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xcore posted:Wow, didn't realise throwing in the towel was illegal in the UFC. Is this to avoid corruption or some other reason? throwing in the towel is also illegal in boxing. if you throw in the towel, you lose the fight.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 05:43 |
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 05:04 |
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projecthalaxy posted:Are there any real single-style guys left in high-level MMA? I guess Roger Gracie might count, but even he seems to be succumbing to wrestleboxing. rousimar palhares, demian maia, ricardo almeida
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 16:38 |
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BlindSite posted:Right after I posted this I thought of Paul Daley as a pretty pure Muai Thai based striker, probably add Jose Aldo to the mix and Shinya Aoki as a pure grappler. jose aldo has a black belt in jiu jitsu from one of the best BJJ academies in the world
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 17:10 |
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Make PBF fight David Haye. That would solve 90% of boxing's problems.
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# ¿ Feb 2, 2011 18:24 |
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Jack of Hearts posted:Three questions: badly. really badly. pawel natsula and hidehiko yoshida were the best judoka to ever compete in mma, and they were basically fed to the wolves.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2011 04:50 |
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high level judo is really about getting one or two really good throws, while avoiding getting thrown. there is a lot of general grappling training, but it really boils down to being able to establish and maintain good grips and having good hips and footwork. a good wrestler will always beat a good judoka.
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# ¿ Feb 4, 2011 05:03 |
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Lurkee Mcgee posted:While we're on the topic, it's common for guys at my Jiujitsu school to crank on eachother's wrists, is that illegal in MMA? it is illegal to touch another man's hand, so it is difficult to crank the wrist
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 20:58 |
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Big Bob Pataki posted:what if you feel safe in their embrace and just dont ever wanna let go that's fine. but you aren't allowed to hold hands.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2011 21:15 |
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can someone please edit the genki sudo picture so that it says "we are all id=one" thank you
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2011 00:10 |
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nocturama posted:I've never seen a dislike of fedor besides in the sas threads. he's been a fairly good likable fighter and the hate fedor meme has just been picked up by every oval office trying to get accepted here fedor has stubborn, shady management who bully promotions and trash talk fighters while avoiding fights. his interview style is terribly off putting. his fans, for a very long time, have been insistent that he is the best ever. most people with eyes and brains who watch his fights understood that he is fast, has power, and has a very aggressive top game. they also understood that he is small, and has lovely defense (both standing an on the ground). the reality havers would post stuff that was objectively true, then fedor fans would basically just agitate them. it feels really satisfying to watch yourself be validated as weirdos post long weepy things about how their lives are ruined.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2011 16:50 |
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nocturama posted:fedor and bj got me into mma, so I'm used to reading poo poo here from hating motherfuckers, and I can deal with with it, it just gets boring and tiresome reading the same poo poo over and over those guys are the worst
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2011 17:15 |
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antonio mckee got me into mma.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2011 17:15 |
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mobn posted:I think a good thing would be to encourage 10-10 scoring, but to help allay the possibility of more draws (which is doubtlessly why the commission discourages 10-10 scores) they could add one or two extension rounds in the case of a draw. why not just have a draw when there's a draw.
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# ¿ Feb 15, 2011 17:12 |
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why do bjj guys always say "position before submission" but then try to work off their backs when that is the losingest position?
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2011 00:51 |
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but a lot of the time you see guys hang out in guard, and not frantically and constantly attempt to stand up or sweep. is this bad coaching or genetic or what
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2011 04:58 |
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so what you are saying is that bjj is powerless against a man who mostly wants to lay upon you motionlessly
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2011 05:09 |
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so if there's this obvious and glaring flaw why aren't people actively trying to find techniques to overcome it
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# ¿ Feb 17, 2011 05:17 |
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you mean consensus. i hope. i really hope.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2011 15:44 |
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mobn posted:consensus is a noun, consensual is an adjective thanks for clearing that up. helpful as always.
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# ¿ Mar 6, 2011 19:44 |
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mobn posted:http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/consensual thanks for clearing that up mobn. helpful as always.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2011 01:31 |
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and once again we all agree that surfing is better than training with the gi
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# ¿ Mar 8, 2011 03:02 |
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Pneub posted:The gays always say that about people they know. is that why your dad keeps calling me, crying endlessly about his "unbelievably gay son"?
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# ¿ Mar 10, 2011 17:27 |
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Five Cent Deposit posted:What I mean is, back in the day when two heavyweight boxers would meet and both get 10-20 million a piece, there'd still be money left over to pay the undercarders a decent wage, right? what in the world makes you think that
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# ¿ Mar 13, 2011 18:56 |
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Five Cent Deposit posted:Yeah, I get that. I'm not talking about the FOTN, KO and Sub bonuses though. I'm talking about the constant hinting/insinuating that "we're taking care of so-and-so above and beyond his $15k." because its rude to tell people how much someone else makes.
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# ¿ Mar 14, 2011 01:09 |
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being a bus driver in toronto requires way more skills and training than being mac danzig
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2011 18:34 |
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preliminary research suggests that very few bus drivers are currently mac danzig. that's encouraging.
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2011 19:30 |
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so what you are saying is that bus drivers are twice as smart as fighters
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# ¿ Mar 17, 2011 22:17 |
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kimbo305 posted:Thanks for the flip response to a general issue, I guess? I've known guys who couldn't accept an amateur fight out of state because they couldn't get a ride. agreed. there is no more serious and unfunny problem than somebody not getting his mom's sonata for the weekend.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 15:58 |
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judo is for children. i don't think mothers should be letting children drive themselves.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 17:52 |
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kimbo305 posted:words of wisdom from a child. that's literally the same as every other sport. except most of them have parents footing the bills. hockey, football, wrestling, driving, golf,boxing whatever. all very expensive and you don't get any money for years and years and years.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 18:09 |
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so what is your point? what is your solution? these people participating in this activity (which costs money, just like every other similar activity) with a very high barrier to the professional level (just like every other similar activity) should get paid to play their game? everyone else in a beer league isn't getting paid.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 18:17 |
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i really like your softball league ed, but i know guys in AAA ball who are getting paid 500 bucks a game. i'm gonna have to sit until you make a better offer.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 18:18 |
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except there's wrestling and any smart kid looking to get into mma would already be wrestling. lots of people go into mma later in life without having a background in a combat sport, and they are all bad. as the skill level of the sport rises these guys without athletic backgrounds will be getting crushed at the low levels of the pro ranks.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 19:06 |
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what is your solution to your problem? should bad fighters get paid a lot of money to practice in front of seven guys?
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2011 19:06 |
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the yellow dart posted:The main issue remains that some fighters would do far worse under systems that a union would propose than they do right now. Getting paid similarly based on performance (W/L) would hurt fighters like Chris Leben or Lytle dramatically. Neither of those guys are world beaters, but even in their losses they get paid significantly more than others because they are entertaining. Working things out to be "fair" would be extremely "unfair" to those guys since their paydays would essentially evaporate. good. those guys suck.
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# ¿ Mar 26, 2011 18:07 |
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Jack of Hearts posted:Thanks. I knew both of those things (though I'd forgotten the second part) and thought there might just be more to the story. (By which I mean that I secretly hoped there existed a style of Stoned Monkey Jiu Jitsu that was unstoppable in the hands of a master who smoked enough weed.) he beat a gracie at abu dhabi and people paid attention to him. he was decent in competitions, and had a flash of brilliance, but now he's fat and dumb.
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2011 01:33 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Why are guillotines and rear naked chokes far and away the most common subs; is it because you can catch people in guillotines and then work for it a bit, and with rear naked chokes you can take back control and spend the round wearing the guy down? armbars can lead to loss of position very easily, as can mounted triangles (except it tends to be that dudes who go for mounted triangles are excellent so they get finished), shoulder locks take a lot strength, and footlocks/toeholds can take a lot of strength and can be very difficult to finish. a lot of other leglocks give up position as well. chokes such as the d'arce, anaconda and arm triangle can be done without sacrificing too much, but if you don't have it completely correct its very easy to gas your arms out (same as a guillotine). RNC is flat out the best and highest percentage move from back control, triangle is the best from guard, and guillotine is the best from standing/scramble. head and arm chokes are becoming more common from scrambles i think.
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2011 17:38 |
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Elmo Oxygen posted:What else is there, really? dragon sleeper (which cort says doesn't work but he's wrong), twister, armbar, full nelson, stefan struve arm triangle, that retard hell choke or whatever that someone posted a video of
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2011 23:26 |
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there's a video of garcia and askren grappling and i'm pretty sure garcia taps him with a rings of saturn and a secret move. it should be noted that omoplata is the lowest percentage move, in that it is 0 percent effective
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# ¿ Mar 29, 2011 23:27 |
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# ¿ May 4, 2024 05:04 |
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projecthalaxy posted:I was having a discussion with a friend of mine about MMA, and the following question came up: brock would have died in the ring at sergei's hands.
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# ¿ Apr 14, 2011 20:02 |