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Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday

8-bit Miniboss posted:

Kobo is also partnering with iFixit for parts and guides for the new readers according to this help post:

https://help.kobo.com/hc/en-us/articles/21137184146071-Repair-your-Kobo-eReader

Hell yes. I saw "repairability" get a subhead in one of the videos, but wasn't sure how far they were actually going to take it. Now they just have to deliver on it.

I'm split between the two. My Aura One's 7.8" screen is just a little too big for longer sessions. The 7" Libra may be perfect, but the Clara at 6" will be even more portable, and has better colors on the sleep-covers.

ETA: For those interested in the difference between the two devices:

Wizard of the Deep fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Apr 10, 2024

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FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Wizard of the Deep posted:

I'm split between the two. My Aura One's 7.8" screen is just a little too big for longer sessions. The 7" Libra may be perfect, but the Clara at 6" will be even more portable, and has better colors on the sleep-covers.

FWIW, my wife finds the Libra to be the perfect size. The Elipsa was too big and she complained non-stop about her Kindle Paperwhite (6-inch) feeling "cramped".

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



I have a Kindle Scribe and a Kindle Paperwhite Signature Edition, and I’m considering the Libra Color. If the Libra had the same screen size as the Scribe I’d already have it preordered.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


The only reason I'm not extremely hype about this is that I'd want it for reading comics, even the 8" Forma screen feels a bit cramped for that -- my main comic reading device is a 10.5" tablet. I think the 7" Libra would definitely be too small.

If Kobo drops an 8-10" comic ereader with a colour screen, though? I'd go for that.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

My understanding is these color e-readers are pretty dull and reading comics on them may not be the best experience.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Yeah, I haven't really seen much but it seems like right now color e-ink is kind of a novelty to make the UI a bit nicer and not something you could use as a daily driver for color content.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
Huh. My Libra 2 has a couple days left in its return window. I could basically upgrade to color+stylus for $30 extra. Or I could lose an inch of real estate and hardware buttons, but step up in display tech and get $60 back in my pocket. Tough call.

CaptainCrunch
Mar 19, 2006
droppin Hamiltons!
My Libra’s return window closed the day before this color news dropped. Womp womp.
I really like my Libra 2, so I’m not going to allow myself to FOMO too much over this. It got me reading every day again, helped break my doomscrolling habits.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



According to this guy I guess the color screens are darker and kind of poo poo for black & white content, which is disappointing. Would be nice to have color covers and for the handful of full color manga I have, but if the normal reading experience for books, which is black text on white background, is so degraded I don't really understand the draw of these? The ads seem to indicate that they'll look great, but hard to just believe the company's own marketing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaWnBMvdKH0

Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture
Yeah, color e-ink displays have less contrast (the "white" background color is darker than black and white models), less detail (it slashes the effective resolution) and the colors themselves are pretty weird looking.

These Kobos use Kaleido 3, which improves things over prior generations, but I'm not convinced that they've sufficiently solved any of the major issues, except maybe the crappy refresh.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.
The new Clara BW seems pretty good if someone's looking for a new reader though.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

Kassad posted:

The new Clara BW seems pretty good if someone's looking for a new reader though.

Yeah, it definitely looks nice. I pre-ordered the Clara BW and will report back, I guess sometime in May.

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



Is the Kobo Forma a good deal in 2024? What I'm looking for is an e-ink reader with a larger screen than a Kindle Paperwhite for reading manga. I've tried on the Kindle and it's just a bit too small. I noticed the Forma has native CBR / CBZ support, too, but I know it's an older model. Any opinions on it?

I'm basically not looking to drop a lot of money on a niche use device and they pop up for a refurbished price of $150.

woke kaczynski
Jan 23, 2015

How do you do, fellow antifa?



Fun Shoe

Mercury Hat posted:

Is the Kobo Forma a good deal in 2024? What I'm looking for is an e-ink reader with a larger screen than a Kindle Paperwhite for reading manga. I've tried on the Kindle and it's just a bit too small. I noticed the Forma has native CBR / CBZ support, too, but I know it's an older model. Any opinions on it?

I'm basically not looking to drop a lot of money on a niche use device and they pop up for a refurbished price of $150.

I don't read a lot of comics on mine but it works pretty well for that imo. I'd probably enjoy an even bigger screen in a vacuum but my eyesight isn't great generally. I'm a big fan and I expect to keep using it as long as it's functional.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

Mercury Hat posted:

Is the Kobo Forma a good deal in 2024? What I'm looking for is an e-ink reader with a larger screen than a Kindle Paperwhite for reading manga. I've tried on the Kindle and it's just a bit too small. I noticed the Forma has native CBR / CBZ support, too, but I know it's an older model. Any opinions on it?

I'm basically not looking to drop a lot of money on a niche use device and they pop up for a refurbished price of $150.

Check the capacity, I know Kobo themselves sell refurbs but usually only the 8GB SKU. You'd be running out of space fast. If they happen to be 32GB, go for it. I went back to my Forma after my disappointment with the Sage.

Dayton Sports Bar
Oct 31, 2019
The $150 one on the Kobo site is 8 gb. But that's probably not a big deal if you're fine transferring stuff to and from your computer, right? I actually ordered one myself recently, since it seems like a great deal for an eink screen that big.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
Someone actually got the Libra Colour super early: https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/1c198fa/got_the_libra_color_early_ama/

Has a few pictures in OP and some more in the replies at various times of day and light settings for anyone concerned.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



8-bit Miniboss posted:

Someone actually got the Libra Colour super early: https://www.reddit.com/r/kobo/comments/1c198fa/got_the_libra_color_early_ama/

Has a few pictures in OP and some more in the replies at various times of day and light settings for anyone concerned.

I saw that post a few hours ago and the comparisons made me go ahead and pull the trigger on a libra colour. Will post impressions and/or comparisons with my Kindles when it arrives.

smr
Dec 18, 2002

Mercury Hat posted:

Is the Kobo Forma a good deal in 2024? What I'm looking for is an e-ink reader with a larger screen than a Kindle Paperwhite for reading manga. I've tried on the Kindle and it's just a bit too small. I noticed the Forma has native CBR / CBZ support, too, but I know it's an older model. Any opinions on it?

I'm basically not looking to drop a lot of money on a niche use device and they pop up for a refurbished price of $150.

I think the Forma was a better device than the Sage that replaced it, buttons got a little better on the Sage physically, but the both have the slightly dodgy lighting and the Sage’s battery is WAY worse, like from the get-go.

If you don’t want to jump to the Scribe/Elipsa size and cost, it’s probably your best option.

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Dayton Sports Bar posted:

The $150 one on the Kobo site is 8 gb. But that's probably not a big deal if you're fine transferring stuff to and from your computer, right? I actually ordered one myself recently, since it seems like a great deal for an eink screen that big.

The manga I have on my Kobo Forma seems to average average around 600-700kb per page, so in ~7gb of space it can fit 10,000 pages or 500 20-page chapters. So yeah you'll be fine unless you want to stick multiple entire long running manga series on it. Or maybe all 1000+ chapters of One Piece since 1997.

And yeah I'd say the screen feels just right for manga. Nicer than the smaller kindle oasis I was using before.

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Apr 12, 2024

brainwrinkle
Oct 18, 2009

What's going on in here?
Buglord
I'm probably going to pick up a Libra color to replace my Voyage. The contrast looks decent in the Reddit photos. I'm not sure I'll use color all that often, but it helps justify the upgrade when my Voyage still functions decently. I'd also love to get out of the Amazon ecosystem.

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe
I have a Libra 2 and only read books so it seems like a sidegrade or even downgrade. I’ll just keep rocking this, my favourite ereader by far and very happy to be out of the Amazon ecosystem.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

I love my Clara 2e, not seeing a very clear upgrade in the new version and I don’t have much need for color, so guess I’ll wait this round out.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Dicty Bojangles posted:

I love my Clara 2e, not seeing a very clear upgrade in the new version and I don’t have much need for color, so guess I’ll wait this round out.

Do you still have your Boox Palma? I saw one on FB Marketplace and the form factor (plus better OS/app capabilities vs my Kobo) looks enticing.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

FreelanceSocialist posted:

Do you still have your Boox Palma? I saw one on FB Marketplace and the form factor (plus better OS/app capabilities vs my Kobo) looks enticing.

I do! But my use has definitely waned… it’s very useful, though, for reading these dead forums while having coffee outside or when my eyes are tired of looking at LED screens during work breaks. The battery life is just good enough I can leave it for a day or two and still have enough juice left for an hour or two of browsing before needing to recharge it.

But if I’m not outside or tired of screens then I’m 99% more likely to just use my phone cuz my brain’s too habituated to stop looking for it. It’s all the same mindless tasks but more convenient immediate screen response. And cell data support… also, I knew the Palma doesn’t have GPS before I bought it but in retrospect, I should’ve waited for something with that option so I could use it as a nav device. I’m sure mine would be getting a lot more exercise these days if it was a bit more comfortable leaving the house.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Thanks - pretty much the feedback I was interested in. It sounds like it wouldn't really replace my Kobo or my Android tablet, then. And I'd still be carrying a phone around. So it would just be a fourth device. Ick.

Maybe the Hisense A9 is an option.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Apr 12, 2024

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Right exactly, by limiting it to wifi-only it becomes fairly limited add-on luggage at this form-factor. Still a fun toy to pull out for variety but not something that I’ll be changing my habits to reach for by default.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



Cross posting my SA Mart thread. Looking to sell my Scribe w/ Premium Pen since I've got the Libra Colour on order and still have my Paperwhite to use in the interim.

$325$275 obo

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4058676

e: of course Amazon puts the Scribe on a deep sale the day I post this.

Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Apr 16, 2024

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Can this thing survive in a backpack? Like my Paperwhite has a case and can get knocked around a bit and is fine. How fragile is this thing?

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

Can this thing survive in a backpack? Like my Paperwhite has a case and can get knocked around a bit and is fine. How fragile is this thing?

I’m not particularly rough on mine, but my cats have knocked it off my nightstand several times and it has survived just fine. The back is made from tungsten, so it’s pretty rigid, and the folio at least does a decent job of protecting the screen.

This guy beats one up pretty bad and it survives even being bent to hell from the back. Being aggressively bent from the front kills it though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXeZ5fNazk8

Branch Nvidian fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Apr 17, 2024

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smr
Dec 18, 2002

Branch Nvidian posted:

I’m not particularly rough on mine, but my cats have knocked it off my nightstand several times and it has survived just fine. The back is made from tungsten, so it’s pretty rigid, and the folio at least does a decent job of protecting the screen.

This guy beats one up pretty bad and it survives even being bent to hell from the back. Being aggressively bent from the front kills it though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXeZ5fNazk8

I would concur with this, I had the same fear when I first got mine and was like “geeez, this seems thin and easy to gently caress up”. but it’s VERY solid and I’m not particularly careful with it. I don’t love the folio cover thing so I mostly bareback it as well.

I’ve only ever broken one Kindle and that was in the seatback of a plane when a guy had zero patience and wouldn’t let me get up and out of my seat on the aisle so he could go to window and he forced his way through in front of me and somehow put so much pressure on that seatback pocket that the screen fritzed on my Paperwhite (like a gen 2 or something, it was years ago). I was EXTREMELY pissed off at that dude.

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