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At this point, rooting for the Space Chinese is even more unconscionable than it already was! Rest in Peace, Engine Joe. But at least Red_Mage has... the Techies?  (As a very, very old and outdated aside: Robot Jox predates G Gundam. Just felt the need to point that out.)
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For what it's worth, the Wolf's Dragoons don't exist in PTN's LP alternate Clan Invasion timeline.
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Feb 28, 2011 17:29
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Why must Goons of the Inner Sphere squabble and fight amongst each other? Even Lt. Kearney Barnes has fallen to the Don't ask me how they'll get there before they reach Terra. The Clans could theoretically mass-misjump in force. Tech and skill advantages aside, they do seem to be logistically thickskulled.
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Mar 10, 2011 06:56
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Same way any 'Mech gets passed down from parent to pilot. Just don't lose your granddaddy's Jenner unless you enjoy the thought of being a broke rear end chump.
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Mar 13, 2011 08:27
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Despite the fact I support our brave and unwashed Goonlance pilots on principle, that made me cackle out loud. Now I can't wait to see them in action.
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Mar 28, 2011 00:42
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Picked up the free MW4:Mercs and the Thunderchild makes for a vicious, vicious Solaris brawler right off the market, no adjustments necessary. Then again, the game is different enough from tabletop that you can pretty much get away with taking any 'Mech with the right hardpoints and turning it into a gigantic oversized (or miniature, with the Urbanmech) Hunchback and still escape most fights with nary a repair bill to fear. In singleplayer anyway. This game has kind of skewed my perception of the actual tabletop mechs into something strange and bewildering to anyone who knows better.
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Apr 10, 2011 08:34
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TildeATH posted:You're just saying that because your own avatar most resembles half a pair of mech cajones. Says the goon whose avatar has the other half.
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Apr 11, 2011 02:31
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Is this the day the <REDACTED> joke dies? Not with a bang, but a whimper? (Yes, even a nitwit like me figured out what you guys meant a while back. I just had no clue they were a big deal. They always struck me as a bit out-of-place as opposed to death in a can. I want to see them in action!)
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Apr 19, 2011 01:33
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Forgot to vote, too. A! Because I want to see what's in store. And don't be ashamed, Shadow. Some among us were too busy laughing at Conmonbine to notice the error.
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Apr 19, 2011 01:41
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D! Umlauts and terr'ism! A little down the line, we can see our boys playing Far Clantry too. But for now, umlaut. Now, something that's been bugging me. How Awesome is the Awesome, anyway? Highly specialized machines do better than the usual IS "let's install an rear end-facing laser" nonsense, right? And you don't get much more specialized than three shots of the "I'll make you watch you wet yourself" gun. EDIT: Balls almighty, a new page. Welp, better provide something. I hope this isn't a repost. Picked it up off of the some imageboard somewhere a while back.  (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Apr 21, 2011 03:41
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MJ12 posted:Man, we have an opportunity to take a fresh ComGuard out to fight the Clans, to get revenge for the Second Donegal, and people are voting to go right off and play terrorist with beaten-up light mechs and infantry? Yes, but it's the mysterious option. It's like PTN's practically prodding us to pick it. And I'm not one to deny the GM his Subtle Nudging Wink Wink Nod. 
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Apr 21, 2011 05:31
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landcollector posted:Heh, I am almost afraid to ask, but is indoor plumbing lostech as well? It's worse than you think. In the Periphery, outhouses were LosTech until the Helm Memory Core incident occured. And in this timeline, it never will.
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Apr 24, 2011 22:12
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Der Waffle Mous posted:The Hollander, Blitzkrieg and Legionnaire are some of my least favorite designs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M50_Ontos Wikipedia claims it was more popular than expected, due in no small part to the utility of having a lightweight vehicle capable of going where tanks couldn't and yet still capable of bringing a lot of nasty firepower to bear. All six shots' worth of nasty. If the USMC could get away with sticking 6 one-shot bazookas onto a turret and calling it a day I don't see what's stopping the AFFS from putting all their eggs in a single RAC basket. Edit: Also, this is the only tank I know of that's capable of pulling off an Alpha Strike. Runa fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Apr 25, 2011 |
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Apr 25, 2011 03:28
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The Merry Marauder posted:Ontoi carried reloads, though. Recoilless rifles aren't one-shot. Technically true, but the crew had step outside and reload each rifle by hand! And while the BT Ontos might be drat a shame, silly design never stopped the real-life Ontos. I wonder if PTN has the rules for it on hand? As to another topic, I do kind of prefer BT's ablative armor system over a more realistic threshold system like 40K's. Soft counters become valid and just a little less emphasis is placed on troop selection while a little more weight is placed on the decisions you make with what you have on the field. Which is nice.
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Apr 25, 2011 06:09
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Xmas Future posted:So instead of putting it behind some armour, you prefer the ammo completely unprotected? It'd still blow the mech in half if it exploded. If only we could somehow weaponize ammunition loads and skip the "shooting" middleman. Like some sort of fuel-air ammunition bomb. I just stumbled onto the description of another Clan invention, didn't I?
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Apr 27, 2011 03:51
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Wait, wait. Comstar's "economy class" data transmission network is the jumpship pony express? That is stupid. And kind of awesome.
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Apr 28, 2011 03:44
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It's true. Helicopters are technically the most common form of VTOL. It's just that nobody every thinks of helicopters as VTOLs since helicopters take it for granted while stuff like the Harrier is sufficiently "weird" enough that you can't call it an ordinary plane nor can you call it a helicopter. So you call it a VTOL and then people just assume that only weird stuff like that gets the moniker when in fact all aircraft capable of that form of flight is considered to fall under the classification. Wait, no, I'm being stupid and roundabout with it. Okay. Look at it this way. Helicopters are VTOLs, but we don't go calling them VTOLs because they already have a more convenient and well-known name--"helicopters." That doesn't mean they're not VTOLs, though.
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May 1, 2011 05:53
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I think some folks mentioned Urbanmechs also had Jumpjets. So in dense urban conditions, where range is less important than LOS, they would be a cheap way to really, really annoy your opponent. About as annoying as a mobile, hopping AC/10 could be, anyway.
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May 2, 2011 19:37
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Mystery choices are always the best! Just you wait. Next mission, everyone pilots a Charger.
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May 7, 2011 07:25
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I have seen art of the Annihilator. Is it even physically capable of punching? I'm of a mind to write it off as "actually he was just waggling his arms trying to aim" while the POV characters were too huge a collective rear end in a top hat to give even the Wolf's Dragoons the benefit of the doubt.
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May 10, 2011 08:55
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I've checked the wiki and apparently it's not! The Gauss rifles themselves, however, do explode violently when critically hit. Being unfamiliar with tabletop, I have no idea whether it's better to have a weapon explode or a ton of ammo. Considering the horror stories in the thread, though, I'm willing to bet the ammo's more catastrophic. Edit: Beaten to the punch. Runa fucked around with this message at 10:26 on May 10, 2011 |
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May 10, 2011 10:18
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Those Clanner jerks. It's like if you're interested mainly in the Inner Sphere stuff they're practically designed to piss you right off. Okay, that's it, next mission everyone vote ComGuards. They're still bound to have some juice left in'em, right? They're not dying in droves and on their last legs but for the grace of Goonluck, right?
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May 13, 2011 05:05
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BANZAI! What would happen if, by some strange twist of luck, that Javelin managed to get close to a Locust and then blown up by a Home Guard unit, taking the Locust out in the process? Would that be a good or a bad thing? For the Home Guard, I mean. Dying for the mission and embarrassing LOKI without unwanted collateral damage would be a positive outcome in any other situation.
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May 15, 2011 09:01
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drat, the train is still standing. C'mon TildeATH, there's just two million-ish to go--give us a Hail Mary play.
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May 18, 2011 05:37
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(Indirectly) Owned by Duke Lestrade you say? That explains a lot about the objectives and hopefully a sign that succeeding in the mission won't gently caress over the relatively-less-bad guys. Hopefully. I mean, while I hear PTN has quite the devious reputation, he's been keeping to determining the outcome of the narrative based on the success of the players given the mission objectives. So a successful mission result would mean good things happen, an unsuccessful mission involves more getting socked by a Clan Omnimech (EDIT: Struck through because I am fairly certain it wasn't painted red, that was just my impression of the events.)
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May 19, 2011 02:36
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Heimdall: Valkyrie! Home Guard: Von Luckner! LOKI: The Locust that was smart enough to run away.
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May 20, 2011 06:40
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A Because I don't know who this Dr. Banzai is or what's in the Helm memory core but I can't resist a name like BANZAI. EDIT: I mean in the game! I don't know what crazy nonsense he's known for as far as technological business is concerned. Runa fucked around with this message at 09:38 on May 22, 2011 |
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I wonder if this Politische Abstimmung will have any impact on the next scenario vote, too. While it's probably a very good idea to stop lollygagging and finally grant the ComGuard some of our
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May 22, 2011 09:33
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LosTech pornography in an age without easy access to the internet? That's a lot more valuable than you realize.
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May 23, 2011 01:21
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ComGuard, naturally. Though I'm curious as to what the joke choice would entail and wouldn't mind hearing your scrounged up plans for it once the vote's tallied.
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May 24, 2011 05:16
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Upon reading the Mystery Box special rule it's apparent there was only ever one real choice.
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May 25, 2011 07:01
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the JJ posted:These ponies need more head mounted PPC's.* I'm pretty sure the Mad Cat has a bunch of fake cockpit panels all over the torso to camouflage where the real "head" of the 'Mech is, so that sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
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May 25, 2011 12:12
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Looking at the OP and re-reading the first paragraph of the "Rewriting it?" section more carefully, it appears this was no secret or sudden surprise. It looks like merely plot-wrangling the Clan Invasion down isn't an option this time. If we can't rely on plot and Clan cultural idiosyncrasy to defeat them, we can at least rely upon sheer raw industrial and numerical superiority. If the Children of Kerensky want revenge, they will have it served scalding hot with booby-trapped silverware. Also we poured a quart of bile in their revenge-soup. Ever tasted culinary bile? It's horrific. And terribly ethnic. (Why yes, I do seem to be very pro-IS don't I?) EDIT: Just for curiosity, if it were a Guillotine IIC, a Phoenix Hawk IIC, and a Grasshopper (IIC custom, anything goes), would this put weight estimates at about what the OpFor's rough tonnage was? I'm wondering if there's room for <REDACTED> Runa fucked around with this message at 09:50 on May 30, 2011 |
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May 30, 2011 09:15
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From earlier discussions, the early IS all sounded terribly feudal, where conflicts between Successor States were less battles between whole nations and more a dynastic kerfluffle minus the any claims to lineage legitimacy. As in, don't cause a ruckus and keep paying taxes and they'll just let you carry on. I would assume things were more like this in border systems, though. National identity and loyalty would be pretty strong in Luthien, Tharkad, or New Avalon I gather. On the other hand, most Clans probably wouldn't have that understanding I think and might treat their conquests a bit differently than the civilians were expecting, i.e. poorly. Speaking of Clans and resistance movements, this sounds a bit like the Turtle Bay issue. As in, sometimes when Clans really out of their ritualized element get faced with the realities of guerrilla warfare one might overreact and bombard a major population center with Naval Capital Gauss weapons, which is basically just nukes minus the fallout. And then the Inner Sphere gets mad and annihilates that Clan, fun times.
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Out of curiosity I was reading up on Stefan Amaris on the Sarna wiki since apparently he had followers and a family and such, as brutal crackpot dictators go, and couldn't find much info about House Amaris beyond the fact that they tended to consist mostly of brutal crackpot dictators. Also, Stefan Amaris looks really, really obviously painfully evil. Cartoonishly so. I'm guessing the Star League backstory doesn't quite share the same interesting political shenanigans the Successor States are known for.
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May 31, 2011 06:59
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It's really eerie seeing Amaris right next to Zaodai's avatar like that.
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May 31, 2011 09:06
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The Casualty posted:How the gently caress is printed and bound sheets of paper loving Lostech Confounded e-book readers!  e;fb
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Jun 1, 2011 05:56
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I would imagine simple infrastructure or economy might also play a part. Just because it's well within our technological means to manufacture something doesn't mean that you can actually find someone who manufactures it. On that note, aren't the Battletech VR pods basically Lostech? Precious, hoarded Lostech. Though yeah, the idea of books going the way of the rotary telephone is a little silly.
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Jun 1, 2011 06:20
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"BAM! Why are you <REDACTED>ing yourself?" But seriously, how the hell does a Champion punch itself in the face? It's about as waddly as an Annihilator or a Warhawk.
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Dislodging Swarmers: Stop, drop, and roll? Would that require a successful piloting check? A failed piloting check?
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