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Wrr posted:I think I'm in the middle of an exceptional story? I guess I'm working with a spiritfarer and some devil to do something in hell now? To eavesdrop on hell? No clue where to go to keep advancing that. so that story is apparently a continuation of one of the really early storylets that I had completely forgotten about
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Wrr posted:I think I'm in the middle of an exceptional story? I guess I'm working with a spiritfarer and some devil to do something in hell now? To eavesdrop on hell? No clue where to go to keep advancing that. Did you by chance mean you're working with a spiritifer? If so, you're in the continuation of Playing with Soul that was just released after more than a decade of the storyline hanging. If you check the "Myself" tab and search for the name of the story, the instructions for the next step are generally included in the tracker quality these days. It's also good practice to echo literally everything important, so you can go back on your profile and read any instructions or details you missed. As for Seeking, Blacken Your Mind is a bit of a newbie trap. For early levels of seeking, your best option is twofold:
It sounds like you're trying to do a few things at once with your character, so honestly, I'd disregard actively increasing SMEN at all and just go to the SEMEN method until you hit 36. This really doesn't cause any noticeable damage to your character at all (the really nasty stuff are the candles) and can conceivably take fewer than 10 turns a week to get through the most capricious portion of the plot arc. Seeker Burnout from being stuck on this endless treadmill of farming items to throw away on 90% chance to fail checks, or endlessly tanking your stats and needing to rebuild them is what ends most Seeking attempts. The candles and Winking Isle are painful, but in a very different way, and with NORTH on a very near horizon compared to the first phase. Edit: Fixed broken link ilurker fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Sep 18, 2021 |
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I restarted a while back after successfully Seeking and god i forgot how miserable stuff was - i suspect I never actually finished all the duelling last time before i moved onto the labryinth of tigers, do I actually need to grind duels forever now to increase my making my name before i get to move on?
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The Vosgian Beast posted:So (Watchful Gains spoilers) what did y'all decide to do with Mr. Transport(he might have a different name if you let him be devilish Dropped it off right at the Bazaar as it'll presumably further destabilize whatever the bat monsters are doing in there and weaken their individual positions. More Masters = more decentralization of power = more vulnerability.
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Do you lose your profession if notability drops below the requirements?
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Sekenr posted:Do you lose your profession if notability drops below the requirements? No.
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ilurker posted:Did you by chance mean you're working with a spiritifer? If so, you're in the continuation of Playing with Soul that was just released after more than a decade of the storyline hanging. If you check the "Myself" tab and search for the name of the story, the instructions for the next step are generally included in the tracker quality these days. It's also good practice to echo literally everything important, so you can go back on your profile and read any instructions or details you missed. Okay, thanks for all the tips. Its a lot easier to understand than looking at the guides on the wiki. Currently, my SMEN is 24. I haven't played this game with any real specific meta-goal, or guide in mind, and have always just sorta wandered around and followed storylets that seemed interesting. Where do I go to get a starveling cat? Or who can curse me with one? Also, what are good ways to get my correspondence plaques? I'm a sucker for that material and want to engage more in that writing. My watchful is 127 right now, whats a good way to grind that back up? https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Plyem Its my profile! Do with it what you will. Also, playing Fallen London got me thinking about running a Blades in the Dark hack based on FL; it fits really really well both mechanically and narratively. Wrr fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Sep 17, 2021 |
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At SMEN 24, you should actually be able to get it via The Seeking Road. Under SEVEN IS THE NUMBER: Gain a Stain on your Soul you'll have the option to trade either 77 Brilliant Souls, a Baptised Rattus Faber Corpse, or a Deep-zee Catch for one. I'd advise heavily against actually getting a stain on our soul until you're at 36 SMEN and ready to start your candles though - just exploit the opportunity to get yourself a cuddly kitty pal. Just take the cat and back out. Correspondence Plaques (and almost every item in the game at the point you're at currently) are best gained via Doubt Street. Basically, newspapers allow you to get a huge number of Tier 3 items in fairly few actions (make sure you have a slighting partner - again, an alt works wonders for this). Tier 3 items are unique in that they can be cross-converted on a carousel into any other Tier 3 item at a ratio of 50:51. The Wiki has a table that lays out the carousel - it starts collapsed, so you'll need to expand it. For Correspondence Plaques, for instance, you pick a newspaper edition that produces Journal of Infamy. Once that's published, you can use the Journals in your inventory and pick Blackmail a Special Constable to trade 50 Journals for 51 Correspondence Plaques. Each T3 item can be turned into the item to the right of it on the table above, and will eventually wrap all the way around the carousel until you end up back where you started. In this way, using Newspapers, side-converts, and up-converts, you can basically turn the same Newspaper editions into any item in the game. A note on the Newspaper guide - it doesn't make this clear enough, in my opinion, but the absolute best newspaper edition possible is actually to pick every option which gives salacious copy, to get as close to 140 salacious copy as possible, but when it comes time to publish, you actually want to pick A Gossipy and Tantalising Edition instead of the theoretically-better The tawdry secrets of the famous laid bare!. This is because the "better" edition gives a fixed amount of rewards, while the other one scales with the salacious copy you produce. This is going to be complicated by the fact that you probably can't actually reach maximum salacious copy right now - some of the options require end-game qualities you might not have yet. You're honestly just going to have to take a look through the guide and the tables and work out what options give you the best bang for your buck. One important newspaper edition is going to be publishing Seditious Editions. This one is somewhat different than the others because it a) requires a blend of meritorious and salacious copy, which will be a lot easier to do at first that focusing on one specific type and b) it gives Incendiary Gossip instead of Journals of Infamy. Incendiary Gossip is consumed when slighting players, making it a handy resource to replenish, and it's also several conversions down the carousel from Journal of Infamy, making it the better option when you're trying to get resources like Brilliant Souls or Extraordinary Implications. The absolute best way to grind Watchful up right now is the "Portergrind", which requires you to have not finished investigating the university (see a theme here? It's a shame they lock you out of so much good content in that area). Basically:
If you're unlucky enough to have progressed through the University storyline already, unfortunately your best option is going to be the other real gem FB added: Epistolary Matters. This is a social action which allows you to trade letters with other players to quickly boost stats. Your best bet is to jump on the FB official and community discords and find a partner to exchange letters with. Each of you can read a maximum of 7 letters a week, giving a full level of Watchful per level each, before diminishing returns kick in. This is a lot slower than Portergrind, but only because you're limited to 7 levels a week before Mired in Mail creates sharply diminishing returns for attribute-raising letters. That's still nothing to sneeze at - 490cp cashed in over 7 actions means you should be doing this simultaneously with Portergrind regardless - and honestly, for every stat you have under cap. Most players don't because the letters are relatively expensive, but it's worth noting that even with high mired in mail, reading a letter gives 14cp each at a minimum, which beats any other source. You might find it worthwhile to trade, say, Notes on the Correspondence to wealthier players for continuing attribute-raising letters even after mired tops out. This will necessitate making extensive use of newspapers to fund, but newspapers are basically indispensable at your point in the game anyway. Once you're stat capped, letters also make delving into the Nadir for EPA actually viable again - the combined 400cp stat loss hurts a lot less then you can make them back up immediately. If you are stuck in the post-University state, you might want to look into starting a University Laboratory. Not only is a lot of content locked behind it, but almost all of the checks to progress research are menaceless Watchful checks, making it an excellent place to grind your stat back up while you're waiting for letters to become effective again.
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My word. The new world event finished before I even had a chance to try it. So how were the crabs anyone who managed to do it?
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Hypocrisy posted:My word. The new world event finished before I even had a chance to try it. you didn't miss much! it used the same mechanics as hunting the plated seal if you've done that, plus a difficulty modifier that made all the checks harder as the crab population dwindled. the rewards were just various common items, mostly zee-related plus some rostygold. definitely more of a proof-of-concept thing than anything else but it was neat, i'm looking forward to them continuing to do these kinds of small world events!
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Looks like Hallowmas has started - I might throw some money into buying some of the Fate-locked previous year companions. Not sure if that will happen before or after I agonize about which of this year's companions to go for.
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When I ran out of resources for the nicer menace gains at my chosen mask's party I just started playing with my starveling cat, which gives both wounds and nightmares 1 point at a time. I doubt if I'm gonna make it all the way to the top either but I got enough for Element of Dawn, at least.
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Wow, todays advent gift is well worth a click... +8 watchful home comfort... https://advent.fallenlondon.com/
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I guess there was a limited time new year's card that expired before New Year's Day that had a proclamation from the Empress stopping time or something (since it was bizarrely time limited, I don't have the text), so that answers the question I've had for a while about how they were going to handle entering the 20th Century--they won't.
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I journal pretty much everything I come across. Anything marked as "New Century" on my profile should cover the results, starting from around here: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Ferel/25289044 Older entries are lower on the page, so you'll have to start at the end and read up. On the wiki it all falls in this category: https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/The_Dawning_of_a_New_Century
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I dont like it, changes are cool. Also, it kinda sucks about amused lordships megaparty, what was the point of everyone chiming in? Some people probably donated cellars of wine, not just magician.
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I haven't seen it pop up yet but there's apparently a new card where you can buy up cheap wine from His Amused Lordship that slowly brings the party prep world quality back down. And if you donated cellars of wine you got back favours in high places (and society favours for turning in other favours) so it's not like people just lost out on resources. Honestly this whole thing is one of the funniest jokes I've seen in a game, the buildup and absolute lack of payoff was inspired. I'm really curious to see if they're just gonna leave it at this or if there'll be further developments, maybe once all the wine's sold off or whatever. Just going "yeah it's 1899 forever now" seems like it'd run counter to how much they've been using the new world quality stuff to liven up the game and make it feel like things are Happening in the city. The journal UI doesn't seem to have gotten the memo and is marking new entries with 1900, but idk if that's just an issue with how it's set up or an oversight or what.
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If you have the Revolutionary second tier faction item there's an option on the new world quality card that tells you people around the city are painting the new year places as graffiti and selling black market year 1900 calendars. Plus during the great sink you could get a pocket watch that's stuck at Dec 31st 11:55 PM from them, so my guess is that there'll be more stuff developing relating to the year change rather than it just being a way to get around the century change. Aside from the crab hunts the world quality stuff seems to be developing a connected plot line.
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Fleve posted:I journal pretty much everything I come across. Anything marked as "New Century" on my profile should cover the results, starting from around here: https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Ferel/25289044 Thanks! If this does turn out to be more than a cop out, that'll be cool. I think they do have a legitimate issue with the game starting to feel anachronistic as it enters the 20th century though, so I don't entirely blame them if they do stick with 1899, especially since we know they intended to stop updating the game after the railway before its popularity convinced them to keep going. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 15:55 on Jan 2, 2022 |
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Sinteres posted:Thanks! i don't think we've ever had an intention to stop updating fallen london! i don't want people to have that impression at all. we love the old beast. railway did really energise us, and the game! (source: i am working on it)
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marwood posted:i don't think we've ever had an intention to stop updating fallen london! i don't want people to have that impression at all. we love the old beast. railway did really energise us, and the game! (source: i am working on it) Oh, my apologies. I think I overinterpreted/misremembered what the blog post about Metempsychosis said last year.
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marwood posted:i don't think we've ever had an intention to stop updating fallen london! i don't want people to have that impression at all. we love the old beast. railway did really energise us, and the game! (source: i am working on it) that's good to hear. game is v. good
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marwood posted:i don't think we've ever had an intention to stop updating fallen london! i don't want people to have that impression at all. we love the old beast. railway did really energise us, and the game! (source: i am working on it) got back into this game a couple months and I'm pretty far down the railway now, and it kicks rear end. hope this game keeps trucking for awhile
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I only have one real suggestion: more friends. Hanging out with the Sardonic Music Hall Singer and co. is good but more to do with them and more of them would be ace and cool
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also pls don't think i am watching over this thread like a hawk, i just come by now and then. tbh it's probably time for a new one. oh!! and it's also FL's 12th birthday today. hooray!
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After about 7 years of playing this game semi-regularly, it's finally starting to feel like it's losing the sheen. I'm not *quite* done yet - I still have to finish off the Laureate and PP questlines - but after that it's probably time to finish SMEN the real way. The railway was extremely cool to play through, but with that and ambitions closed off it's starting to feel like the long-term of things is sort of directionless. I'm not sure if I exactly think this is a criticism of the game itself, given the sheer amount of time it took to get to this point. It's pretty impressive that any form of browser game was able to maintain my interest for close to a decade - but recent content has started to feel less and less impactful. Not sure if anyone else has started to feel this way after they took Metempsychosis off the roadmap.
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Tolth posted:Not sure if anyone else has started to feel this way after they took Metempsychosis off the roadmap.
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Tolth posted:After about 7 years of playing this game semi-regularly, it's finally starting to feel like it's losing the sheen. I'm not *quite* done yet - I still have to finish off the Laureate and PP questlines - but after that it's probably time to finish SMEN the real way. The railway was extremely cool to play through, but with that and ambitions closed off it's starting to feel like the long-term of things is sort of directionless. The railroad owned but I think that level of content production and extension of endgame was basically unsustainable, so smaller updates that more players can participate in makes sense to me. I'm not really playing at all at the moment, but I'm basically just enjoying the break (despite still having things I could be working toward) and not planning to Seek or anything. I'll have a decision to make at the end of the month on whether or not I feel like paying for exceptional friendship just to get the new exceptional stories while I'm basically on hiatus, but I'll definitely be sticking around and checking in as new content (particularly new stuff like the amazing summer festival last year) gets rolled out, though I don't think I really plan to spend much money on FATE items this year since I feel like I have about all the advanced stat gear I need at this point.
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Yeah, the railway and ending ambitions and everything was just a huge push for their 10th anniversary in 2020. But the little updates here and there have been keeping me interested. Based on what they've said, the direction of upcoming content is going to be more Zee ports. There's been a ton of hints that we're going to get to revisit Irem from Sunless Sea, and that was my favourite place.Rogue AI Goddess posted:I was really looking forward to meeting my end. Also, same. There were some vocally upset people, though.
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The post explaining why Metempsychosis got axed made sense to me tbqh. Seems like it would've been a nightmare to design around, and I'd rather they work on new stuff like the railway than have FL do the KoL thing where it becomes about speedrunning
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Need advice on hearts desire: do I need Virginia specifically to kill me to get advice from the boatman, or I can speak to him if I died another way? I didnt get the tigress first time around and would rather not grind hell favours again.
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Sekenr posted:Need advice on hearts desire: do I need Virginia specifically to kill me to get advice from the boatman, or I can speak to him if I died another way? I didnt get the tigress first time around and would rather not grind hell favours again. Yeah, there's no tangible benefit to taking that route. You can just go to Mrs. Plenty's Carnival, go to the Hall of Mirrors and use the one that kills you and you'll be able to talk to him all the same.
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Man, that OP just never got updated, huh? I've joined the ranks of Fallen Londoners as Benjamin T. Barker (username CaptainWalker). So far it's obtuse and mysterious as all hell and I generally love it, but it's far from obvious (for instance) what all this stuff in my inventory does. What items can be safely sold for Echoes, what common stuff should I be converting into rare stuff, and what should I hold on to? More generally, what counts as "progression"? Seems like following my Ambition is the way to start there. If I'm trying to get rid of Wounds or Nightmares, am I better off waiting out the week for Time, the Healer? Lastly, is there a way to actually increase the Luck quality?
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Generally avoid selling anything you can't buy at the Bazaar, especially early on. It's been awhile since I've done low level stuff, but having helped some friends get up to speed, you'll want to be following the four "Making Your Name" plots. There's one for each main stat, and they'll have you progress through their respective zones until you hit the big midgame thing (becoming a Person of Some Importance). Your ambition is also a good way to set goals for stuff, too. You'll probably build up menaces like Wounds too quickly to wait them out, early on you can buy laudanum/tinctures, but those'll get less effective eventually. Social actions can be a good way to reduce menaces. The wiki is generally a great resource, but even now I still check the menaces guide every now and then. https://fallenlondon.wiki/wiki/Menaces_(Guide) Luck is what luck is. Some luck challenges are just easier than others. also yeah this thread could probably use a reboot, if theres enough interest I wouldnt mind helping getting an OP together
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Also a good place for a bunch of free gear is this list of access codes: https://www.reddit.com/r/fallenlondon/comments/jhnmx2/active_access_codes/, which should probably be included in a theoretical new thread OP
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