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Well to me it's all the fault of those in the media who were hell bent on pursuing the corruption allegations.

They need to get in the real world.

What other country's media would do the same when their own, yes their own country is bidding?

Why couldn't they do this years ago, or next month or next year, or in 5 years time? It's ridiculous that they can strut around being proud of their freedom when the nation has lost the chance of a lifetime in staging this event in 'The Mother of Football'

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The pitch invasion seems like a good idea right now doesn't it.

If you have any pride left you will ALL issue an apology to England and our bid team(This included Roque Santa Cruz), preferably through Sky Sports News.

Cheers, you mentally disabled chimps.

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you can't have a world cup in qatar cmon that's loving ridiculous it's hotter than the sun out there

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In fairness they are so rich they are going to put air conditioning outdoors to keep the temperature down. Wish I had enough money to fight the sun...

Nikolai Fuckharin posted:

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Won't be allowed to win it,
everything is secret from voting to instructions to referees
remember the Germany game and the goal that wasn't given,

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F I F A = loving incredible foreign arseholes !! Russia and Qatar absolute joke gently caress international football not worth a wank

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I have to say, I'm not inspired to go to Russia ...... and Quatar is a bit near all those weird fuckers like Iran, Iraq, Pakistan and the rest so I don't fancy that either.

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Here here fordy.

The more sanctimonious dribble I read and hear, the more I actually find myself sympathising with the 'hooligans'.

I was there, so I can speak with authority about what I saw. Yes, some people went on the pitch. Yes, some chairs were thrown. Yes, about ten people had minor injuries. And yes, there was a (gasp) firework let off. Well blow me down.

What there wasn't was any of the following:

'Missiles' - they are big things that rich countries use to blow up towns, not half empty bottles of pop.

'Ugly scenes' - anyone would think it was like Saw 4 or something if you believe the press.

'Violence' -unless of course you include the sometimes heavy handed use of batons by the Police.

'Intimidated children' - this one cracked me up! Most of the 'hooligans' themselves were about twelve.

'Frightened families' - I was with my Dad and my sister - we thought it was hilarious.

'Clashes outside the ground' - I walked through the 'clashes', and it was mostly the same 'intimidated children' on their mobiles trying to ape the overblown media-invention of the football hooligan stereotype.

At the end of the day mate, it was a bit of a laugh, and if you don't like it, don't go to Villa Park or St Andrews on Derby day. We know what to expect, and frankly for the most part, we enjoy the atmosphere of it.

Now bore off and worry about something important - like starving kids or something.

As for the World Cup, who cares? The last one was the equivalent of watching the last Manchester derby, only 3 times a day for a month. Russia (who, by the way, have possibly the worst hooligan problem in the world - which kinda blows your point out of the water), can keep it.

Jippa posted:

e- ^^^^ I'm guessing there will lots of material from all clubs. So it begins.

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First off let me tell you that Construction workers are nothing like enslaved, specially in Qatar. I know this because I'm a journalist and I went to Qatar recently especially to report on a similar story.
What happens is that the construction company orders construction workers from a recruiting company. They specify that the workers must know the safety procedures, including using equipment and so on. However the recruitment companies find it cheaper to actually forge that certificate. So workers go there unfortunately no nothing at all about safety and one accident after another ensue.
So the government need to work on that, is it slavery? hardly. It's less severe than Mexican workers who go to the US (illegal immigration).

But workers work for 9 hours including an hour lunch break (that is the law in Qatar). They are provided with housing and transportation (although housing thy get is in ghetto areas).
But they make much more money than had they worked any where else in the world.
And it is a fact that they make more money than teachers in Egypt.

It could be different in other Gulf countries, but I'm positive about Qatar because I reported from their.

Arab "states" did not exist until the 20th century, slavery ended in their with th arrival of Islam. Mohammed banished slavery and adopted a former slave as his own and assigned another as "imam" responsible for calling people to prayer.

Even in the modern world, England crimes far exceed that of Qatar. World Wars, going into Afghanistan and Iraq and killing innocent soldiers and innocent local families for unfounded reasons (there are documents that prove its about oil and I'm more than happy to PM you those documents).

You have Ex pats from England who go work in Qatar, do you have it the other way around?
English Ex pats, just like from any other country, come to Qatar because it provide them with a standard of living their countries cannot deal with. Isn't that a crime against humanity? Isn't raising tuition fees and forbidding a large sector from getting higher education and practically destroying their future a crime against humanity?

May be that's why England got two votes.

T. Finn posted:

lol

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This is the best place in the world to be young! The government pays for your education up to PhD level. You get given a free house when you get married. You get free healthcare, and if it's not good enough here, they pay for you to go abroad. You don't even have to pay for your phone calls. Almost everyone has a maid, a nanny, and a driver. And we never pay any taxes. Don't you wish you were Emirati?"

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think this through. english fa tell fifa to gently caress off and stick the world cup. fifa kick england out of fifa, which means english teams cant play in a uefa competitions and can only play against each other. the (so called top players) want to leave the premiershit teams and play abroad the teams in the real 2nd division (us) now have the best teams because we pay our players gently caress all, some of them arent worth gently caress all mind. within 2 yers we once again reign as the best team in england. however the greedy bastards at the fa and in the premiershit wont allow this to happen because they want to keep all the money. still good to dream.

Transatlantic Gulp posted:

Is it loving Groundhog Week in TRP

(what I mean to say The Mash is someone else linked that article and we had a bit of discussion about it in the Qatar thread)

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Yeah, my friend's dad was there a few years back and had to pay £75 for some guy to bring him a bottle of wine with a Tesco sticker saying £2.99 on it

owlstalk posted:

2018- Russia
2022- Qatar
2026- Afganistan
2030- North Korea
2034- Scotland (FIFA are that bent)
2038 - Hawaii
2042 - New Zealand
2046 - Canada
2050 - Antarctica
2054 - Egypt
2058 - Arctic circle
2064 - Aruba
2068 - Cyprus
2072 - Fiji
2076 - Greenland
2080 - Yemen
2084 - Rwanda
2088 - Mongolia
2092 - Finland
2096 - Latvia
3000 - Syria
3004 - England

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Football, Soccer, Calcio, Futebol, Futbol - the name changes but it is a universal language: 'The People's Game.' Unfortunately, at the moment it is anything but.

This group aims to be the startpoint of a drive to return the game to the people; to make FIFA an organisation with a president and board voted in by the people who play, watch and love the game. Public vote is the greatest system of accountability and fairness known; it works at great clubs like FC Barcelona as well as it does in...

Breath Ray posted:

lolz posted:

You mean that video was to promote England!!! I thought it was a video of all the countries we are giving handouts to. Well well well.

lolz posted:

The video is total rubbish, no doubt about it. Once again, an example of how we are too scared to celebrate our national identity for fear that the PC brigade will come along and moan that there are not enough different cultures and minorities represented. But I highly doubt the video cost us the bid, the entire process stinks of corruption.

lolz posted:

Glad.

We can't afford it.

Soccer is as exciting as watching grass grow on concrete anyway.

- John, Indonesia, 3/12/2010 1:12

lolz posted:

i wonder how much of the 15 million was spent on this crap of 3 mins,200 quid tops,its as if we are ashamed to be english,sack the lot.and sack postman pat that will save 6 million a year ,and get harry to do it part time,and pay him on results

Bacon of the Sea posted:

For those not paying attention it was in fact Prince William rather than Prince Harry who was involved in the bid, seeing as he's president of the FA.

SteadfastMeat posted:

that is not how milleniums work

Breath Ray posted:

I know funny isn't it

SteadfastMeat posted:

already booked my tickets for Hawaii 2038 though

Bacon of the Sea posted:

For those not paying attention it was in fact Prince William rather than Prince Harry who was involved in the bid, seeing as he's president of the FA.

Iggy Pop Barker posted:

the charming story these quotes are referring to: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1335107/WORLD-CUP-2018-Un-English-video-screened-FIFA-delegates.html

it'll be about 6 months at this rate until Paul Dacre actually lets his employees write about 'niggers'.

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This is the problem with multi culturalism...everyone loses their identity amidst the racial and cultural mash.....

- rb, brum, 2/12/2010 21:05

That's the whole reason it is being forced upon us rb....
- Tom, Middlesbrough, UK, 03/12/2010 01:11

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Well done Daily Mail for having the courage to speak up and say the things the silent majority are thinking!. It's about time we took pride in OUR culture for once.

If only Diana were here to see what this nation has become. What would she say?
- Bob, from britain, 3/12/2010 0:15

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In this film Britain looks like a foreign country, which increasiingly it seems to be.
- Peter, Watford UK, 2/12/2010 23:39

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because england isn,t england any more......many thanks to the star players........and here they are.....blair,brown,johnson,prescott,harman.....midfield.....blunkett,green,grayling,hague....up front.....clegg and star striker cameron........the substitutes are too many to mention but the public referee informs me that they have all ruined this once great nation which is unrecognisable to what it used to be.....
- joseph prescott, liverpool, 2/12/2010 22:18

8raz posted:

And that's only the tip of the iceberg.

Chuggo posted:

bob from britain i'm almost certain is my big bro trolling :3

Chuggo posted:

bob from britain i'm almost certain is my big bro trolling :3

T. Finn posted:

The Diana line was way too unsubtle imho

T. Finn posted:

The Diana line was way too unsubtle imho

Crazy Milan Fan Nick M posted:

I would be very interested in traveling to Qatar to watch the World Cup, and although it's 12 years in the future, am already planning to do so. I agree that money was the primary driver and that political influence in FIFA was crucial to Qatar winning. But I also look at it this way. Every bidding nation had to tout their financial clout. Every bidding nation attempted to politic and garner influence in a number of ways. Qatar has deeper pockets. That's not their fault, it's down to their geography. And Qatar won more influence, and until there is solid evidence or proof that they 'bought' votes, I'm not going to tarnish their win by smearing their methods.

I'm surprised Qatar got it, but if you consider the fact that they've got money to burn, but still are doing things like developing a zero carbon-footprint AC system that could greatly impact the global environment in a positive way, building and then tearing down and reconstructing in poor nations the magnificent stadiums they are planning to build, and spending around $65B in infrastructure (roads, railway, seaport, etc) NOT including the stadiums themselves, this is a project that will have a lasting impact on Qatar, the Middle East, and let's be honest, the world for years to come.

From a football perspective, it probably makes the least sense. But in just about every other way, this is the bid that most capitalized on using the World Cup to create positive change and expose the world to a new corner of the globe that most people couldn't find on a map prior to yesterday.

I don't have a problem with it.