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KICK BAMA KICK
Mar 2, 2009

Kobo Plus -- the VIP points/discounts thing for $10/yr, not the monthly e/audiobook subscription thing -- is it obvious if it's worth it or not? I got it when I got my Kobo and it's up for renewal now. I earned ~2,800 points, never spending them iirc. I definitely got the (small, like another 10-20%) discounts on some of my purchases but made no effort to keep track of how much I saw saving. Anybody ever take a close look at it?

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8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:

KICK BAMA KICK posted:

Kobo Plus -- the VIP points/discounts thing for $10/yr, not the monthly e/audiobook subscription thing -- is it obvious if it's worth it or not? I got it when I got my Kobo and it's up for renewal now. I earned ~2,800 points, never spending them iirc. I definitely got the (small, like another 10-20%) discounts on some of my purchases but made no effort to keep track of how much I saw saving. Anybody ever take a close look at it?

It's called Kobo VIP, not Plus. I've been on it for several years currently. It's worth it to me as I purchase a lot of manga (usually 5-6 books a month) and then use those points to then get even more manga. The 10% discount helps too in most of my purchases as they tend to be lower than Kindle in like 90% of cases.

Edit: The annual free book however, never used because what I would like to get is not part of that promotion, it's mostly like trashy grocery store novels.

Edit #2: I've so far have redeemed 6 free books with points looking at my point transactions.

8-bit Miniboss fucked around with this message at 00:53 on Feb 14, 2024

Major Ryan
May 11, 2008

Completely blank
I buy 30-40 books a year through Kobo with VIP which is generally enough for a couple of free books as well as the discount (which seems to be decreasing on the number of books it applies to, but still a decent amount). That's absolutely worth $10 to me, but if you're buying fewer books then maybe not.

Minotaurus Rex
Feb 25, 2007

if this accounts a rockin'
don't come a knockin'
Oh yeah I got the Libra 2 and it’s great! Easy on the eyes! The buttons were worth the extra cash! Gona read hella more with this, thanks goons!

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Minotaurus Rex posted:

Oh yeah I got the Libra 2 and it’s great! Easy on the eyes! The buttons were worth the extra cash! Gona read hella more with this, thanks goons!

Cool, have fun with it!

virinvictus
Nov 10, 2014

Minotaurus Rex posted:

Oh yeah I got the Libra 2 and it’s great! Easy on the eyes! The buttons were worth the extra cash! Gona read hella more with this, thanks goons!

My first and only Kindle was the latest model of the Oasis and I keep looking at the Libra as my next jump since I don’t think they’re going to refresh the Oasis (even though I’m really annoyed they haven’t put out a USB-C model yet).

The buttons are a necessity for me.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
Don’t forget to install KOreader.

Minotaurus Rex
Feb 25, 2007

if this accounts a rockin'
don't come a knockin'

Rand Brittain posted:

Don’t forget to install KOreader.

Who me? What is it?

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."
KOreader is a mod you can install onto a Kobo that has a much more advanced reader, wireless sync with Calibre, and a lot of other features.

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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virinvictus posted:

My first and only Kindle was the latest model of the Oasis and I keep looking at the Libra as my next jump since I don’t think they’re going to refresh the Oasis (even though I’m really annoyed they haven’t put out a USB-C model yet).

The buttons are a necessity for me.

I feel you. My Oasis broke last year and I think I waited until Mother's Day just in case. Nope. Stupid of them not to, but their loss was my gain.

Rand Brittain posted:

KOreader is a mod you can install onto a Kobo that has a much more advanced reader, wireless sync with Calibre, and a lot of other features.

I'd say get used to your new Libra 2. If you like what it does out of the box, you're good. I installed KOreader and just went back to the stock reader after testing it. I think the only mod that I still have on there is that I installed the Bookerly font (https://developer.amazon.com/en-US/alexa/branding/echo-guidelines/identity-guidelines/typography) because I did get used to that on the Oasis.

Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Feb 18, 2024

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆
I got a Kobo Forma to replace my damaged Kindle Oasis and I've been happy with it.
I tried out KOreader but didn't really see the appeal, the default built-in reader seemed nicer and less fiddly to me. The features like wireless calibre sync and being able to browse the filesystem as a filesystem instead of just a bookshelf seem nice though.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


The main features I use koreader for are:
- sideloading over wifi (needs some setup)
- much better PDF support, for both raster and reflowable PDFs
- browsing books as a filesystem rather than by metadata
- way more tuning knobs exposed for tweaking book rendering/style (useful for books where the publisher has hosed everything up but it can be solved with a simple on-device tweak rather than editing the epub)
- superior footnote support (although I think the stock firmware has gotten better at this in recent years)
- easier to back up my bookmarks/marginalia from the reader

Which are all nice enough that I consider it worth installing (and coping with the fact that it is noticeably less power-efficient than stock). But I don't think it's a prerequisite to have a useful e-reader, Kobo stock firmware is Just Fine. So I second the recommendation to just use stock for a while, and if you find yourself thinking at some point "this is nice, but I really wish there was some way to make it do ____", then take a look at koreader and see if it can do that.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

virinvictus posted:

My first and only Kindle was the latest model of the Oasis and I keep looking at the Libra as my next jump since I don’t think they’re going to refresh the Oasis (even though I’m really annoyed they haven’t put out a USB-C model yet).

The buttons are a necessity for me.

I haven't owned an ereader, but I've played with some in stores and yeah, I don't think I could live without buttons either. Something the size of the Kobo Clara would be perfect if it had buttons on the side like my Samsung phone. Just a button you could squeeze while holding it one handed to turn the page would be much better than having to tap or swipe the screen. It's the only reason I haven't bought one. I'm considering it though, I think the ability for it to fit in my pocket would be convenient.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Rand Brittain posted:

KOreader is a mod you can install onto a Kobo that has a much more advanced reader, wireless sync with Calibre, and a lot of other features.

It works on a jailbroken kindle as well, I've got a 32gb gen 10 paperwhite running koreader & for me its the perfect device.

Big Mac
Jan 3, 2007


I don't know if Duckman2008 hangs around this thread much anymore, but I was clicking through this thread and noticed the OP is from 2010

does anyone want to join me in updating it? I figure it'll be quick and hopefully even kind of fun!

loudog999
Apr 30, 2006

Would someone with a Palma check something out for me? When you are in any refresh mode beside HD or regal, do you have a really thin black line stretching across the top of your screen above the time and notification icons? I do and I’ve done two factory resets and it’s still there unless I’m in HD mode. My Amazon return window lasts until March 7th so I’m going to send it back if this isn’t normal.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

I went voyage > oasis > cheapest kindle, and I thought I would miss buttons more but the weight and shape makes it so much more pleasant to use than the oasis

I still use the oasis but only in bed on mount because the warm screen and size is nice

I had tried out the Palma after seeing people talk about it here but there was too much smartphone bullshit and the light on it was kind of weird. The cheap base model kindle was more or less what I wanted out of the Palma

inferis fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Mar 1, 2024

AARD VARKMAN
May 17, 1993
I'll probably go with a regular kindle when my Oasis dies if they don't put out a new premium one in the regular symmetric style before then.

inferis
Dec 30, 2003

Is there a way on kindle to make taps on either side of the screen advance the page? I vaguely remember that being possible in the past but I’m not sure and I can’t find it.

duckdealer
Feb 28, 2011

Supernote now let's you toggle sideloading.

Some very useful stuff (EinkBro, Shonen Jump app) seems to work great so far!

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

inferis posted:

I went voyage > oasis > cheapest kindle, and I thought I would miss buttons more but the weight and shape makes it so much more pleasant to use than the oasis

:words:

Honestly, same. I have a paperwhite and I find its touch controls fine for my purposes.

I don’t begrudge button wanters - I was one for a long time. I just happened to get a screaming deal on a trade in of my old oasis for the paperwhire.

Minotaurus Rex
Feb 25, 2007

if this accounts a rockin'
don't come a knockin'
I’m loving the ebook thing. This is so much better than paper books imo, you can carry them all with you, read in the dark, hold it with one hand and on your side lying down.. just ergonomically it smacks the poo poo outta paper. Not to mention you can carry loadsa books at once, travelling with this things going to be sweeeet. Definitely consider me an ereader convert

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



loudog999 posted:

Would someone with a Palma check something out for me? When you are in any refresh mode beside HD or regal, do you have a really thin black line stretching across the top of your screen above the time and notification icons? I do and I’ve done two factory resets and it’s still there unless I’m in HD mode. My Amazon return window lasts until March 7th so I’m going to send it back if this isn’t normal.

If I tilt mine I can see one behind the masking but the angle is so extreme it's hidden from any normal viewing. That sounds like a misalignment in the display, go for the return.

Following up my screen unevenness experience, I did a replacement through the retailer. The Boox support line for the US appears to be one person reading cue cards ('85% consistency is expected' doesn't make sense for the dark area contrast, 'will improve firmware in the future' uuuuh?)

My original unit also developed a phantom touch in the bottom corner, so it was going back one way or another.

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

loudog999 posted:

Would someone with a Palma check something out for me? When you are in any refresh mode beside HD or regal, do you have a really thin black line stretching across the top of your screen above the time and notification icons? I do and I’ve done two factory resets and it’s still there unless I’m in HD mode. My Amazon return window lasts until March 7th so I’m going to send it back if this isn’t normal.

I think this may be a problem with the latest firmware in a lot of models that's supposed to be fixed in 3.5.1 if we ever get it (Onyx's firmware rollouts take quite a while to hit every customer).

loudog999
Apr 30, 2006

Agile Vector posted:

If I tilt mine I can see one behind the masking but the angle is so extreme it's hidden from any normal viewing. That sounds like a misalignment in the display, go for the return.

Following up my screen unevenness experience, I did a replacement through the retailer. The Boox support line for the US appears to be one person reading cue cards ('85% consistency is expected' doesn't make sense for the dark area contrast, 'will improve firmware in the future' uuuuh?)

My original unit also developed a phantom touch in the bottom corner, so it was going back one way or another.

I have to be tilting mine and looking for it to see it, so it may be the same as yours. I asked on Reddit and several people had the same, no one replied saying they didn’t have it so maybe it’s “normal” for the Palma. I keep mine on hd anyway so it’s never there. I think I’ll stick with the one I have since it’s the only issue that’s popped up and I have read on this thing way more than I thought I would. Thanks for checking yours.

Dead Nerve
Mar 27, 2007

Minotaurus Rex posted:

I’m loving the ebook thing. This is so much better than paper books imo, you can carry them all with you, read in the dark, hold it with one hand and on your side lying down.. just ergonomically it smacks the poo poo outta paper. Not to mention you can carry loadsa books at once, travelling with this things going to be sweeeet. Definitely consider me an ereader convert

They sure are awesome, so many great upsides. The ease of carrying a whole library with you is truly special. I'm still rocking a 3rd gen Kindle keyboard after a decade plus. It desperately needs a battery replacement but holds enough juice to read a few books, so I put it off. The biggest improvement I can see for an upgrade is that glorious lighted screen.

With all that said though I still think a bookshelf filled with someones favorite books is a beautiful thing.

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

I have an 11th gen Kindle that I keep offline/airplane mode so I don't have to see any ads. All my books are sideloaded and ethically and legally procured, so I don't need or want the device to be part of Amazon's ecosystem.

The stock firmware is 5.15.0. Are there any exciting new firmware updates that I'm missing out on, or is it all "stability and performance updates?"

vvv thanks! airplane mode for life.

doctorfrog fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Mar 5, 2024

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
Don't connect to wifi, Amazon may delete your sideloaded books, no matter how you got them.

I can't think of anything that's really nifty you're missing out on. They mess with the library and front page in recent updates, but nothing actually useful.

Bunk Rogers
Mar 14, 2002

All these years and Amazon has left all my devices in peace.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

Bunk Rogers posted:

All these years and Amazon has left all my devices in peace.

Same same

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.
It was the same for me until recently.

Fly Ricky
May 7, 2009

The Wine Taster

effika posted:

Don't connect to wifi, Amazon may delete your sideloaded books, no matter how you got them.

I can't think of anything that's really nifty you're missing out on. They mess with the library and front page in recent updates, but nothing actually useful.

Don’t they still support the “Send to Kindle” app? I used it last night to send a book to mine.

I believe this happened to you, but a something else has to be going on.

edit: they even add the books to my library so I can access them via phone, computer, wherever.

effika
Jun 19, 2005
Birds do not want you to know any more than you already do.

Fly Ricky posted:

Don’t they still support the “Send to Kindle” app? I used it last night to send a book to mine.

I believe this happened to you, but a something else has to be going on.

edit: they even add the books to my library so I can access them via phone, computer, wherever.

Yeah they still support send to kindle. The books sent that way don't seem to be affected (usually). It seems to be a recent-ish issue with their syncing as it's across devices and firmwares.

It's not just me:

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=340936

Fly Ricky
May 7, 2009

The Wine Taster
Weird issue.

From that Goodreads thread, given that the problem first occurred in 2021 for the handful of unfortunately affected, it doesn’t appear to be anything to do with policies from Amazon.

Something along these lines:

quote:

Processing archive items... Something to do with Quick Archive auto triggering if you haven't connected to the servers in the timeframe you have it set at, or perhaps shenanigans with Personal Document Archiving?

edit: my main point is this isn’t something really worth disabling WiFi for most users.

Fly Ricky fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Mar 6, 2024

Officer Sandvich
Feb 14, 2010
If you haven't connected to WiFi since at least 2021 you probably should leave WiFi turned off.

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
I haven't had an ereader in probably a decade, but I've finally gotten wise to how great Libby is, or more specifically I got wise to the fact that I'm eligible for a library card from three separate systems (so I can actually find poo poo I want to read and not wait six months for it). I don't really like carrying my iPad on my commute and it's not great for reading novels anyways, so an ereader it is.

Looks like the Kobos are the clear winner here with the ability to get the books directly and not have to gently caress around with sideloading, no?

My last eReader was a Nook and I had to actually check to see if they still made them, because nobody seems to talk about them. They that bad?

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

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Discussion Quorum posted:


Looks like the Kobos are the clear winner here with the ability to get the books directly and not have to gently caress around with sideloading, no?

My last eReader was a Nook and I had to actually check to see if they still made them, because nobody seems to talk about them. They that bad?

Yes

Just mostly irrelevant unless you are in their ecosystem.

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
The screen blows.

Drop a nickel or your keys on the screen and say hello to your incredibly bright lines that will never ever go away.

rufius
Feb 27, 2011

Clear alcohols are for rich women on diets.

Discussion Quorum posted:

Looks like the Kobos are the clear winner here with the ability to get the books directly and not have to gently caress around with sideloading, no?

Kindle doesn’t need side loading either with library books.

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Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

The screen blows.

Drop a nickel or your keys on the screen and say hello to your incredibly bright lines that will never ever go away.

Are you talking about the Nook or the Kobo?

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