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Shif posted:I'm trying to find something to pass the time on long road trips. Couple of my friends have been steering me towards the Mahler compilations. Are there any other long duration (45+ minutes), primarily minor/sad/downer as a whole? One of the sadder works in classical music is the song cycle Winterreise (Winter journey) by Franz Schubert. The wikipedia article is a good read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winterreise I personally like the interpretations by Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau most, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8UDOmUcxCk Honj Steak fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Mar 3, 2014 |
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Shif posted:Wow, I love the tone/feel of that piece. Is there anything else along those lines that is strictly symphonic/orchestral? Generally, orchestral music is rarely written in order to create these intimately melancholic images you can often find in classical/romantic chamber music. Mahler and Schubert are actually two composers whose symphonic works sometimes also are able to evoke these "silent" emotions, but of course a large orchestra is not necessarily most suited for this task. An obvious recommendation regarding orchestral music by Schubert is his 8th, "Unfinished" Symphony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t2VUFN6dyQ
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diddy kongs feet posted:I'm the kind of piece of poo poo who talks a big classical music game without knowing anything about it. I've had nothing but Yasushi Akutagawa on loop lately and I want more (similar or otherwise) up-beat, motivational classical music. That's really the best I can articulate it, that's how bad I am. Akutagawa seems to be influenced both by Russian film music and ballet, so you obviously should first look up names like Shostakovich, Tchaikovsky or Kabalevsky. Maybe it could also be worth listening to program music of the romantic period, e.g. Mussorgsky, Borodin, Rimsky-Korsakov, Grieg or Smetana. Another genre suited for your "needs" could be light Operetta music, most notably Johann Strauß II. Honj Steak fucked around with this message at 15:05 on Mar 5, 2014 |
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Wow this video is hilariously over the top. 
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May 24, 2014 22:02
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I made a map for the politically-loaded maps thread.
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May 27, 2014 16:11
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There is some serious cult of genius in this thread. 
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Well let's just take a look at the scores. I highlighted the motifs I assume you meant and they are in fact quite similar. Beethoven  Tchaikovsky  The Beethoven is to be played at approximately twice the speed so the rhythmical structure is exactly the same. In each motif, the melody line begins with the highest note, drops then and goes up to the end again. So yes, there is a similarity, but I'm pretty sure that's only coincidence, not inspiration or quotation. Honj Steak fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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firebad57 posted:Thank you. I did, and it did. That's okay. I was surprised it lasted as long as it did. I'd be happy to participate in another, though my classical guitar career no longer affords me the time to make it happen, which is a pretty great thing. I'm pretty amazed to see other goons playing classical guitar professionally. I'm actually preparing to make a living with the guitar, too, here at a German Musikhochschule in Weimar. Funnily, I also recently did some recordings with the European pendant of Guitar Salon.  The transcription problem is only a problem of choosing the wrong pieces and writing badly and honestly a lot of guitarists don't do it very well. Yours, however, is absolutely awesome. There is not that much literature for three guitars, so any good addition to the repertoire is worth a lot! uXs posted:Does anyone happen to know what piece of music is playing in the revelation scene in the Extras episode with Kate Winslet? You can see the scene here: http://youtu.be/mhgGwH5haR8  Deutsches Kate Winslet ForumI think it's just a part of the movie score, sounds a lot like film music to me.
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krampster2 posted:I don't get Bach, is his music supposed to convey any emotion? I haven't listened to too much of his stuff (or much of the music from the baroque period at all) so am not really equipped to comment. Compositionally I see how his music is genius, but emotionally it feels to me as plain as white bread. Huge  and without doubt the most discussed topic of all I encounter as a classical musician.For many musicians, Bach is the ultimate composer both "technically" and emotionally but it's certainly hard to "get" from a solely modern or romantic perspective. For me personally Bach composed music that sometimes literally leaves me weeping in awe for hours, which no other composer has been able to induce so far.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgA3QHthLQU (cut into 6 parts) Even if sometimes with some questionable historical analysis this documentary features some of the best Bach interpreters and gives some amazing insight about the man and his music from J. E. Gardiner himself. Honj Steak fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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James The 1st posted:Expect for Schoenberg's school of atonal junk. That's quite harsh, at least Alban Berg is often discarded too early. He didn't write much (his work style was extremely slow and careful), but he used the new composing techniques highly imaginatively. Mederlock posted:I've been listening to Mahler's 5th and 6th Symphonies, and I've especially loved the poo poo out of the first two movements of the 6th (in the correct andante/scherzo order Bruckner and Richard Strauss are the first that come to my mind, although both can be very different to Mahler, who certainly composed the most "massive" music.
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Mederlock posted:My wallet is going to hurt next season... Or you come to glorious socialist Europe, live here, and have almost free classical music and opera houses in every town.  This is a slowly dying thing, though. gently caress the current cultural policies. 
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Mederlock posted:God drat I would love that. Maybe I should look seriously at one of the Scandinavian country's wicked foreign student university programs... To help you find the definitive place for your future home, have a map: But like I said, a lot of these orchestras are vanishing slowly but steadily, so hurry up. 
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Sometimes I've got the impression that it's particularly guys who don't want to be emotionally affected by the music that make the most noise. Also reverse psychology - "you're not allowed to cough here!".
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Hmm I can't think of any particular pieces right now, because right now I'm not able to listen to the things you posted, but the first names that came to my mind when reading your list were somehow Schubert and Fauré. Are you already familiar with their works? If it's not what your looking for, give them a fair try anyway. Especially Schubert is an incredibly limitless composer imo.
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krampster2 posted:Have any of the musical goons in this thread had run ins with terrible conductors before? A few years ago my guitar duo partner played a solo concert with orchestra in Azerbaijan. The conductor (who worked and lived in Europe) was apparently extremely nervous as it was his debut concert in his native country. A few minutes before the concert started he would burst into the backstage room where my friend prepared and yell at her that she better had to play perfect because else it would be a desaster of incredible proportions. Best thing to do with a young musician. The concert went well and he was much more relaxed afterwards, but he never apologised.
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The Magic Flute is not overrated, it's just hopelessly overplayed.
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cebrail posted:Why would it have anything to do with quality? If the 100th recording of a Beethoven symphony sells 10 times as much as a Reinecke symphony, it's not a tough decision. Universal is a corporation, not a non-profit for the promotion of classical music. At least DG isn't putting out cheap crap, that alone puts them near the top of classical labels. And that's probably because of the psychological phenomenon that most of the times people tend to enjoy music more when they know it already. The market share of classical music is tiny and most people buy it extremely rarely, so they are more likely to stick to things they already are somehow familiar with.
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Someone just discovered a long lost piece by Stravinsky: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/sep/06/igor-stravinsky-lost-work-emerges-after-100-years
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It also gives you access to a good amount of recordings, documentaries and movies surrounding everything the Berliners are doing and playing.
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Nikolaus Harnoncourt retired today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nGs3luKYBw
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I highly admire Segovia, but if I were to choose between him and Bream I would always go for Bream. Segovia was the most influential guitarist of the last century but he had some really bad habits musically (way too often preferring changing notes over changing fingerings) while being massively reactionary to almost everything happening in 20th century music. I agree that guitarists nowadays are often somewhat afraid of using the whole spectrum of tone colours. But that's not necessarily always an undesirable development, setting standards for general tone quality. A bigger problem I see even amongst the most successful guitarist at competitions all over the world is the prevailing cluelessness (sometimes I'm afraid even carelessness) when it comes to stylistic choices and especially rhythm. It's just too common to hear a piece completely rendered unrecognisable because the soloist plainly ignores basic rhythmical indications and I'm afraid even amongst jurors many appreciate that as a sign of apparent "individuality".
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firebad57 posted:Apologies for the double post, but this is a slightly different subject. I'm really curious about examples of what you mean. You sound like a person who is in our world, and I'm definitely familiar with the concept of what you're saying, but I'd love some demonstrations. Obviously, the subject of interpretation - and maybe especially rubato and rhythm as they relate to it - is about as subjective as it gets, so I am always curious about other people's definitions of "too far". I think it's not even a question of too much rubato. If the rubato is executed faithfully so that the "stolen" time is given back and the relative proportions of note values are comprehensible I can deal with massive amounts of agogical freedom. The problem is more with plain misreading of rhythm, which unfortunately happens a lot. I was honestly horrified by the beginning of Viloteau's Fantaisie Elegiaque, especially because I usually really appreciate a lot of the things he does. That stuff is basically written like the introduction of an orchestral Beethoven piece and any conductor would keep a traceable beat for his musicians. The way Thomas plays it a lot of the lines and phrasing simply get lost and with it the immense tension building up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buhQtXKc88U Also Henze. Just look for the Tentos, many (at least on Youtube) pay very little attention to the incredibly detailed rhythmical ideas that guy always writes into his music.
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krampster2 posted:I love going to my local SO (Queensland Symphony Orchestra) because they have amazing student prices. $50 for any seat in the hall, even box seats which are normally $120! It's a good thing too considering the rising average concert age that people always go on about. I try and do my bit by taking friends who don't normally listen to classical but I think they just like getting to dress up and see the big hall. Student prices at my local full-sized professional philharmonic orchestra: mostly 0€, sometimes 5€ 
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krampster2 posted:Do you need an EU passport to reap the benefits of cheap tickets? You need to have a student card, nationality doesn't matter. But even without one most orchestras in Germany and Austria are comparably cheap and most places have tickets around 20€ available and it rarely gets more expensive than 70€. Even the Berlin Philharmonics, who sell >95% of their tickets, get most of their income from public funding.
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A human heart posted:Do any of you classical guys that actually know what they're talking about know something that sounds similar to Silvestrov's Requiem for Larissa? Either some of his other works that are close or other composers who've done similar stuff. First composer I would look up is Arvo Pärt, maybe Cantus in memoriam Benjamin Britten?
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There's a thousand different ways of how to listen to classical music and even trained professionals differ in how they perceive it. If you for some reason want to improve your purely analytical hearing I would very much recommend learning at least a bit of piano and how to read notation, but that's definitely not necessary to enjoy the works. A simple way to improve the attention you pay to the music is by honing "synaesthetical skills" such as imagining a story unfolding or a painting being made along with the sounds you hear.
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The 555 Scarlatti Sonatas! You can spend years exploring these and they're excellent.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:out of curiosity does anyone have any pianist favorites who specialize in 20th century/contemporary/avant-garde stuff who aren't Marc-Andre Hamelin I recently enjoyed an album called "Avant-garding Mompou" by the Catalan pianist Maria Canyigueral.
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Mozart is an interesting challenge to musicians because it only sounds good if it seems easy and natural to the listener, but its actually often really difficult to play with very demanding articulation and phrasing. The beauty is often in small structures and details, bird song and cheeky contrasts. Beethoven is often much more „massive“ in comparison.
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