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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
I like when the jet airplane goes zoom.

Cyrano4747 posted:

As for your next entry, the story of the Tu-4 is always hilarious and worth reading. Oh Soviet Russia, you were such scamps :allears:

The stories about what happened to some of the air crews that were interned when they landed their B-29s in the USSR? Not so hilarious.

Scratch Monkey fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Dec 15, 2010

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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

NosmoKing posted:

Do the sexiest looking bomber of all time, the B-58.

That's a weird way to spell B-1.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
You kids are lucky to not have grown up during the cold war. I had manly sleepless nights as a lad imagining that there were nuclear missiles on their way right at that moment to destroy everything and everyone I knew and loved. It wasn't fun, especially since I knew there was nothing anyone who normally protected me (my parents, the police, etc...) could do about it other than die with me.

Also back then I had never met a Russian. The idea of talking to an actual Russian was unthinkable. Now they're all over the place in my city.

Thankfully the end of the cold war helped ease my fears of instant nuclear annihilation a little bit, and the fall of European Communist nations made it possible for me to eventually meet my wife (not Russian).

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
So, bombers?


Click here for the full 800x346 image.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Mister Sinewave posted:

Is that still the case today?

They were a game changer for two reasons. First, they can reach their targets in about a half an hour making effective detection and response difficult. Second, there's not much you can do about them once they're in the air except try and get yours in the air before they're blown up.

Additionally, the advent of submarine launched ICBMs were a super duper game changer because they could get closer to their targets further reducing available response time and were nearly impossible to target and destroy like ground based ICBM silos. They put the final stamp on the MAD based nuclear detent that kept the cold war from going hot.

Scratch Monkey fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Dec 16, 2010

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
It wasn't so much that ICBMs were "dumb" (they weren't) but that their ballistic nature made all over our existing defense strategies, which were based around detecting and destroying bombers, obsolete. The Strategic Defense Initiative in the 1980s was Reagan's dumb attempt to try and get a nuclear leg up by creating a defense against ICBMs much they same way iyaayas01 described the creation of the SAGE system. The main difference was that SDI relied on unproven, infeasible technologies and would have served to do little more than unbalance the MAD equation.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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Burning Beard posted:

I don't think Ike knew quite what he was getting us into, like much of the Cold War it was marked by an-almost innocence as to the true cost of nuclear weapons.

On the contrary. Ike was very much aware of how the technology industry was beginning to drive the military, and he was very wary of what would happen once war and defense was put mainly into the hands of the business sector.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd8wwMFmCeE

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

NosmoKing posted:

Do the sexiest looking bomber of all time, the B-58.

Oh yeah. In the current issue of Strategy & Tactics magazine they had a short article about how the supersonic escape capsules designed for this were initially tested using semi-sedated bears.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

SyHopeful posted:



If I remember that story correctly when they let that thing go it almost hit one of the planes flying next to that A-1.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

I like turtles posted:

That's like something out of a loving Dethklok song

Fixed that for you.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
http://www.presstelegram.com/ci_16904390


quote:

Long Beach-built C-17 tops 2,000,000 flying hours

The worldwide fleet of C-17 Globemaster III airlifters built by The Boeing Company surpassed 2 million flying hours during an airdrop mission over Afghanistan on Dec. 10. Reaching 2 million flight hours equates to 1.13 billion nautical miles -- the equivalent of a C-17 flying to the moon and back 2,360 times.

Not a bomber, but neat.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
When I was a kid I went to an air show that feature a JATO equipped C-130. Loudest loving thing I've ever heard.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Army Trains Patriot Missile Crews Via iPhone

http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/03/theres-an-app-for-that-army-trains-patriot-missile-crews-via-iphone.php

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Note through time back to the Soviets: If you want good rocket engine designs don't rape and murder your way through the country with all the best rocket scientists in the world. They come to resent it.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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MA-Horus posted:

Also it's completely mind-blowing to think that, for all the costs of the Apollo program (yes it cost a whole loving load of money), Spending 8 years in Iraq has been vastly more expensive, and there hasn't been any really awesome technology developed from that.

I hear we've developed some really effective treatment regimes for PTSD.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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Shnitzel posted:

Reading about Gagarin lead me to the sad story of his homeboy Komarov taking one for the team :(

Why the hell would they have an open loving casket funeral for that dude?!

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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NosmoKing posted:

It might be good for when the aliens show up to have the dessicated mummy of a human in a space suit on the moon next to his lovely lunar lander that wouldn't ascend.

I'm imagining each successive cosmonaut climbing out of his lander and being given the task of collecting the body of his comrade for burial. That's a very Soviet sounding task list.

1. Land on moon by self in shoddily built equipment
2. Attend to mass grave
3. Raise glorious flag of socialism over moon!
4. TBD

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
I would imagine the bulk of Pakistan's air defenses are gathered on the borders it shares with India. They're undoubtedly a lot more concerned about an attack by air from the Indian Air Force than they are the Afghan one, or from the American one in Afghanistan for that matter.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Also the courtyard was full of women and children.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
They had seen it done on other planes and thought it was cool looking.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Here's a page with a bunch of unremarkable but huge photos of the 111th FW's old A-10s. They also got BRAAC'd away from Willow Grove a few years ago. I used to love it when these guys flew over my house when I was a kid. I threw the same fit that other kids threw when the ice cream man came up the street.

http://www.flyeronephotos.com/111FW/aircraft.htm

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Yeah Fort Indiantown Gap has the live fire range they used to train on.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Is their a version of the F22 that can land on a carrier?

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

iyaayas01 posted:

but it will do stupid poo poo like randomly fail for no reason when you are testing it. This isn't unique to the JASSM (almost every type of munition does this occasionally)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_14_torpedo

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Flanker posted:

I met a Czech guy today who had seen some poo poo but didn't want to talk about it.

There were no Czechslovakian soldiers (or any other Warsaw Pact nation) in the Soviet-Afghan war. The combat participation of Czech soldiers in the current Afghan war is pretty small. They have a presence in Logar province.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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NosmoKing posted:

The B-52 IIRC had DOWNWARD ejecting seats for some (two??) of the positions.

Yeah.

http://www.ejectionsite.com/b-52.htm

The navigator and radar navigator went out the bottom apparently.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Aciid c0d3r posted:

I found this site that has everything listed by state.

Wyoming's is great.

http://www.ki4u.com/webpal/d_resources/states/wy.htm

There's not much to shoot at in Wyoming... unless you live in Laramie county. Cheyenne Mountain and Warren Air Force Base get a little extra something. You know, just to make sure.

Edit: North Dakota is pretty hosed too, and their fallout pattern fucks much of the upper Midwest.

Scratch Monkey fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 25, 2011

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

NathanScottPhillips posted:

Cheyenne Mountain is in Colorado Springs about 180 miles away and that's where NORAD is.

Oops you're right. However I'm going to guess that that air force base I mentioned is in the middle of a missile field or something.

quote:

The mountain is actually cracked and unsuitable for the original goals, but they found out too late and decided to push forward.

I guess it found a second life as a provider of establishing shots for lots of movies and TV shows that take place in a cool looking underground military installation.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Blind Rasputin posted:

Why is Russia still doing this?

The Bears go up when Putin is feeling nostalgic.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Israel is also one if not the only nation in the region with both strong cultural ties with the US as well as lots of money and business ties. Our choices of allies in that part of the world is limited and Israel comes closer than any other to being a "good" ally.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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iyaayas01 posted:

Not trying to start/continue an Israel derail, but this is a pretty idealistic view.

Id call it more pragmatic than idealistic. Who else that deep in the middle east could we court for a meaningful alliance?

iyaayas01 posted:

Pollard was one of the worst spies in U.S. history, ranking right up there with Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen in terms of damage they did to national security.

The funniest part is that there are still huge number of people in Israel who see his conviction as some sort of unbelievable slap in the face of Israel including the current prime minister! Israel is truly the rich, whiney teenager of the first world.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
The German talent for gathering men and using them to create out of whole cloth effective fighting groups is testament enough to their field level officers' ability to think on their feet. Even the general officers in the Wehrmacht, the guys who talked to Hitler on a regular basis, had relatively little trouble ignoring him when they knew that his new dumb plan or order would get them all killed.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Wait, did I just wind up in GBS where saying something like "some of Hitler's generals (e.g. Paulus, Rommel, Guderian) ignored his orders when they thought they were stupid" means "I'm a Nazi"?

If you are interested in how Germany's "kampfgruppe" methodology was applied over the course of the war to consolidate routed troops into effective fighting forces don't take my word for it as apparently I'm just a Nazi loving stooge. Instead read pretty much any book about the German preparations before Operation Market Garden.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
The Israelis are so uncomfortable with how they did recently in Lebanon and Gaza that they've begun not to doubt their army but to doubt their own soldiers as a bunch oh spoiled brats. See Israel didn't fail to accomplish because the military isn't what people think it is but because Israeli kids are lazy what with their baggy pants and loud music.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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Phanatic posted:

Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe wasn't Microprose.

That was Lucasarts, right?

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Clancy wrote two good books: Red October and Red Storm Rising. It was all downhill after that.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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priznat posted:

I have cleansed out all my shameful books otherwise I would have some good competition for those pics.

As a rule when I read trash fiction I immediately give it away. Really its just going to take up space and i know i ain't gonna read it again. I sent two large boxes of lovely scifi novels to a buddy of mine at fort hood who was preparing to deploy. He was a PS so I'm wondering if he doled out 40k novels as either reward or punishment.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

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nnnnghhhhgnnngh posted:

Clancy went crazy? what?

His books took a decidedly sharp turn to the right over time. The best example of this of the latter books of his that I read were the bad guys in Rainbow Six: evil enviro-hippies. Seriously. They wanted to infect everyone at the olympics with a super bug (that they had a vaccine against) to quickly depopulate the planet so they could live in natural glory. Because the loved trees more than crippled children, one of whom they execute on live TV early on in the story.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Someone explain to me again why everyone has such a huge hate-on for the F-35?

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Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?
Apparently only the F-35C has the drogue option and not the F-35A Canada is buying.

So says Wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_refueling#Compatibility_issues

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