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Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

a kitten posted:

I was looking for a gif from Lovely Complex

Someone say...gif?



I want to gif that entire show.

I plan to read the manga for Kimi ni Todoke after this new season is over because I can't imagine they'll give it more seasons if other series that are just as good haven't been given any beyond two. I'll just have to avert my eyes from the discussion until then.

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Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
I just finished watching Air because I thought it was weird it didn't get as much praise as the Kanon 2006 remake and Clannad. Dunno if other people got the same feeling as me, which is that I think it got the short end of the stick what with it having to stuff its whole storyline into half a season compared to the other two. I also watched it so I could write out its ADTRWiki entry and complete the trio. Hopefully some people can write some personal opinions on it besides me.

Can't believe Air ends with such a :smith: ending too. In Kanon at least Ayu woke up from her coma and in Clannad they added that game mechanic of Tomoya earning enough karma balls to save Nagisa from dying giving childbirth. Also, a question. I'm not even clear on the whole Ryuya-from-the-past-having-a-child thing to break the curse. My understanding is that Yukito didn't break the curse and simply died by being close to Misuzu while that little boy on the beach was destined to be the next male to try to break the curse. Am I right, and is there pretty much nothing further to the story beyond the end of the anime?

And I just remembered that Air's main female (Misuzu's) voice actress died last month due to cancer and it made watching Air extra sad.

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...

Keyboard Kid posted:

But then again, not too much is perfectly clear in the series, so you're free to interpret it as you wish. I really enjoyed Air TV, and it has quite the emotional ending, but it needed more airtime. Most of the minor arcs seem really unimportant in comparison to the major story.

More major Air spoilers: If there was anything alluding to Misuzu ending the curse, I don't remember it. My interpretation is that Misuzu reached her "goal," which was to try her hardest to have fun for once during summer with people she loved (Yukito and Misuzu's mom) before she was fated to die. The curse lives on because she failed to survive and Sora the crow was sorta of this weird entity of Yukito seeing the whole story from another point of view after he died from deciding to stay with Misuzu and taking the consequences. Being the crow also let him come back one more time to encourage Misuzu to reach her "goal." Then here I speculate with even less to work on: Yukito gives all the knowledge he got from seeing the past, his normal life, and the view from being a crow to that little boy at the beach because the little boy was the next heir of sorts from the samurai Ryuya to try to end the curse. Ugh,:iiam:

I regret trying to Google other explanations to Air's story because they all sound exaggerated and there was even a few people acting like everyone else just doesn't "get it" and they're super deep or some poo poo.

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
I haven't read Usagi Drop but a lot of what you guys are saying reminds me of the relationship between Shuji and Hagu in Honey and Clover. I don't know what happens storywise after what the anime covers, but the backstory was similar in that Hagu was left without a guardian after her grandma died and is taken up by the much older Shuji who at the end of the second season confesses he likes her. Has anyone who read all of Honey and Clover know if the end is as crap as how Usagi Drop turned out?

Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
I did that myself last summer, marathoning Air and all. It probably is the worst out of the three big ones Key did (Air, Kanon, Clannad), but it got a tough break having only the span of a half season, so maybe two episodes were spent on each of the other girl characters. Otherwise I think it could be on par with Kanon if they had the space. And being the first of their major series, they suffered from some serious anime eyes and tiny mouth.

And I know you were mentioning KyoAni in general, but being reminded of Key works, the worst one I'd have to say is Angel Beats. Someone recently recommended it to me and I took up their suggestion because apparently the creator was part of Key before and there was supposed to be some romance so why not. I stopped in the middle of episode 12 (second to last one) because I honestly couldn't take any more of the generic animation, badly explained video game plot, and I hate all the characters. The only "tragic background" I cared for were the milquetoast main guy's train accident, but everything else seemed forced. For instance, when does something like Yuri's tragic murder ever happen in real life? Her siblings and her are left home alone in a rich house (and had no caretakers or butlers there?) and some thieves break in and brutally murder them one by one if Yuri (who's like 12 at the time?) doesn't find them some mad cash laying around the house. The rest is just an exercise in Japanese inserting guns because it looks cool and they have a flaming hard-on for real guns because they're not allowed to have them, and horrible stock characters. I really really hate the guy who spouts random English.

At least for this fall I want to try watching Say "I Love You" (Suki-tte Ii na yo) because the characters at least look somewhat grown-up. This series apparently has a manga, so has anyone read it and is it interesting?

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Willsun
Dec 9, 2006

I willed too hard again...
Decided to give Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun the anime a try and I like it so far with 3 episodes in. I was desperately hoping throughout the first episode that the whole dog-collar-and-chain visual was purely for the OP's sake and evidently the manga cover, because that stuff is one of the most off-putting things to ever see at an anime convention. Does anyone know how many episodes this show's supposed to get? I like the pace it's going at, but I'm also sensing that it might be because it'll get a half season treatment.

I'm also wanting to try out Suki-tte Ii na yo since I haven't seen any promising shoujo anime since Kimi ni Todoke. I actually wanted to watch that first before Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, but I thought I might not enjoy Tonari and wanted to get it out of the way. Anyone watched both so far? How does Suki-tte measure up?

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