|
Jesus Christ that's straight out of the Nerd Crew.
|
#
¿
Jul 20, 2017 20:43
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 11, 2024 23:32 |
|
|
Maybe he just needs Adderall
|
|
#
¿
Jul 25, 2017 23:42
|
|
|
maybe this is why God doesn't talk to us anymore
|
|
#
¿
Aug 16, 2017 21:43
|
|
|
and now he has extra money! it's a win for everybody.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 17, 2017 19:22
|
|
|
The Legend of the Student Loan Haver
|
|
#
¿
Aug 18, 2017 20:25
|
|
|
I only got to the bit with Kvothe's Obi Wan before I gave up but I actually liked the prologue. The description of the rock monster they found was good and I liked how they handled cutting it open. Those interactions flowed very naturally to me, including the parts where the villagers grumbled because the traders didn't have poo poo. I also liked the implications that Kvothe used to be big poo poo but he got tired of it all and turned away because he caused more harm than good. Then I got to the sctual story and I went uuuuuuuugh I don't wanna re read Harry Potter but worse so I gave up
|
|
#
¿
Aug 23, 2017 16:14
|
|
|
jivjov posted:He's already decided that the books are objectively bad, with no redeeming qualities, and as such any arguments about enjoying them (even subjectively so) are immediately dismissed. Remember that thing you said you would do?
|
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2017 23:56
|
|
|
jivjov posted:Eh. I decided that I don't own BotL anything (especially after he came and tried to start a slap fight with me in a different thread). I like the Kingkiller books; and I don't need to justify it to anyone. alright, see you in the Breath of the Wild thread dude
|
|
#
¿
Aug 26, 2017 00:31
|
|
|
When you are writing in any setting you need to make sure that setting comes alive and differentiates itself from reality. If you're writing a medieval fantasy story but everyone talks like a 21st century American than you're not dedicated to bringing your setting alive. You can say a lot of poo poo about The Lord of the Rings, the granddaddy to all of this, but Tolkien always made sure that the characters, their backgrounds, and the places they traveled to were different from anything else in the real world. No one talks like a hobbit or the Rohirrim in real life but they're distinctive enough to be very different when they're together on the same page. That may sound like a set of small details but writing a believable fictional story is totally dependent on those small details. Rothfuss not putting in the shitwork of bringing that to life is indicative of his entire approach.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2017 03:51
|
|
|
och aye laddie begorrah
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2017 04:07
|
|
|
Genre fiction is cancer
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2017 17:31
|
|
|
BravestOfTheLamps posted:I don't want to sound like a 4channer, but her writing really is "social justice-y". A good example is from HTK,: oppression and inequality are big themes, but one of the primary method by which this is conveyed is the dread and anxiety the protagonist when faced by her monstrous, tyrannical relatives. It's a case where the personalization of a political issue ends up obscuring the truth. Like I pointed out in my review, the protagonist is an warrior aristocrat of royal blood, but also needs to be a subaltern everywoman with modern liberal sensibilities, which just rings false (especially when all sense of society and community is so vague throughout the novel). One of the fundamental problems of what we think of as "social justice" discourse is the obscuring of class relations, and it's full force in HTK. 
|
|
#
¿
Aug 28, 2017 18:34
|
|
|
I read the first Harry Dresden book. That's when I started to realize that most paranormal mystery fiction is dumb trash and it will never innovate.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 1, 2017 18:00
|
|
|
BananaNutkins posted:Later Dresden gets fun because Jim Butcher is a cool guy who realizes he writes trash. The tone gets more comedic. The ideas more bombastic. When Harry rides an undead T-rex down main street in Dead Beat (the first good Dresden Files book) it is played for laughs, but also fits the story. He nails tone, if nothing else. It's not a bizarre mishmash of tone like Malazan. I've heard that a lot. I just can't bring myself to read more after the lackluster first book  I found myself really tired of the "bitchy lady cop" thing and it's just put me off.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 1, 2017 19:01
|
|
|
Genre fiction is not held to the same standard as "real literature" in terms of sentence contruction, plot, quality of prose, and characterization. This is known.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 3, 2017 10:34
|
|
|
BotL is entertaining and he at least does the service of not pretending to be on anyone's "side." He hasn't been hypocritical, he's always making GBS threads on everything equally and then made up for it by giving out recommendations like Baudolino. Complaining about sour grapes now is missing the carriage.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 3, 2017 16:36
|
|
|
And I can understand all of that, I'm just rolling my eyes that it was all cool until BotL gored the sacred Jim Butcher/Harry Dresden cow and THAT was the last straw. Like, really? This thread is more fun when everyone is making GBS threads on Rothfuss for being a fussy writer suffering from imposter syndrome.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 3, 2017 17:20
|
|
|
ZombieLenin posted:I prefer making GBS threads on Rothfuss for being a misogynist and an rear end in a top hat who uses his fiction to live out his teenage sex fantasies and espouse his deep found commitment to the position that women enjoy being dominated and need saved. HAI GUYS LEMME TELL YOU ABOUT THAT TIME I FOUND OUT AN OLD CLASSMATE MAKES PORN ONLINE AND HOW THIS PERSONALLY AFFECTS ME ME ME
|
|
#
¿
Sep 3, 2017 20:34
|
|
|
Lightning Lord posted:Rothfuss is a guy who writes out his ~*liberated cool girl who appreciates a man for his brain*~ sex fantasies while wearing a "this is what a feminist looks like" shirt. He's the type of dude who has Jezebel columns about him, like one of those guys in Portland who organizes feminist meetings and then gropes the attendees. 
|
|
#
¿
Sep 4, 2017 21:05
|
|
|
Buried Giant is absolutely fantasy, but it's also a fantastic literary novel. It just makes fantasy a part of its setting. And its high concepts are about war, occupation, and marriage, not a lovely comic book prophecy. Ishiguro is fantastic and everyone should read The Buried Giant if they want an example of literary fantasy.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 5, 2017 17:03
|
|
|
Junkozeyne posted:The distinction is meaningless for anything but rationalizing that this book is good and can't therefore be fantasy, which is bad and isn't read by serious adults. Defining literature by any nebulous artistic value is a fool's errant unless you don't mind glaring holes in your definition. this is word salad
|
|
#
¿
Sep 5, 2017 17:25
|
|
|
Literature is usually deemed literature about 75+ years after the death of the original author.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 6, 2017 17:31
|
|
|
Lifetime original movies have a lot of Dickens territory covered what with death, massive debt, social commentary, homelessness, family drama...
|
|
#
¿
Sep 6, 2017 19:38
|
|
|
BravestOfTheLamps posted:“No one writes about economic reality within this genre like Pat Rothfuss. The real-world weight of the sometimes impossible distance between the things you want and need and what you have in your pocket. no please no
|
|
#
¿
Oct 5, 2017 15:20
|
|
|
Buggy posts in 3 parts this is poetry
|
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2017 23:50
|
|
|
Yes
|
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2017 23:57
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 11, 2024 23:32 |
|
|
a glitch in three parts available at your local organic forum's market
|
|
#
¿
Oct 7, 2017 05:57
|
|