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Something about hellfire missiles, I think? I think he was being led out at some point so he kind of trailed off. I thought there was something about 9/11 conspiracy theory bullshit, but I'm not sure. I really wish Maher wasn't such an islamophobic shithead. This is like the 4th time I've seen him bitch about, "those fuken uncivilized Arabs!!!" At least this time he didn't precede it with 20 minutes of complaining about how all the racists are on the right. Actually I just wish he wasn't a neoliberal rear end in a top hat. At least that guy from PBS was good 
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BrianJ posted:Yeah it was some crazy 9/11 bullshit. Pointing out the mistreatment of women in the Middle East is a very legitimate point, but his attitude regarding Muslims in general is frustratingly intolerant. I wish I remembered what episode it was, but it was a few months ago I think, around the election, and he spent a good half of the panel blasting the Tea Party panel member for being part of a movement that has a very large racist backing (something I actually agree with), but then the very first thing he said after the panel was, "I'm not a racist, but it scares me that the number one baby name last year was Mohammed, and I don't apologize for that." I'm paraphrasing a bit, but the subject content is the same. I understand that he's basically the rich version of a GBS atheist, but come on, what the gently caress makes you think you can attack someone else for racism and then say that? I also think he's an rear end in a top hat for refusing to legitimately address Smiley when he (correctly) pointed out that gender disparity is just as alive and well in this country. Of course there is a difference in treatments between here and there, but that doesn't make America's treatment of women any less related to the conversation at hand. Sorry for the rant, Maher just bugs me so much because he's really a terrible debater and he holds some really reprehensible views. At least he wasn't the lady arguing that public sector employees give up their rights to fair wages and unionization in favor of job security because 
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This show is awful why do I keep watching it Maher calls the Quran a book full of hate, is a tremendous piece of poo poo once again, devolves into "brown people!!  " rantTea Party representatives fall back on "Collective bargaining isn't in the constitution!!!!!", say more retarded poo poo Just loving kill me now
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Mar 12, 2011 05:02
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bruckner posted:For one he referred to sam harris's book where he points out hate in every page in the koran. And much of what he said is true, Islamic terrorists want nuclear weapons, right wingers don't, Islamic terrorists want to destroy a country, and right wingers don't. Are these not facts? Hm yes a good source for information on Islam is a guy who refers to it as a, "cult of death" It's also almost as if there's a difference between conservatives and terrorists. That Adam Carolla bit was awful too, God drat. "he's a dick!!!! A dick!! What a dick!!!" His argument is literally, "Muslim terrorism is a bigger problem than Christian extremism, ergo you should shut the gently caress up about it Tavis Smiley (you dick)". I still haven't heard a cogent argument as to why Smiley arguing that our country is not a good example of sexual equality is A Bad Thing. That is all he said. He agreed that Muslim treatment of women is poor! What's the problem? Someone else said that Bill didn't really seem too into his talking points, which I don't understand. He's an adamant anti-Islam bigot and has been for quite some time. I like the show because some of the panelists can be pretty interesting, but Maher is an rear end in a top hat with reprehensible views on a ton of subjects. I don't know if he still argues the vaccine bullshit, but it was atrocious watching this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB5DLf1Qt78 I don't like Bill Frist much either but drat. Don't bother defending him, it's not worth the time or effort.
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Mar 14, 2011 03:44
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Carolla's "different perspective" is to repeatedly call someone a dick for pointing out the truth. His point about MLK day is objectively wrong, we have a long long way to go. Schools are more segregated now than the day MLK died (http://civilrightsproject.ucla.edu/...al-mlk-2009.pdf), prisons are disproportionately filled with minorities, equality is not even remotely close. Carolla's also the guy who called free lunch and welfare programs demeaning and said, " Look, if something happens to me, I'd rather my kids were raised by a heterosexual couple rather than a gay couple, all things being equal. I just believe a mom and dad is better than two dads or two moms. I don't believe this, I just know this."* "I'm all for profiling. I'm for profiling and that includes age, gender, height, race and weight. If we're looking for terrorists we'll look for one type of guy, but if we're looking for serial killers we don't look for swarthy guys." Carolla is awful. *he later says that he would pick a gay family if they were wealthier, but I'm not sure if that's any better.
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Do you really want to go down this road? I've was pretty loving destitute at times growing up. Things have changed pretty drastically for my family, but that doesn't make me or any of my relatives uniquely qualified to be a misogynist or a racist. Here's a choice Carolla interview: Carolla: Well, guys are better at mechanical stuff and women are better at emotional stuff. Wouldn’t you say that’s a universal truth? Interviewer: I don’t think so. Carolla: Well, who builds every bridge and every skyscraper? Guys are better at mechanics and girls are better at emotions. How can you argue with what is? Interviewer: “What is” what? Carolla: Well, who built the Chunnel in France? I’m guessing it was males. Interviewer: Of course it was males. Men make up, like, 80 percent of engineers. Carolla: Because that’s what we’re better at. If women built the bridges or were meant to build the bridges, then they would have done it. http://www.newsweek.com/2010/11/02/adam-carolla-confessions-of-an-angry-white-man.html How can you seriously defend this guy? ts12 fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Mar 21, 2011 |
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Mar 18, 2011 15:27
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It's not meant to be a one up at all, nor am I particularly proud of it, my point is just that defending any of his opinions because he was once poor is dumb as hell. I'm not sure how anything he said in that interview isn't "completely wrong" either. Do you honestly believe that women don't design bridges because they're just too emotional? Do you seriously believe that men are just better at concrete thinking than women? If I'm missing something here please clue me in, because that interview isn't appropriate in any context and he isn't being taken out of context at all. e: just saying you aren't a sexist doesn't mean anything. I have a lot of black friends, but ts12 fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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Mar 18, 2011 18:08
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You don't get how he's racist or bigoted? Seriously? What the gently caress he outright says in that interview that women just aren't as good at engineering as men because they're women. I understand enjoying bluntness in a pundit/radio host/whatever, but being concise and blunt about something doesn't make it any less reprehensible. quote:Also this hardcore anti-racism is borderline racist IMO This is a joke, right? Like you don't actually believe that being hardline against racism makes you racist, do you? Also, the real reason you can't make blanket negative conclusions about a race because race doesn't exist on a genetic level. The differences that caused the inequality to start? What the hell? Yeah dude, white people so it like this and black people do it like this so that's where the problems came from. quote:Also yes you are completely misinterpreting his point but who cares Ok, enlighten me. What does he actually mean when he says that women just aren't as good at math things like men are?
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Mar 18, 2011 18:45
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God drat I knew you would jump all over me using the word math instead of engineering. Give me a break, you get the idea and you're just being pedantic for no reason. I'm not really sure where you draw the conclusion of NOONE IS DIFFERENT EVER from "race is not a genetic reality", but uhhh yeah there are differences between people, they just don't derive from your skin color, sorry. e: also please answer the question I've already asked twice. If he doesn't mean women are just naturally worse at engineering, what does he mean?
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Mar 18, 2011 19:39
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Tweak posted:I'm being pedantic? He's saying in a hole where a team of men are racing a team of women to dig under the English Channel, the men would probably finish first. If a baby is crying a woman is probably going to have an easier time consoling the baby over a man. You've changed his angle 3 times since posting one random interview but I'm being pedantic. I've had the same stance from the beginning. He claims that women just aren't as naturally good at engineering (and a couple of other applications of concrete thinking, he mentions bomb defusal as a general metaphor for this), and that's downright stupid. Please show me where I changed my angle on this. By the way, engineering and construction are two different fields (just like math and engineering  ). While he is obviously referring to the construction aspect as well, it's pretty clear he means the design too.Dudebro posted:I don't know, that's such a complicated question. It just is? Have you ever walked into a university engineering class? How few girls are in there? It just is? Seriously? How about thousands of years of patriarchal society and the norms that exist as a result? Admittedly you are touching on societal pressures, which are really are there is to it. There is nothing at all genetic about the lack of women in engineering. Tweak posted:I'd answer but I can't judge. We're all the exact same after all. Ah yes finally I know what I was trying to say. Thank you e: irq is right sorry dudebro, I just find the whole thing really frustrating. Sorry for being a dick ts12 fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Mar 18, 2011 |
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Mar 18, 2011 20:36
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Riptor posted:The panel's reaction to the Danny Glover joke was absurdly stupid That was pretty embarrassing. It wasn't side splittingly hilarious or anything, but how did every one of them miss the reference? Anyway, I thought the episode itself was probably the worst I've seen this season. Belzer didn't quite dominate the panel as much as I expected him to, but God drat he sure got his terrible opinions out. Radiating the water THOUSANDS OF PERCENT and so on. I can't imagine how the energy guy felt while listening to some of that. I didn't think the entire thing was like offensively bad or anything (although the Israeli ambassador was pretty terrible), it was just boring as hell. The woman who came on near the end with the really tired marriage stuff (If republicans really hated gays they'd let them get married!!!!!) was so dull that I ended up just shutting it off. I would like to see the energy guy back on another panel where he could get more than a word in edgewise and spend time playing a role other than teacher though.
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ApexAftermath posted:
"Ok I get that they're not allowed to go to school but that's not in America so who cares" - Bill Maher 2011 I laughed pretty hard at the Republican dude harping on the DC school district issue (which, by the way, is more bullshit "privatize everything" legislation in place of real systemic fixes) as proof that the Republicans really do care! The director at the end was pretty bad as well, just for being relatively incoherent and boring.
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tags2k posted:I'm not trying to be that guy but it's "segue", not the brand name of the electric wheelchair device that doesn't have a seat. Pretty sure Segway did that on purpose to confuse people, the bastards! god bless america [sic] is one of the worst movies ever made. It's like Boondock Saints, GBS, the PYF bachelor thread, and PYF Irritating Things all took sentient form and 9 months after their Mt. Dew fueled orgy, god bless america popped out. That being said, if you like watching 20 minute dramatic readings of Two Worlds or ZanderZ posts interspersed with brief periods of random violence against babies who cry too much (death by 12 gauge), coworkers who bother to engage with each other (death by handgun), teenagers who go to matinee viewings of My Lai documentaries to talk and throw popcorn (death by .45), and mentally challenged (seriously) people that reality shows make fun of (death by AK), it's definitely the movie for you. God drat that movie was embarrassing to even watch
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