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Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

ShortyMR.CAT posted:

Lil Jon is a dj?! I knew he did more then yeah YEAH and WHAT all day, but I had no idea he was an actual dj. Interesting!

Even funnier-I am friends with T-Pain's DJ, who informed me that Mr. T-Pain himself is apparently a REALLY good DJ.

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Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

ShortyMR.CAT posted:

What's up with all these people who you think have one shot gimmicks and you wonder how did they get so famous!?

Maybe if I yelled random words while autotuned i'd be extra famous?




Anyway real question! In the last thread I was asking about laptops. I was avoiding Apple because of their hefty price tags on laptops. So I found some reasonable ones, but they had AMD Turion II processors. I was told to avoid them due to problems with certain software. The other recommendation was intel. My question is what kind of intel processor? There is so many to choose from! And I'm kinda dumb at this.



Any help welcome.

AMD processors, while cheap and speedy, have issues with most DVS systems (Serato&Traktor especially). Really it is a crapshoot-some people never have an issue, others do. As for Intel, really any Core 2 Duo 2.1ghz and above will do. The Core i3's are quite powerful for not much cash as well.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

HotCanadianChick posted:

I'm really goddamn tired of the rumour that the SL-1200 is going out of production. They only discontinued the Japanese only SL-1200 MK6, the MK2 and MK5 are still in production: http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Audio/Technics-DJ/Technics-Analog-Turntables/model.SL-1200MK5

(Panasonic released a press report in Japan announcing the cessation of selling it in Japan, and dipshit websites repasted the English translation of it assuming it meant all models and markets)

Please stop reinforcing this misinformation, it's the reason why everyplace is sold out of them right now and the people that do have them are asking stupid prices north of $900 for them (and why people are asking new unit prices for used ones).

I can tell you first hand, 100% verifiable that they are all discontinued. They are gone. I have had conversations with the buyers of leading retail chains who had to do their final buy in, as recently as NAMM. They are dead. For the love of god, will people just accept this?

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

THAT drat DOG posted:

How come I never see anyone use SL DZs? They look pretty cool, and I'm seeing a lot of them on eBay. Is there something wrong or bad about them?

E: Just read your review on them, prof bx. I must admit that I bought one. :shobon:

Haha, that was like....my 3rd review ever? I stand by what I said, just not how poor my writing was back then. Some of the issues were at least fixed in later firmware which is nice, but I still feel there are better units for the money, and the unit is a bit dated now.

Professorbx fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Feb 10, 2011

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

OG KUSH BLUNTS posted:

So in a nutshell, Traktor 2 borrowed a whole bunch of the mainstay features from Serato. Looking at the most recent Serato survey (its online at their site now), looks like they plan to do NI the same courtesy.

ProffesorBX, can you explain if there's a real difference between the 1Khz CV from Serato vs the 2Khz from Traktor?

It is sort of interesting-there is, but each actually has their advantages. For Traktor, any pitch bends, slow scratches or other fine movements are going to be more accurate due to the higher resolution. That said, Serato actually has an advantage in high-speed decoding, which can become problematic with too-high a frequency. Also, in theory, the 1k timecode is a little bit less problematic when the wax is worn down.

The moral of the story-there is no "right" way. I personally use Traktor, but it is for the feature set more than the timecode control.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Sjoewe posted:

I used to do (motion)graphic design, so I still keep to the philosophy: the more pixels the better. Especially when using Traktor on the 4 deck mode, the normal 1440x900 resolution is just enough, but an extra 100 pixels would mean you could still fit (part of) your track list on screen. It isn't a must-have, but if you can afford it, it is a neat option from which you'll certainly benefit.


Slow harddrives can be a bottle neck, but i don't notice any realy problems with my current 5400rpm drive. But I do hope 200+gb SSD's get affordable in the near future, I would definitely opt for one of those in my next MBP.

To go along with this-people get hung up on screen size without taking into account resolution. Sjoewe is right on the money about pixel count. To put it into perspective, when I was using a Macbook 13", the pixel count was painful compared to my current MBP 15", but a current gen Macbook Air 13" would be good to go due to having the same resolution as my MBP 15", meaning I could fit the same amount of information on screen.

As for the hard drive, if you are using Ableton, yes, it becomes an issue, but when you are using Traktor, the songs are streaming from memory, not the drive. As such, there is little discernible difference between the two. Ram is king in this case-the more ram you have, the more you can have going on that is cached in memory. 4gb or more, period.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

THAT drat DOG posted:

Anyone have experience on the audio side of DJing? I'm looking for a pair of powered speakers, and I'm stuck between JBL EON G2, Mackie Thump TH15A, and American Audio XSP.

First off, are 15" speakers overkill for a 75-125 person crowd? I'd rather go easier on my wallet and hopefully not blow my crowds eardrums, would a 12" speaker suffice?

Next one, a single JBL speaker can cost as much as half my cars worth, can I get by with a Mackie speaker or even an American Audio speaker? The venue I will be playing at has JBL EON G2s but they're pretty much all blown, so I can't really see how good they sound like.

E: The venue has a subwoofer so I guess bass shouldn't be a problem.

None are GREAT, but the Eon's smoke the others by a ton. The cooling system is genius, and they just don't die. Loud as hell, and won't let you down. The Tapco's are kind of garbage, and the American Audio's use pretty cheap chip amps that will give out way before the JBL's.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

ShortyMR.CAT posted:

I got a cheapo pair of skullcandy headphones the other day from a friend and MAN! Is mixing songs so much easier now. Granted, I was never great, but at least I can drop songs in and out with out sounding TOO bad.

You know, I had some Skullcandy's for a bit-they were not great, or even that good, but I love the idea that you can go to Target now and buy a set of DJ headphones that would be actually usable if you are in an emergency pre-gig situation for not much money. Kids don't know how good they have it.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki
The funny thing about FX is that, if you are concentrating on doing the best mixing possible, often times FX can be left out completely. Every single time I go out and gig, I bring along a MIDI controller for controlling Traktor FX, and I notice that, the better the night went (and the more fun/thought put into the songs/mixing), the less I even touched the thing. Filters are a different matter-to me, they are just another EQ. That said, I think that the mark of a great DJ is one who both knows how to use FX with great results, yet can go a night with no FX used and have no one notice.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Chitin posted:

Is there any particular reason Virtual DJ doesn't seem to get a lot of respect? I've heard it criticized for stability reasons but anything else? Looking at the feature set it seems pretty robust...

Because it has the stigma of being the most cracked DJ software on the planet, and, VDJ has a habit of releasing new "Milestone" releases (5,6,7) that, while rock stable later, need way more time in the oven than they give them before release.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

AKP posted:

I currently have no gear other than my mac, what I'm trying to do is purchase the DJM-900s or the Denon x1600s then have them hooked up to my mac. I'm already planning on purchasing the Traktor X1. I just don't want to waste my money on CDJs, I'll just use my computer.

If you are just using your computer, buying a DJM or DNX1600 makes no sense, and neither does the X1. The mixer makes sense when you are doing traditional mixing WITH CDJ's or something else. Get a Traktor S4. You will save money and have experience that will carry you between the controller side AND the traditional due to the addition of jog wheels.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

AKP posted:

I'm planning on using Ableton - All of my friends tell me that learning to beatmatch is a complete bitch, Ableton can do it flawlessly.. Unless my friends are full of poo poo and exaggerating,
I have more faith in you guys knowing more than them.

If you are planning on using Ableton, then you have even less reason to get a mixer. In fact, it will seriously limit you. Get an APC40 (or, if you are ballin, a Vestax VCM600/Novation Launchpad combo) and a good interface (Focusrite Saffire Pro 14 is a good option). A mixer makes literally no sense.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

melee beats posted:

Is anyone looking for a PMC 07 Pro Anniversary? I wanna get rid of it.

I have a beat up PMC 280 too :x

How beat up?

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Crazy C posted:

Yeah I've only heard good things about the Xone series.

My Xone:02 has lasted about 5 years now, including 3 trips through the USA, a few mini tours, hundreds of shows, a couple cans of beer, a few multi-feet drops and still keeps on ticking. The Xone:22 is a stupidly good budget mixer, and the thing is, even their "cheap" mixers are built to the standard of their expensive units.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Sjoewe posted:

Then Pioneer must be absolute rubish.

Working in the industry as a designer and product manager, I can tell you-while A&H may have bad runs, no one can touch them when it comes to product durability. Everyone has bad runs-poo poo, look at Rane, they have had plenty of bad runs of TTM56's and 64's. It is the average that matters. A&H is the biz.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

oredun posted:

What? Pioneer is some of the most reliable gear money can buy. I dont know if this is some smartass comment or what you are even talking about. We are talking about 300$ dollar mixers not xone92s.

These xones have broken in like 2 weeks after being purchased. If you scour the web youll see that not only do the 22s fail at an amazing rate, the 42s fail quite often as well. They cheapass chinese poo poo, and yeah, agree it may just be working the kinks out for the first production, but i for one will not pay to be a beta tester. A&H has lost me as a customer for the DJ equipment thats for sure (their real mixers are great tho), and i couldnt in good faith recommend them to anyone.


dude, it costs $300. Thats as cheap as DJ mixers get. Just make sure you buy the stupid warranty, i would bet your mixer will break before it runs out.


Do you ever actually check to see if its right? I used it and not only did you ruin all my ID3 tags, well over half the keys were completely wrong.

Pioneers fail a stupid amount, way more than I have ever seen A&H mixers fail. Cracking them open, the build quality is nothing special as well, and Pioneer still can't figure out how to do a loving replaceable fuse power supply.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Crazy C posted:

Is this for a Xone 2?

It's about $550 equivalent where I live. Which for us is the monthly paycheck for an administration job as sad as it sounds. I'm a poor dirty bastard :smith:

Xone 22. It is the cheaper 2 channel that lacks the curve on all 3 faders, but has a filter.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

OG KUSH BLUNTS posted:

:siren: Traktor 2 owns :siren:

I hope this lights a fire under the rear end of the workers at Serato, in meantime though I'm gonna pick up Traktor Scratch Pro 2.

So far, it is loving nuts. The ONLY thing I don't like is that the sample player has no phase control-Traktor gets the sample tempo/sync right 90% of the time (EVEN ON HIP HOP NOW!!! :dance: ) but if the phase is off, you can't really correct it very easily unless you try triggering it again or mess with the pitch bend of your master track. As well, would have liked the ability to break down samples within the player. Then again, for a first sampler they kind of nailed the basics and then some.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

GbrushTwood posted:

I figured I should post this here, here's a video 1080p (excuse the lovely audio, but there are a few other clips of the show in the same channel) of a show I did last night with Kill The Noise in SF.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ev8Jo7CKPU

How is the tour going btw? Digging the Uberstand? You still need to grab those damned headphones!

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

GbrushTwood posted:

Thanks man! Yeah its been serving me well, I need to hit you up when I get back so we can hang out :) Did you find out if you are SF bound yet?

Nope, but another time in the future maybe. I have the new piece to show you when you get back btw, you will see it in a few days....

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

oredun posted:

traktor blows, i dont even see how you could mix with four decks unless you used sync without the waveforms overlapping. i just think thats crazy how stupid the beatmatching is with traktor, its either straight up like vinyl, look at the little meter which is never right, or hit sync.

if you like serato just get the sl4. i know i am.

Actually the phase meter is really handy. The thing is, yea, it is off sometimes, but if it is it is always off by an easily discernible percentage (1/4, 1/8, etc). Besides, really, if you need a waveform or phase meter to mix....dude, what the hell are you doing with turntables anyway?

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki
Just wanted to show off the new product we (Stanton) have been working on....

http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2011/04/05/stanton-launches-innovative-scs4dj-fully-integrated-dj-mixstation-at-musikmesse-2011/

Just wanted to talk about it, as I have been living, breathing, eating and dreaming of this unit for the last year and a half. We (Stanton) just announced for MusikMesse a new all-in-one media player/DJ station/MIDI controller, the SCS.4DJ. It has all the capabilities that people expect from DJ software (sync, loops, fx, etc), plus a big screen and touch sensitive platters.

Anyway, if goon DJ's want to ask any questions, I would love to answer as I feel like a proud papa. :cool:

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

qirex posted:

Leaving out the laptop is an interesting idea. I can see this getting some traction in the mobile market thanks to the phone import. Does it take pre-gridded tracks? Will it also be usable as a generic Traktor controller? Can you give any pricing hints?

Also if you can say will there be any other SCS updates? I still think the SCS3 is dying for an audio interface module and a USB SCS1d that could do Traktor's high-res jog code would be neat.

Thanks for the questions! So, in order....

1.It does all the beat-gridding on the unit. The beat-gridding is a bit different than most software, as it is done with both BPM as well as a certain amount of elasticity for allowing for beats that are off the BPM grid. My drive right now has about 3,300 songs analyzed on it and it has been accurate for most everything (save for having to do the "Edit BPM" function and having to select half/double for some hip hop). The waveform is zoomable and multi-colored based on frequency as well, and there are lines to show you your beat grid to line everything up on your stacked waveforms.

2.Yup, it will work as a standard MIDI controller as well, and a really good one at that. The wheels are insane-they throw have close to double the resolution of about any other controller on the market. I'm actually mapping out a TSI as we speak.

3.Sadly I have to wait for the good folks in marketing to announce price, but it is REALLY nice.

4.Can't speak on future SCS updates, sorry. :( We are really trying to push the market though, and have worked like hell on things like the new SCS.1 firmware which makes the platters behave like a dream (there is a video of me somewhere on Youtube scratching on a Str8.150 and an SCS.1d side by side with it....)

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

LouietheCuban posted:

i really dig the idea of leaving the laptop out, because they can tend to cause problems. the only problem with stanton is their industrial design, i really wish they didn't make their products look like toys :(

what is it made of anyway?

It is made of high-quality ABS plastic, and should hold up the same or better than our SCS.3 units. I've been throwing my unit around in and out of my car for a few months now and it has held up like a champ.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

LouietheCuban posted:

well this is definitely something i'll look out for. thanks for giving us a sneak peak!

im actually really interested in your job. how did you windup working for stanton? im studying music tech in college (UMBC) and making/designing pro audio hardware/software is really what i want to do when i get out of school. any tips?

How I ended up working for Stanton is a strange thing. The really short version is that I got the job ten years ago to take part of the place that DJ Focus had along with a friend of mine. I left a while after and then was there for the founding of Skratchworx, which led to product management for Gemini/Cortex (the Dmix stuff mostly) and freelance design work. A friend left Stanton a while back and chose to come back to Stanton, as it sort of felt like coming home.

As for how to get into the industry, everyone is different. The thing about the industry is that there is no "product management" degree, as we all got into it in different ways. The typical way I see people get into it though is get a position in tech support, marketing (any level) or product specialist and do design work on the side. Shout about it to anyone who will hear you. Occasionally you see Jr. Product Management positions as well, and those are about the most direct shot into product development.

If you have any questions, shoot me an email- johnnydirtbag at gmail dot com.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

AKP posted:

Quick question:

I'm purchasing the Traktor S4 next week, however I only have enough to cover the S4 + Warranty - I won't be able to purchase studio headphones for another two weeks. Since I can connect the S4 to my iMac via USB, can I just plug in normal headphones through my mac and still hear what I'm doing while mixing? Stupid question, but I'd like an answer. Thanks!

You can just use a 1/4inch to 1/8th inch adapter and use your headphones directly into the S4. Should work like a charm.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki
And now the webpage is up:

http://stantondj.com/stanton-controllers-systems/scs4dj.html

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Old Man Pants posted:

This is a thing of beauty, and something to be taken seriously. This is to a T exactly what I have been wanting someone to make. Is there a price yet? If i get a chance to test one out and like it, and feel that its gridding software is capable, this will easily replace carrying my laptop/stand/controller/soundcard/cables to work 5x a week.

It should street at about $499, so not a bank breaker. The gridding is sick. Plug in your drive and it starts sucking in data right away. Unlike some software, it stores your waveforms/adjustments in a different file, so your tags don't get obliterated. Wait for your songs to be gridded and you are good to go. I've been a Traktor user for years, and when I set up Traktor and SCS.4DJ side by side, the grids usually match, and in the cases that they don't the SCS.4 has been winning a good portion of the time. What I REALLY love about it is that the grid is not strictly beholden to BPM at all times (a little Ableton-like in that way), so if you have a bad drummer, it can compensate a bit-just hit sync again and it will re-lock.

One of the "easter eggs" of the unit really is the Slice effect. Once I have a full production unit (my unit has an old silk screen revision), I will be doing some videos of it in action. Essentially it is a combo sampler/looper/beat breaker. You choose your loop size with one knob, and then turn the other for the amount of "chaos". One side gives you a perfectly sync'd loop that never changes, the other sounds like a Richard Devine set (which is a good thing!!!!!!), and you can get everything in-between. I use it to do long, rolling mashups instead of the loop buttons as I can remix within the loop, and the other thing I do is use it as a virtual 3rd deck-I turn on a loop, hit stop on the song while the loop rides, hit play and sync on the new song, break the loop to 1/16th beat, release slice, boom, new song, perfectly in sync with the playing song. It is really cool.

Professorbx fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Apr 7, 2011

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

The Dark Wind posted:

So after playing around in guitar center and doing some reading, I think I've decided to my next purchase is going to be an NS7. drat that thing is so fun and awesome, I don't think I could use any other controller. I have a few questions about Serato Itch though. Can you label cue points in Serato Itch like you can in Traktor? Ideally I'd like to be able to label cue point 3 something like "breakdown" and 4 "drop" and things of that nature. Also, I just got an LPD8, I know Serato Itch is a pretty closed software and doesn't really accept other controllers, but is there any possibility of mapping some of the knobs and pads to the LPD8 to trigger certain effects or the like?

Nope. Sadly Itch is completely closed off in that way.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

THAT drat DOG posted:

^^I am at a loss as to what kind of music I would play at an event like that.

How much DJ cred would I lose if I got the Sennheiser HD 25SP ($130) over the HD 25-1 II($199)? Any sound quality difference/comparisons? All the DJs I know use either HDJ-1000s or the Technics headphones so I can't really try them. I think I will be looking into a lightweight headphone over the clunky Pioneers.

Thing is, if you were in Europe the Sennheiser's would be the standard, and you would be asking the question in reverse. I will say that the 25sp's don't get quite as loud as the regular 25's or the HDJ1000's (the Technics break constantly and sound like mud).

Take a look at the Pioneer HDJ500's. I got those to retire from regular gigging my regular Sennheiser HD25's, and they were a great investment. They sound better than the 25sp's (but not the 25's), rotate like the 25's and only cost $99 (and they come in three sexy colors!)

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Sjoewe posted:

I compared my mates HDJ-500 to my own HD-25-II, and I must admit they held up pretty good. The comfort is slightly less and there seems to be a small dip in the mid-frequencies compared to my own HD-25, but other than that I really couldn't find anything wrong with the HDJ-500.
But if I were to buy a backup mid-budget headphone, I would opt for the Technics RP-DJ1200. It's loud, it's durable, has good sound isolation and is nicely priced.

The RP-DJ1200 was a great pair of cans. Unlike the RP-DH1200, they didn't weigh a ton, look like head gear for the space shuttle crew, and didn't break if you looked at them wrong. I still pick the Pioneer though, if only because there are no locking parts to bust.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

TheWevel posted:

Hey professorbx, does this thing support cue points at all? I don't see any buttons for it but that doesn't mean that they aren't on the screen or something.


It has what I've been calling a "1.5 hot cue" system. Basically, the platter has a touch rewind feature so it can be used as a hot cue (think Pioneer CDJ-800). The ".5" comes into play with the reloop button. This can be used as a hot cue, though your loop in point doesn't remain in memory (the main cue point/touch rewind point does).

It was actually sort of a tough one to decide if we were going to include, and the main thing for us was to make it something that was not intimidating to anyone, from pros to first time DJ's.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

chrix posted:

I couldn't disagree with you more, I think the updates they've made in 2.x are fantastic and reaffirm that I made the right DVS choice.

Problem is, SSL 2.0+ is either a wonder system for you or it crashes constantly. I have had to do insane amounts of tech support for friends who have had issues where their waveforms simply stop working, audio drops, etc. As well, if you have an SL1 with any Core i3/i5/i7 system, you are pretty much hosed as soon as any serious power management kicks in.

It reminds me of when I was on Final Scratch 2/Final Scratch+Traktor 3. I was walking around feeling like I made the right choice, because my setup was bomb proof. Even as my laptop became a smoldering pile of plastic, my FS2 system worked FLAWLESSLY. Then I saw the issues that others had.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

The Dark Wind posted:

Can you go into this in more detail? I've tried looking around but information is split up between a bunch of stuff and considering all the different dates I'm not sure what information is currently accurate. I have a Macbook that I got sometime around this January, and it has an i5 in it. I was thinking of getting a TTM57 within the next week or two, but if it's going to give me a fuckton of problems, I might have to reconsider my choice.

Edit: Ok I did a bit more searching. As far as I understand, if you've got an i5 but an Apple computer you're fine, but if you're on Windows you're kinda hosed? So in regards to my situation I should be mostly ok, I'm hoping.

Edit Part 2: Also, while we're on Serato, another question. I'm getting the TTM57, but I'll probably have to wait a couple of more weeks before I can get a pair of turntables. Is there anyway to map other midi controllers to Scratch Live? Ideally I could use the jogwheels and play buttons on my Mixtrack as a temporary set up until I have my tables.

I would actually not get the 57. The new one is right around the corner, and you can get the SL2 for $499 now. They work fine with OSX-based i3/5/7's (should have sad that, sorry!). At first I was all about having everything all in one, but now, honestly, I like the freedom of switching more. If something better for my needs comes out I don't want to be stuck, and if my mixer breaks I don't want to be screwed either.

If you do decide to get a 57, you can map MIDI controllers to SSL no problem. Our SCS3d's have a pretty solid mapping, and I THINK that the Denon single deck controllers do as well. Or you can always just rock internal mode and the hot cues.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

The Dark Wind posted:

Do you happen to have any ideas as to how soon the new Serato mixer will come out? I'd rather not wait a couple of months because I'm a pretty impatient dude, but if it's like in 2 or 3 weeks I'll hold off. I thought the 68 was their newest mixer, but I don't know how recently they announced it and started shipping it out.

I've been considering getting an SL2 and another mixer instead of Serato, but I'm worried I'll be missing out on all the compatibility and features that Serato with ttm57 offers. Are there any good SL2+Mixer combinations that wouldn't break $1500, where I wouldn't have to worry about losing alot of features and all that fun stuff? Man maybe I should just get an NS7 or something. I really want some tables and Serato though.

The mixer is coming probably NAMM 2012, so it is a ways off. That said, knowing what they have done since the 57, if you get a 57 you are likely to be really pissed off when the 58 comes out. Honestly, I would get a Denon DNX-600 and SL2 combo-it will cost you around $1100, and you will have the benefit of a great FX processor, extra AUX in, good MIDI control and a soundcard that could be routed to another audio application (such as Ableton Live for the Bridge!! Yay!!).

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

OG KUSH BLUNTS posted:

Because Serato is stupid

Well, SSL doesn't have real internal mixing features, and the MIDI implementation on the decks is poor at best compared to the super-tight HID that they have in Itch. Different markets really.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

TheWevel posted:

There are hacks to get MIDI jogwheel functionality and from what I've seen, it's a lot of work for little reward. And as others have mentioned there's no internal mixing built in to SL though you can use the gains for simple fading. SL works best with a mixer, TT's or CD players not hacked together compromises.

Edit: itch is serato's answer to traktor. Traktor scratch pro is NI's answer to SSL. If you want to use controllers for software, don't use a DVS.

The jog wheel functionality is there, it is just loose as hell. It isn't even a hack so much as the folks at Serato know it isn't standard, so they put in support for what amounts to emergency-only situations.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

Serendipitaet posted:

Ok, so I've got a dumb hardware question.

Is there any real advantage of using a Mac (i.e. Macbook pro) over a Windows 7 laptop with similar/slightly better specifications? I'd be running Traktor with a controller and a NI audio interface.

Everybody's using them and I have to admit they look great, but for stuff outside of playing music I use some relatively obscure Windows applications. I also have no desire to spend even more money on VMware or using some dual boot thing, since the MBP is already more expensive than my favoured Win7 choice (Dell Latitude E6420).

I'm a die-hard mac user, and nothing will ever get me to switch back. That said....not really. The thing about OSX is that, while you can do some tweaks to get a little more juice out of your system, if you are comfortable tweaking your system and don't have any anti-virus programs running in the background, the performance and stability is comparable. The big divide comes from the fact that most DJs who run Windows laptops have them configured for poo poo, have a ton of background processes running in the background and overall have borked their system, while on OSX you really have to work hard to get to that level of crapitude.

Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

The Dark Wind posted:

True, but with how small these things are getting, I'm sure there's one small enough that you could put it discreetly in the side of the case. I'm guessing most people wouldn't expect some sort of tracker in a case, but maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part.

Kensington security lock bolted to your coffin/case. It is about the only way to really secure your stuff, if only because the whole thing becomes that much harder to haul.

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Professorbx
Jan 27, 2005
Wicki Wicki

vanilla slimfast posted:

Homeowners insurance replaced my laptop that was stolen out of our home which, incidentally, was also the laptop I used for DJing

You'd be foolish not to have renters/homeowners insurance if you have a lot of expensive gear. It comes out to a few bucks a month and is usually cheap if you bundle it with car insurance or the like

Seconded. It is totally worth it. The cool thing is, depending on the sheer quantity of gear you have, even if you have a deductible, if you put everything you have on it the more likely you are going to be able to cover the spread the more that gets stolen. It is a hosed up lottery.

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