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I'm the "watching the first episode of Usagi Drop lowered my blood pressure by 10 points" guy. I still stand by it, and indeed hope they do some Executive Meddling and change the final storyline if they continue the anime. I heard the Usagi Drop ending was bad, like really, really, really bad, this was shortly before I started the anime. So after watching the five episodes on Crunchyroll, I decided to blitz through the manga to see what the fuss was about. Boy howdy, I actually laughed at how bad the ending was. It was easily the most hamfisted out of the blue and out of character Gainax Ending I've ever seen. I like the final chapter's author's note, "look forward to my future works!" Lady, I hope you become a loving industry pariah after pulling that poo poo. I would love to see the reaction from Yen Press after they saw how it ended, because I am sure that sort of thing won't fly well in the US(especially with Usagi Drop being nominated for an Eisner Award) and they've already put out multiple volumes. I was getting a bit nervous and thinking that was where it was heading even before the timeskip, because of all the blushing Rin did. But I figured like, she or someone would abruptly die in a train crash or something absurdly morbid, and that was the really bad ending. But no, my initial fear proved true. I kinda want the upcoming "bonus chapter" to reveal that the final plotline was all just an insane hallucination as Rin bleeds out in the street after being hit by a car. It'd be better than what we loving got, at least. Jesus. I actually liked the timeskip. It was interesting, though not as adorable. The stuff between Kouki and Rin was pretty entertaining and made sense. I literally facepalmed when, at the last loving second, Rin's mom deadpans "Soichi wasn't the father. You're not blood relatives." That was the worst part about it to me, the entire ordeal was an abomination, but that part was the worst sort of M. Night Shyamalan WHAT A TWEEST!-ing that enabled the resulting finale! Hortism posted:As bad as the ending is, the people that actually LIKE the ending because it's not a cliche are far worse. cecropiamoth posted:Things like this ending happen. People and their feelings are infinitely variable. It seems to me valid to tell a story about one relationship that develops this way. With these two not being blood-related, there is no incest. I imagine people, especially fathers, are generally rational in the feelings they choose to allow themselves to have about daughters or daughter stand-ins. I have no children, but I can't imagine ever contemplating incest with a daughter without thoroughly rejecting the idea immediately. But then, this is not that case.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 10:54 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 01:32 |
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Forgot to mention thismusouka posted:Not only that, but the ending deliberately ties Rin's behavior in the early chapters to her romantic feelings. So, for me personally, it even taints the early chapters. It really is the worst ending. It actually made me mad, that's how bad it was. FFFFFFFFFFffff
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 13:07 |
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Azuma has more experience and has been doing this for a lot longer than the Usagi Drop person, who I believe they said it was their first series? And was only supposed to be a single volume originally? Maybe they got disgruntled from executive meddling stretching the series out and wrote up that middle finger ending. I want to know what the reaction to the last storyline was in Japan. Torches and pitchforks? Disgusting sycophancy? The anime and movie were both planned before the final storyline right?
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2011 13:38 |
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cisneros posted:Just out of morbid curiosity, how did they explain Rin not being related to Daikichi? was her mom been lying all this time thus making her the worst person ever? quote:Note: I haven't read the manga, so this is pure guessing, however I mention a few things from the latest episode.
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# ¿ Aug 13, 2011 09:30 |
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DarthJon posted:So you guys have heard of the Thornbirds right? What exactly excuses it in Usagi Drop just because it's been done before.
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# ¿ Aug 14, 2011 23:56 |
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Also that he knew from the start she wasn't his blood relative, and it's only revealed in the second to last loving chapter. Ham-fisted barely begins to describe it, and that's ignoring that it comes out of nowhere as the loving series finale. There is no other leadup that can't be written off as innocent(until you've read the finale). It looked to me like she didn't want to do the story anymore and just threw it in the toilet to end it as quickly as possible. Or she's just creepy, which is also entirely possible. edit: no, the true villain of Usagi Drop is Daikichi's hesitation in going after Kouki's mom early on!
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# ¿ Aug 15, 2011 03:12 |
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Stop putting words in people's mouths. Nobody said it was LITERALLY HITLER. You're getting outraged in this thread about things people are saying in other threads, which is all fine and dandy, but stop acting like it's specifically us who are saying that, because nobody's posts in this thread have. I've actually gone on to begin reading My Girl and will soon finally give Beelzebub a shot after reading UD. And I have, in fact, been recommending Usagi Drop to a lot of people regardless. I just tell them that about a half dozen chapters before the end, the author decided to ruin the series, and that "you'll know when it starts and you'll probably want to stop reading at that point because it's downhill from there". Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 15, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 15, 2011 22:30 |
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Holy moly, My Girl is a loving rollercoaster of and . I finally started really reading it, I'm on chapter 14 and Jesus Christ. Is it monthly? Bimonthly? How often does it come out, it says it was released in 2007 but there's only 24 chapters up, did the group translating it drop it? I was told it's like Usagi Drop, but it really isn't. It's cute but it's a hell of a lot more depressing as it goes. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Aug 19, 2011 |
# ¿ Aug 19, 2011 05:37 |
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Yeah, I'm seeing that now that I'm on chapter 23, there's a whole lot of drama and not as much parenting/family antics like you would see in Usagi Drop's first half or Yotsuba. It's still damned good though. Maybe not as good as pre-43 Usagi Drop was or Yotsuba consistently is, but it's still excellent and adorable. Also his dad reminds me of Suguru from Mahoromatic, but with a ridiculous moustache.
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# ¿ Aug 19, 2011 07:53 |
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The Black Stones thinks that they can't gently caress up Usagi Drop's anime since there's only three episodes left. As the anime thread is a no-manga-allowed zone, I'm responding to it here:The Black Stones posted:I don't know why people still think this is going to happen. There is 2 episodes left. If they were going to have gone for the manga's ending they would have prepared for it by now. Presto, ruined anime to go along with a ruined manga.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2011 22:49 |
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Jesus, it wasn't serious or I EXPECT IT TO END THIS WAY DEFINITELY. It was meant to be absurd. I absolutely think that if they mention the timeskip at all it'll be like what was suggested by Black Stone. And yeah Kweh, Usagi Drop's ending did sour the rest of it for a lot of people. Now when I suggest it to people I just tell them to stop reading at chapter 43.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2011 02:54 |
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If you haven't watched the Usagi Drop anime yet, I suggest doing so. It's exceptionally well done, completely disregards the timeskip and manga ending, and is cute as a button. (*' 3 '*)
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2011 19:23 |
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coathat posted:New kuragehime http://www.mangafox.com/manga/kuragehime/v08/c040/1.html
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# ¿ Oct 9, 2011 23:38 |
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On chapter 34 of Kuragehime and I've gotta say I much, much, MUCH prefer the direction the manga's taken as opposed to the anime's rather rushed final episodes. Plus, Mayaya actually became useful for something!
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# ¿ Oct 24, 2011 09:19 |
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So I guess that My Girl by Sahara Mizu has been dropped by all the groups scanlating it, and also that the entire series has now been completed in five volumes. Is there an SA scanning group? It's a really great series and I'd love to see the rest of it. I'd chip in if it'd take some kind of commission to get it finished properly. edit: I just got an email saying that chapter 25 just got released RIGHT NOW, I'm guessing a goon who is on one of the scanlation teams saw my post? Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Nov 4, 2011 |
# ¿ Nov 4, 2011 11:02 |
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DrSunshine posted:Looks like they've scanlated some chapters of another manga by the woman who did Bunny Drop. Never trusting anything they make ever again. "It's very cute" is what Bunny Drop was at the start, too.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2011 01:27 |
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Pollyanna posted:I'm gonna be a horrible person and plug something I translated in here.
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# ¿ May 14, 2012 03:44 |
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Are there any other feel-good, based on reality stories like Husky and Medley?
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# ¿ May 15, 2012 20:21 |
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I wasn't talking about yuri specifically. Just any good romance that's based on a real story, and not just tangentially.
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# ¿ May 16, 2012 21:13 |
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Mahoromatic's manga ending is great. Suguru did exactly what he said he'd do if Mahoro disappeared, he'd revert back to the way he used to be before Mahoro came into his life. With the addition of becoming a vengeful avatar of destruction whose sole reason for existence is hunting down and exterminating every last member of The Keepers. The creepy stuff is a bummer. There's not really any excuse for having so much of it and so detailed, dude's got a thing for little girls(and teachers). When the artist isn't perving out it's a cute short series that has some super wacky character designs and questionable art quality at many points. I wouldn't hate cats if I could have one that was as big as a dog, could speak, shoot lasers, and had the personality of a crotchety old man. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:47 on May 25, 2012 |
# ¿ May 25, 2012 15:43 |
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My Girl has finally been updated with three new chapters. I wonder what'll happen in'em. edit: these scanlations for the last few chapters are kinda rough, but I'll tolerate'em because more My Girl! Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Jun 18, 2012 |
# ¿ Jun 17, 2012 22:27 |
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Chapter 30 of My Girl has been released. At least they're still coming, albeit slowly...
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# ¿ Jul 12, 2012 09:40 |
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Chapter 36 of My Girl is out, there've been a good clump of new chapters lately, scanlations have been coming out much more frequently than before. This one is especially great. How long is this series, 50 chapters I've heard, is that correct? If so, there's still a pretty decent amount of chapters to go before it finishes.
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# ¿ Sep 28, 2012 00:48 |
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New My Girl. I really like this one and the previous chapter. I also love the simplified faces the artist gives Koharu when she's happy or playing, they're really cute, almost Yotsuba-like.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2012 22:48 |
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How is Bonnouji so consistently god drat good?!
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2012 00:07 |
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Yeah, what is it, 44 chapters? It would suck to get a downer ending with that series.
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# ¿ Dec 1, 2012 03:12 |
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http://www.mangareader.net/my-girl-sahara-mizu/42 My Girl 42's out, only a couple more to go I believe. We seem to be headed for a happy ending after all. I'm so glad! This chapter was really adorable and heartwarming.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2012 00:13 |
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The final two chapters of My Girl were just released together. I'm really glad I got to see this series all the way to the end. I'm also really happy it ended the way it did, and didn't overstay its welcome. The characters were adorable, the faces were great, about the only complaint I have is everyone's ears, but that's a minor one. I'm so glad it didn't end on a downer note. If you haven't, I'd suggest giving My Girl a read through now that it's over.
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# ¿ Dec 19, 2012 11:41 |
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Where the gently caress are the Bonnouji updates. It's two months out of date!
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# ¿ Jan 16, 2013 19:33 |
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Well, it's manga, but you should probably read Bonnouji. It's really good and doesn't hide stuff. I'd argue for a Bonnouji thread on its own, it's that good.
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# ¿ Feb 9, 2013 09:05 |
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Yeah, Bonnouji and Jellyfish Princess are the two I'd recommend. Though for some reason it feels like neither has been updated in forever.
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2013 12:09 |
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Sahara Mizu's My Girl was also really good, and ended really strong. I'd definitely suggest it for an OP spot. It's essentially a slightly more melancholy Usagi Drop that doesn't poo poo the bed at the end.
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# ¿ Apr 4, 2013 13:26 |
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These latest Kuragehime chapters have been pretty great. I like that there's a big bad now, and chapter 59's ending is quite something else. Wonder what'll happen with that! "This is a gathering for losers, after all." That should be the subtitle for ADTRW. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Apr 26, 2013 |
# ¿ Apr 26, 2013 13:42 |
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And speaking of Bonnouji, has it been dropped by the group that was scanlating it?
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# ¿ May 27, 2013 00:00 |
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So how many volumes does that make all told, 3 or 4?
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# ¿ May 27, 2013 08:55 |
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That post is SO ANIME. You can HEAR the record scratch after the first paragraph.
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# ¿ May 30, 2013 08:13 |
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Someone mentioned Sasameki Koto in the convince-with-one-panel thread. So I read it, and it was...not great? Good? Alright? I like a good bit about it, the almost complete lack of fanservice, the artstyle(the artist really does good "Bomberman faces" and low-detail goofy faces, characters aren't overly sexualized and for the most part can be easily told apart) some of the characters, the backgrounds, Miyako also owns for being such a jerkass and having really great low-detail(is there a term for that?) faces when she talks poo poo about people. I liked interaction between the leads when they weren't critical moments being conveniently interrupted so they could forget about them or waffle on them for 3-4 chapters at a time, but eventually it got to a point where you could tell they were together but it didn't necessarily need the I LOVE YOU trigger to kick it off, though there was eventually a few of those thrown about. Some of the character growth was really well done and gradually changed though. I didn't like how it felt disjointed a lot(didn't the author say it was initially just a one-shot that got serialized?), some of the characters were pretty pointless, many of the tangents were awful and could have been cut entirely, the cliches abounded(the ditz who they even lampshade!, the tween-in-high-school, The Scrappy(Mayu), the secret crossdressing boy, convenient interruptions delay advancement by entire volumes, the series ends literally as the two main characters go for broke) not that they're entirely bad things necessarily, and some are done decently enough. Scenes drag out, seemingly shoehorned characters are added, I dunno. I think I liked it, overall, but it wasn't amazing, I wouldn't even say it's great. It was overall fun but way longer than it needed to be. It could also just be called Every Character's A Secret Lesbian and be done with it, though I have a feeling that could go for a lot of the same genre stuff. Is there something like that that's less...filler-ey? It really seemed like executive meddling might've caused a bunch of extra stuff to be shoved in, turning it into a Ranma-esque drawn-out love story with wacky hijinks and convenient character placement stopping confessions and stuff, and small moves forward would be made and then utterly set aside for really grueling/bland deviations. And as always, I do enjoy a story, such as Bonnouji, that doesn't spend an eternity building up to a relationship and then having the actual end of the series being the cementing of that relationship. That might just be one of my biggest pet peeves, series that do that. Or hell, a series that isn't afraid to say/show that sex is a normal and healthy part of a relationship(again, like Bonnouji) and not some mythical goal or taboo not to be mentioned at all. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 11:32 on Jul 12, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 12, 2013 11:27 |
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Dunno if B Gata H Kei counts since it's pretty...Ranma-esque? in its romance (for a while at least), but against my better judgement I plowed through the whole 300 chapters of it. It could, of course, be shortened by as much as half since there's a bunch of repeated gags and stuff over the course of the seven years it ran for, but at the end of it, it was a really enjoyable series. I thought it would just be a cute wacky "sex comedy"(as in, implying but not showing) like it was described as, but no, it's ACTUALLY a sex comedy that also happens to be hyper-wacky and exaggeratedly anime most of the time. Was genuinely surprised to see a high-detail, full-color, two-page spread of Yamada and Kosuda bonin' for the first time after Kosuda sticks it in. Naturally this was the perfect punchline for the page immediately prior to it and was actually really funny in context after all the buildup the series had. I think the series could have continued(I don't know of any series that continue after they graduate from high school...) but that was a pretty entertaining series. A Komatsu Dump Truck-full of wacky misunderstandings, feeling denials and convenient walk-ins meant that it goes on for maybe twice as long as it might have needed to and I almost just said "gently caress it" and was about to skip 30 chapters at a time because it was dragging so badly, but overall it was pretty enjoyable and the character growth over the course of the entire thing was definitely noticeable! If you can endure the slow parts, it's definitely worth a read I'd say!
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2013 16:28 |
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Kissmanga is really good for that, it let me just scrollwheel through chapters effortlessly rather than click-page-click-page-click-page. Made for easy skimming. Also, I asked this in the Recommendation Thread but I'll ask here too: how did it get in Shounen Jump with how uncensored it is about pretty much everything?
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# ¿ Jul 21, 2013 17:00 |
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# ¿ May 6, 2024 01:32 |
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Why does it start at volume 5, chapter 34? What about the other 33 chapters? Looking around, it seems like the first four volumes are a different story, I take it? edit: ah yeah, seems to be about a crossdressing boy based on the first chapter. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Jul 22, 2013 |
# ¿ Jul 22, 2013 06:41 |