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KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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I'm a sound editor currently working on a new demo reel and am extremely indecisive about what should be on it since I've seen everything so many times. I know the 4 shows/shorts that I would like to include, but I can't figure out which clips are the best.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback at all, particularly which clip is best for each show (in terms of sound effects/dialogue and even just general interest as people won't want to watch it if it's boring). Even overall which clip you find the "best" so I can put that one first, or clips that you think definitely shouldn't be included. Obviously the in and out edit points are still rough, but the overall context of each clip is still there.

I know it looks like a lot of clips, but they're only about a minute each.
Thank you, any help is very much appreciated!

Furstenau Mysteries (overall sound):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ1fN0FpHFk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ezuhPuHRN8

Gina (overall sound):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p933t6g_l5U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgaAPXptnX4 (note, this one was entirely MOS/silent when I started)

Connor Undercover (ADR, Voice over and dialogue ONLY):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoE5EkXBcus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LrELX36IME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nDWpNJIYz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dptA8haYd9Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp85gXR9fro (entire scene is ADR)

Dating Guy (sound effects and dialogue):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRKQmaqwwDY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzHHEM6Y7C4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JYX_11nCxU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE0Skd3H7NM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1xJB4M0UjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cECbhZUCV6k (this one is unmixed, so it's not the final sound and there's no music, but I find it really funny so I kinda want to include it anyway)

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KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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A little off the usual topics, but does anyone have advice about walking away in the middle of a project?

I'm in the middle of a freebie feature film that is a complete nightmare to work on, topped off today by being completely insulted by the director and producer after working my rear end off for over 70 hours of my own free time in the last 5 weeks. I would love to wash my hands of it completely, but will I regret burning these bridges? My coworker seems to think I should suck it up and spend another 75 hour to finish it so that I don't get a reputation for not finishing projects but I've never even considered doing that until this film.

(context: I've been working full time at a post-audio house for over 5 years now, this is their first feature film, the director is a reality tv writer and the producer is a reality tv production coordinator.)

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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The Affair posted:

They probably need you a lot more than you need them, so you might try calling up the producer and explaining that they can scream and insult paid crew all they want, but when it's your free time you're donating they really ought to respect that boundary more.

Don't be confrontational, always spin it positive "I really want to finish this movie, but.." etc.

Or, alternatively, just walk away. All any of us really have is our time, and you're not under any blood oath to give it away for free just cause you started work on something that has drastically de-evolved in to drama. Are they treating any of the other crew like this?

It's not just me, on-set was lovely as well. Even on days that were scheduled to be 10 hours (which meant it was really about 13 hours) they only ever had one meal break planned. Half of the crew wouldn't even come back for the reshoots. I should have bailed then.

The producer is way too good at playing politics. She already responded saying that she knows I haven't had much time to do it, it's not a criticism they just can't use it* for the festival submission, and "we're all doing our best". I can't exactly respond to that with "I quit" without being the one who looks like a jerk.

(*"it" being a sound edit that is 95% finished the dialogue, meaning that yes, some of the production sounds like doors slamming were taken out because they will be replaced with GOOD sound effects when I actually have the time do a sound effects edit! The picture editor and director are "working on it" tonight to put those back in for the submission otherwise they were going to just submit it completely silently - no dialogue or anything)

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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thunderspanks posted:

If you've been in house for 5 years then you are way beyond the point of needing to work on freebies for pretty much any reason unless your boss is telling you to do so or you're helping out a buddy (which I occasionally do myself). Tell them straight up "you get what you pay for" and tell your politicking producer that under no circumstances are you dealing with being insulted on work that you're not even being compensated for.

"Insulted" may not be exactly the right word, but it's certainly how it felt to be told that they would be better off submitting it without any sound vs the work I've put into it.
I've decided to compromise and be diplomatic; spend the last 4 or so hours to finish up the dialogue edit but otherwise I'm too busy to dedicate any more time to this project. Which is actually true, we're about to get totally swamped at work in about 2 weeks.

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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thunderspanks posted:

Ok wait, what exactly is this being submitted to?

They're submitting it as a work-in-progress to a film festival (TIFF- apparently there's a month extra for Canadians to submit? I don't know, that's not really my department).

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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Can anyone help me out with some information about colour correction services?

I currently work at an audio post-production house but we've been losing some business to other audio places that are offering video/audio in one place. My boss has tasked me with researching what it would take for us to be able to offer in-house colour correction which is something I am completely clueless about. The only lead he gave me at all is that he knows of a place who just started offering this with a program called DaVinci. Obviously if we did go ahead with this we'd hire someone who had experience with it, but for right now I just need to figure out what it would take to even get us to that position. Thanks!

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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Yeah I'm not sure why we're focusing specifically on colour-correction as opposed to video editing, but it's what I was asked to look into, so I am.

I saw a reference somewhere to "legalization equipment" but I can't figure out what that means. I got that colours have to be able to be displayed in various delivery formats, but not what actual equipment was being referenced. Is that just a strange thing to call the scopes?

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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Gunjin posted:

At a minimum you are going to need DaVinci software, a control surface, a decent workstation, fast storage, a monitor for the GUI and a 10 bit broadcast monitor (some people add a 3rd monitor to put Resolves software scopes on).

Resolve costs $1k for the software no control surface, it's a great deal for a pretty powerful program imo.

For a control surface a Tangent Wave is the cheapest you're going to get at $1500 (that's what I have) it's functional no frills, but basic, it gets the job done but doesn't have all the hot keys and options of some of the more expensive panels. If you're on a budget it can't be beat though. If I had had a bigger budget personally I'd have gone with the full Tangent Element kit, that runs about $3500, but you get more features. You can drop $30k and get the full DaVinci panel, but really, that's the sort of thing that if you need it you wouldn't be asking questions on SA.

Workstation you want the best you can reasonably afford, PC or Mac both are fine, the one advantage of PC is easier availability of comparable CUDA cards for software acceleration, if you're on a Mac you either have to go with a lovely (and overpriced) Quadro 4000 or find a NVIDIA GTX card with hacked firmware. You'll need a video capture/output card as well (something like a Black Magic Designs Decklink ~$900), you can't just hook up your broadcast monitor to the DVI out on your computer, the color space is wrong and your grades will look like poo poo.

Storage needs are dictated by what type of footage you'll be working with.

A good calibrated 10 bit broadcast monitor might be the most important thing (I'll mention that you can also go with projectors, but that is much, much more expensive and usually reserved for people doing stuff like 4k work for film out on motion pictures). About the least expensive option here is something from Flanders Scientific (the CM-170W or LM-2461W) they are inexpensive($3300-$5000), ship calibrated,and they offer free lifetime recalibration (you pay for shipping) but you can go up in price to $15,000+ for a Sony OLED & calibration equipment.

I'm sure I'm forgetting several things, this is just kind of quick and dirty so to speak, and geared more towards low end. A lot depends on what type of productions you expect to be working on, the minimum specs needed for local TV spots or corporate training video type stuff is going to be different than if you're working with 4k r3d files.

Awesome, thank you so much! A lot of that echoes what I found yesterday, but it's nice to know that I'm actually figuring out the right things. We're mostly working on documentaries and reality TV, so we need HD but not all the way up to 4k stuff. We already run everything else exclusively on Mac so we would definitely be sticking with that, and the boss already knows we'd need a full new system.

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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hBomb42 posted:

As someone who's been wearing a colorist hat lately: hire a colorist first and ask them what they want to work on. It's a craft, the same way sound design is. Putting a rank newbie in front of a box you've just thrown together is a great way to alienate your clients!

Instead of the TV Logic, get this monitor. I have one in my Flame suite. It's freaking amazing. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=766411&is=REG&Q=&A=details

The other thing I didn't see mentioned yet is a waveform monitor and vectorscope. They're very, very helpful when doing grading work if you know how to use them.

This is a legalizer, but you should really be making your work broadcast legal in your color grading or finishing application.
http://www.leaderamerica.com/web/products/eyeheight/legaleyes.htm

Thanks for the info. If we did go ahead with it we would likely have a specific person in mind first and do it the way you suggested, at this point I'm simply researching what approximate budget we'd be looking at. And actually since originally asking, we've found out some insider info that makes it much less likely we're going to pursue it anyway.

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KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

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I don't suppose anyone here is in the DGC and has experience applying for EI? If there is someone, please PM me, I'm new to the union and have some questions, and no one ever seems to answer the phone when I try to call about EI. Thanks!

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