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Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Squashy Nipples posted:

I think it's safe to say at this point that the show is in decline... it's still worth listening to, and it still produces great radio on occasion. But that begs the question: at what point did it 'jump the shark'?

Opinions, please.

Howard's divorce/Jackie leaving

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Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Mr Lance Murdock posted:

Not in my opinion. The shows following his divorce were actually pretty good and all the shows leading up to Artie getting the Jackie Chair were great, but a lot of that had to do with the fact that they had great people sitting in the Jackie chair.

An argument for when Stuttering John left the show could be made. 99% of the ball busting and arguments came from John starting poo poo.

I am well aware of how against the norm my Stern opinions are. I love Eric the Midget and Jackie. Busting on Jackie was always my favorite part of the old show: his lovely jokes, his horrible merchandise, his 12 houses, the jetty, etc. Hysterical. ANYONE doing a Jackie impression never fails to make me laugh. Losing him was a huge blow to the show from which it has never recovered.

And Howard's divorce was the moment that Stern completely lost his levity. It was his final step in the transformation from relatable everyman to old rich douchebag. Despite how often he would crow about what his exploits would be like if he was single, he was constantly mum, saying "I can't talk about it because of my daughters" or passing notes to people in the studio giving out details he was keeping from the audience. Then he started dating someone 20 years younger and it was all over.

That's not to say that the show has not been enjoyable since these two events, but it's was certainly the beginning of the end. I've never like Artie. Never found him funny. Benji in the studio sucks and you can always tell which lame jokes are passed from him to Howard. Then the move to Sirius sent the show into a nosedive.

There's definitely been a few highpoints: the hiring of Richard Christy, discovering Eric the midget, the Sal apology....

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

-Atom- posted:

And include this. I started listening to this show two or three years ago and followed it step by step.

Props to whoever came up with it.


1. Who the hell is this Ralph guy?

2. drat, that Ralph guy is annoying.

3. I hate Ralph.

4. I want Ralph to die slowly in a fire.

5. drat, sometimes that jerk Ralph has huge balls.

6. I still hate Ralph, but I enjoy his contributions to the show.

7. I grudgingly respect Ralph.

8. I like Ralph, the show wouldn't be the same without him.

Apparently I've been stuck on step 4 for about 15 years....

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
SO, Netflix has been putting up every episode of SNL for streaming and the other night I came across the episode with Howard from when he was promoting Private Parts. Yikes...it was awful.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

IzzyFnStradlin posted:

Do you have the date?

Also, that's funny that you think it is so bad, as didn't Howard spazz out about wanting TOTAL control over the writing of his segment?

Season 22 (1996-1997), Alec Baldwin episode. Stern is on during Norm's news segment.

For those of you without Netflix: Stern comes out as a commentator, talks about how awful he thinks SNL is (except Norm) and about some of the unfunny sketches he proposed (Fartman blows Kathy Lee's head off and a tumor out of Elizabeth Taylor's head, which Taylor then eats). They then show the lamest, most uninteresting 15 second clip from Private Parts, and when they return, there's a bunch of chicks in bikinis making out and writing around on the news desk.

I can't imagine anyone outside of Howard's core audience being interested in the movie after this segment.

ETA: Found a transcript - http://snltranscripts.jt.org/96/96nupdate.phtml

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
There's also a sketch about a debate between Stern and Cuomo when he was running for Governor. It's in the John Goodman episode in season 19. Michael McKean actually does a really good Howard, and Sandler is funny as Fa Fa Fo-hai.

Transcript: http://snltranscripts.jt.org/93/93sdebate.phtml

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

DangerDummy! posted:

Maybe I'm goddamn nuts, but I'd like to see KC get a shot at the Artie chair for awhile. Even if it's just for a week at a time, like George Takei.

I don't see it happening, because wasn't the circumstances of him leaving the show similar to Artie's (totally hosed up on drugs)?

I love me some KC, though. My favorite KC story was when he won a significant amount of money on one hand of online poker, and then pissed it all away in, like, 2 days by continuing to gamble with it.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Vinlaen posted:

Is there any video of the Howard Stern show any more?

I remember back when he was on E! it was a television show as well as radio... (right?)

He has an uncensored OnDemand channel that you pay a monthly fee for.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Manwithastick posted:

At least twice in the video, he pauses so long I thought the video had crashed :)

Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EafeQdjGUo

He talks about the shooting in Tusan and the first thing he says:
"this proves I am not dead"

class act Eric

This video is great, because as soon as I heard about the shooting my immediate thought was, "I wonder what Eric the Midget thinks about this. I bet he has an interesting and unique perspective..."

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
I was really close to putting Eric the Midget on my Death Pool list, but then I realized that there's no way that he would give the show the satisfaction of dying while they are on the air.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
I'm really irritated by the way Howard has been discussing the Sirius app, because I honestly can't think of anything that could have possibly stood in the way of his show being available on it before now other than Howard himself. Now he's completely overcompensating, talking like the app is the greatest thing ever, "finally our show is on the mobile app", like he demanded it be on there in his new contract or something.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

AltronHGX posted:

They just started, Howard announced at most normal :woop:

Bullshit. Either it's rigged or everyone else is EXTREMELY hosed up.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

heavy liquid posted:

Oh good, Joan Rivers is on next! What's it been, four or six weeks since she was on last?

Well, I know what part of today's episode *I'll* be fast forwarding through...

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
I know I'm behind here (I'm still listening to last week), but seriously, enough with the loving phone talk. I can't stand it when people obsess over their loving phones in real life, why would I want to hear about it on the radio?

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Squashy Nipples posted:

Pretty much. That conversation drove me up a wall... I don't know which part was worse, Howard's total lack of comprehension, or John Hine's inability to communicate anything about it.

I hate John Hine so much. He is an expert on nothing, he's got an annoying loving voice, and I have no idea why he needs to be on every loving show on the channel.

ETA: And his feelings on fast food are MORONIC.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
With the way Charlie Sheen is about porn, maybe they should have him host Inside the Porn Actor's Studio with Richard...

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Shes Not Impressed posted:

I know a certain member of the Jersey Shore cast Howard would love to interview.

Jersey Shore? What is that? Who watches it? I don't get it...

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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TheLakers posted:

Am I the only one who loves Jon Hein? I would totally listen to a 3 hour Jon Hein show.

The only thing worse than Jon Hein is the plain McDonald's hamburgers he ingests every day.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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Mr Lance Murdock posted:

Something that always annoys me about Hein is that he abbreviates everyone's first name to try to sound casual and it just sounds douchy.

I can't stand the cadence he gives his voice when he reads the previews for the Wrap Up Show. One of the few things I liked about Artie was when he used to make fun of it.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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Kelly posted:

Let me preface this by saying I find Kevin Smith to be insufferable. He has diarrhea of the mouth, and I had to stop following him on Twitter because he was flooding my feed.

(Though his early movies will always have a special place in my heart)

That said - Howard completely made something up this morning in his discussion about why they don't have Kevin on the show - he said they don't have directors on often. That is utter bullshit. Just in the Sirius years they've had a ton: Quentin Tarantino, Eli Roth, Franics Ford Coppola, Ron Howard, M. Night, and James Cameron. (Though that might have been pre-Sirius.)

Um...wasn't Ron Howard just on last week?

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Kelly posted:

Awhile back, some reviewer walked in the middle of one of his movies and he threw a holy fit. He seems to get upset really easily for someone in the entertainment industry. He's that guy who pretends to be all chill and relaxed but is really angry not far under the surface.

That was Joel Seigel, and it wasn't that he walked out of Clerks 2, but that he loudly stood up and said "That's it! Time to leave!" before he walked out. If you want to walk out of a movie because you're offended, go for it, but for a critic to make a scene like that was completely unprofessional.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

heavy liquid posted:

I loved Artie (when he wasn't high) but also thought the "laugh at everything guy" was one of his weaker shticks.

I really hate Artie, but I'd be willing to let him stay if he did that character all the time. It was one of the few genuinely funny things he ever did.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
Howard thinks Dan Fogler was Booger in Revenge of the Nerds? Not only does he look nothing like Curtis Armstrong, he's also 23 years younger than him.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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CHANNEL 88??!!!

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
Robin thinks Howard switching to Macs would be "a coup for Apple"? I guarantee you that Apple doesn't give two shits what computer Howard uses.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

ChubbyEmoBabe posted:

Hmm let's see:

:munch:T-O:munch::munch:-P:munch:-L-E:munch::munch:-S-:munch:S

Who's High Pitch?

Where has he been lately anyway?

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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So Howard was excited to be watching that "new" Jet Li movie on his iPad, "Kiss of the Dragon"....which came out 10 years ago. :what:

I mean, seriously, Bidget Fonda hasn't even been *IN* a movie for 10 years!

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
Angry Young Man and Scenes from an Italian Restaurant just came out for Rock band, and I'm going to have difficulty not singing them like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Ck6eP1mrs&t=20s

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
Listening to the show from yesterday and I just got to Howard's cousins. All I needed to hear was "we are being lead by the nose by the Media Scientific Industrial Complex", and I knew it was time to fast forward...

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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Streebs posted:

I don't see why it's so obvious that Howard's staff is being paid so little. Why would they stay at that job if they got paid poo poo? Really other than John who has left for a better offer?

Who do you think from his staff is getting an offer to do anything?

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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AxeManiac posted:

Well yeah, but a lot of people are mean to her. She seems like a nice person.

I try to think that, too, but then I remember that lovely dog book she wrote that just copied a bunch of information from the internet and what a lovely charity North Shore Animal League is.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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What the gently caress is Howard's problem with movies about someone being falsely accused?

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

-Atom- posted:

Didn't his mother embarrass him by finding some underwear with skidmarks? Or was it that he buried some underwear because he didn't want his mother to find it?

I believe both statements are true.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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CHANNEL 88?! BAGGAGE!!!

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

heavy liquid posted:

Ha! I knew the Debbie/rear end Napkin Ed thing was fake.

They just admitted it was some lame April fools joke and scheme for them to get more airtime.

I don't understand, who in the Wack Pack is currently getting more airtime than the Pet Lady?

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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heavy liquid posted:

Note that I'm counting the skits and songs that they play leading into and out of the commercials as part of the breaks.

I wouldn't count that because lately that's been the best part of the show.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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heavy liquid posted:

Yeah, I guess hearing a 30 year old James Taylor song or "Been Caught Stealing" is better than some of the show has been, lately. Or hearing the T-O-P-L-E-S-S prank calls for the 100th time.

Jack and Rod calls will never not be funny.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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Maybe they're required to have Jesse Ventura in frequently so that for once Robin's bullshit will look sane in comparison.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.

Bonzo posted:

1. Howard believes anything doctors will tell him.

Except when it comes to back pain. There's no such thing as back pain.

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Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

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Vakal posted:

And he wore the same Seal shirt as last time as well. Although I'm not sure that he ever took it off.



Holy poo poo, man. I guess he figured if he was going to ACT like a crazy paranoid old man, he may as well LOOK like one.

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