the first place, at least when we're at the thousand word diatribe level. Accordingly, all I'll say is that your constant references to how Kvothe is an awesome barkeep and is super rich (for the area) and awesome at everything have now made me think of Kvothe as Dalton from Roadhouse. And I don't really have a problem with that.
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# ¿ Jul 1, 2014 02:44 |
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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah, I don't know. Why does Kvothe skip over pirates and shipwrecks to talk at length about boring loving sex demons? How come you need an individual hair to make a not voodoo doll to perform malfeasance, but he can just stab a random dead dude to kill like 13 other people? Because one body is really similar to another, a cloth doll is not very similar to a person, I would venture.
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# ¿ Jul 2, 2014 00:38 |
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Arkeus posted:There is also the fact that Fitz Suffers. Onscreen. Not "oh, things might have gone badly offscreen". Moreoever, it also has Fitz constantly evolving thorough the story. That's actually why I stopped reading the series; it felt like torture porn. How many more ways can Hobb torture Fitz?
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2014 23:41 |
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The more interesting question to me is why a bunch of people who hate the books, who keep parroting how stupifyingly obvious it is that they are awful, somehow find it rewarding to post repeatedly in the thread dedicated to these books about said loathing. It's pretty much every other post in the thread at this point. Don't you have better things to talk about, for example in other threads dedicated to things you enjoy? It's just weird.
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# ¿ Jul 19, 2015 23:08 |
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2024 11:39 |
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What's the desired outcome, I wonder? A hope that some new reader, excited about finishing Name of the Wind, opens the thread, and upon seeing "horsefucker420's" thousand word diatribe about how Kvothe sucks, starts crying and reevaluating her taste in literature?
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