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Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


God gently caress I hate this struggle.

I'm a real shorty (5'2) and I feel like I've struggled so hard to find a chair that works for me. I've tried a

1) Steelcase Series 1, and that was a massive improvement over the generic office chair I had, when I first started dealing with/trying to solve some ergonomic problems, but now I find that the cushion just isn't supporting me right or something, and I have days/nights where I end up pretty sore on one side of my rear end, as well the arm rests are a bit fiddly, maybe don't adjust low enough, and have aren't the most durable because they've developed "divets" over the years I've had it.

2) Aeron B, which I remember having one working for me at work for awhile, but just doesn't quite seem right for my home setup - I feel like I ended up with less butt pain then the steelcase, but the arm rests feel like they're a bit too wide, and just feel tricky to get to the right height, and I feel like I've ended up with some collarbone pains sometimes after using it.

3) Embody, which I really want to like, but I don't know if I quite like it, and have a narrowing window to return. The arm rests feel really nice and solid, and the flat design seems much nicer then the curved Aeron arm rests, and while locked into height notches, it feels less fiddly to adjust the embody once again. That said, the seat feels weird and almost "uneven" at times, almost like I'm not in it right, and I've been struggling to find a back adjustment setting that feels right, with it occasionally feel like getting particular pressure in my lower back just above my butt, or just generally feel like im making too much "contact" in that area?

I put down 2100$ (Canadian) before finding out there was an option for a lower cylinder (allows for 1 inch of lower adjustment) and I'm looking at another 350$ to swap for a lower adjust version, but I feel like if I want to stick with the chair, that'd be a smart thing to shell out for because my feet aren't as flat as they should be and I think that might be contributing to some comfort issues, and I want to rely on a foot rest as little as possible.

The big risk is if I go for a swap with the lower adjustment, the dealer I bought through can't offer a trial/return like they did for the standard one, and I'll be potentially "locked in" with a 2400$ chair I'm not happy with. I could return the embody and see about getting a lower adjust one through HM where I might be able to take advantage of a 30 day return period but 1) the lower adjust doesn't appear to be directly offered on their store page, and I think you need to contact their support to get it, and I don't know if that may still come with a "special order no return" qualification and 2) when I ordered through my dealer I got 20% off, so rebuying through HM with the lower adjust would probably be a significant jump in price unless I want to wait however long until they do a sale of similar caliber.

But so many people suggest the embody takes getting used to, and so many seem really happy with it, including some comments from people of my height saying they were happy with theirs / preferred it over the Aeron.

There's certainly other chairs I could try, but it's a bit of a frustrating process since just sitting in a chair in a show room has not felt like a good gauge of if it's going to work for my actual setup or not.

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Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Zarin posted:

Agreed with the poster above me.

With the Embody: did you confirm that the seat pan was adjusted to your preference?

Were you using the tilt-lock on the Embody, or did you fiddle with the back tensioner to dial it in for your needs, no tilt lock required?


For the Aeron: I'm thinking the Aeron A would have been the model best suited for your needs, based on your review of the B. However, I didn't look up the specs on Aeron sizing so this is just a guesstimate.

I've given a footrest a shot but it feels tricky - it's more then an inch tall so depending how I place my feet on it, it feels like it might be bringing my legs up too much, and causing more of my weight to be placed into the chair, maybe?

the seat pan is currently as shallow as it can go - I don't think I can push it out too much without increasing contact with the back of my leg - depending how I place my feet, I get 2-3 fingers of space, which from what I understand is about right?

I haven't fussed with the tilt tension/lock too much - there's both tilt tension (how easy it is to recline) and the backfit thing that makes the chair back more vertical / fit your back differently that I've been unsure if i have dialed in right? I've got the tilt tensions so it's fairly firm with the lock off - the suggestion I saw was tight enough that you don't need a ton of effort to lean back, but also not so little that you aren't going back unintentionally?

and yeah, I've seen some suggest an Aeron A for my height, by HM's chart I think I fit in the "A or B" range, so I find myself unsure how much I want to try to chase down an A should it only be a marginal improvement?

TenementFunster posted:

can you just get shorter casters? would be way easier
Something like that is an option? It doesnt seem like the default casters for the embody are particularly big - maybe like 2in tall? Am I really going to be able to shave off an inch or more from the casters in a way that wont be problematic?

I am unfortunately in a position where I either gotta return the chair in the next few days or decide to keep it. I'm honestly leaning heavily towards just returning it since it's a lot of money to be out should I find myself just unable to find the sweet spot with it.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Man, I hate this. I'm looking for alternates to the embody to try, but it feels like either chairs seem like they might not have a low enough adjust, (on average, chairs seem to bottom out at 16in) or the arm rests don't go low enough. Like the Steelcase Series 1 that I've been using has an arm-to-seat of 6.5in and that almost feels like it might be a touch too high, but the Leap, which has a lower seat adjustment then the Series 1, has a larger arm-to-seat of 7in. Why do I feel like I got mutant freak proportions or something?

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

It's so silly but like.....would some high bottom shoes help? A 1-inch high mat on your floor? If you were 4'6" or something you'd be out of luck but one inch feels very fixable. I certainly wouldn't blame you for returning the thing, it's too expensive to keep if you don't like how you feel sitting on it, but I do feel like there has to be some sort of workaround.

Like, I'm not certain the 1 inch difference is the sole issue - I'm just speculating on what could be causing some of my issues, namely some problems with the seat, since I've seen a few comments mention that you gotta get the chair low, maybe lower then you'd expect/lower then other chairs, but I also don't know if their discomforts were the same as mine.

and maybe it very much was a situation where I needed to ride it out a bit more, but very much was of the mind if I was going to go 2100$ Canadian deep on a chair, I might as well be springing a bit more for one that adjusts lower, but with no ability to return/bail on it, it was just too risky.

Humorously, the dealer that sold it to me even suggested maybe just doing what I had in mind - see about ordering the lower adjust version from HM directly since I should be able to properly trial and return it to them if it still doesn't work out.

TenementFunster posted:

but for realsies the only tricky part of the embody, aside from coming up with ~$1500 for a desk chair, is getting it dialed in. does your local HM dealer not do ergonomic fittings? they’d be stupid not to, considering what a big role it plays in making the sale on a ~$1500 desk chair

Sadly they didn't seem to, but yeah, you really think they'd want something like that, but from chatting with the guy he seemed a little miffed with HM since they gave him a pain with just trying to get a price on a lower adjust version for me. I think, like most other companies these days HM is hoping to drive direct sales.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


I really wish the embody "clicked" for me when I had it. Something about the cushion just didn't really feel right, and felt like there was just too much money to risk sticking it out, doubly so when there's a lower adjust version that might be preferable.

At this point I'd be very happy to drop that kind of money to have a chair I'm consistently comfortable in.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


fat bossy gerbil posted:

Do we like the steelcase series 1 around here?

It's ok.

It was a good improvement over my generic staples/office store chair that didn't really adjust to fit me well, but it leaves me kinda sore in the arse some days - ive had it for a fair amount of years now so maybe the cushion has just lost a bit of life.

It might be an okay pick if you want something cheaper that you're only going to sit in for a few hours a day, but it sounds like you could do better, particularly if you plan to sit for most of the day.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Gonna throw it out again, but any real shorties out there (like 5'1 to 5'3) find a chair that works for them? Dunno if I also got some secondary things working against me (torso/leg length) but feel like I'm struggling something that feels right.

Didn't really feel like the Embody was right for me. I haven't tried a leap yet, but it doesn't look like its arm rests go low enough - which seems odd given how well adjustable the rest of the chair is, particularly the seat adjusting lower then most other chairs.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Zarin posted:

Actually now that I think about it - and this is almost but not really but also maybe kinda a real recommendation - I can't help but wonder how the Cosm would do for you.

It's definitely a chair that has a bit too much personality for its own good, and is pretty polarizing because of it.

BUT! I feel like I have to run the piston closer to the top than I do most other chairs, so that makes me wonder if it ends up sitting lower than other chairs. And at least to me, it feels like the adjustable armrests (optional, but highly recommended) have quite a bit of travel to 'em.

What really made me mention it was that it hit me that my one BIGGEST complaint about the chair is that the seat pan feels extremely shallow. Like, I love the chair, but drat. However, that sounds like something that might be a bonus for you.

Let me know if you want me to try and take some measurements on mine or something.

Cheers - the website says the seat minimum is 14⅞in - which puts it about an inch lower then the default embody. (and lower the most chairs) Might have to see about trying one out.

Inept posted:

Did you ever try out an Aeron A? Its dimensions seem to fit what you're looking for
Still need to try one I suppose. I ended up with a B from a reseller because I had a B at work that was working there, but the B doesn't feel quite right for my home setup, and so now I feel a bit silly/reluctant to seek out an A?

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


dreesemonkey posted:

Chair came. Initial impressions are good, I do not hate it. Immediately noticed the support for my lower back, which I think I needed most.

Did you get it from HM directly? That seemed fast - maybe it's cause I'm in Canada but the website lists multiple week lead times, and my experience ordering through a local dealer was about accurate to that.

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Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


VelociBacon posted:

Any recommendations for someone who is super short? Family member is 4'9", works from home, is constantly having to choose between having their feet on the floor or their arms level with the desk. Have already put in a sit/stand desk. Is this a situation where a chair with the leg/footrests might be a good idea?

5'2 here and been kinda struggling with similar.

Could try an Aeron A - they go as low as 14.4in for the seat height. I haven't used it personally, but I've got an aeron b which also goes pretty low (14.8 apparently) but the arm rests might be too wide spaced or something because somethin just doesn't feel quite right with for me, so I'm hesitating a bit on personally seeking out an A in case the arm rest is more of a style/shape issue, but it was definitely easier to get my feet flat.

Feels like most chairs' lower adjustment is around 16in, and I've been having a hard time finding other options with low seats but still have good other adjustments - SteelCase's Leap V2 lets the seat go down to 15.5, but then the arm rests don't seem like they adjust all that low, particularly compared to HM's Embody or Aeron.

Speaking of, the Embody has a lower adjustment cylinder that brings it down to 15in, but that needs to be special ordered, and I found with the regular 16in cylinder that it somehow felt "higher" then my Steelcase Series 1 which has a lowest adjust of 16.5.

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