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BlindSite posted:Wait, you're not meant to touch dudes junk?! What's the drat point of grappling then? You gotta leave room for Jesus when you're giving them the good ol' Christian side-hug-based fighting arts.
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# ¿ Jan 2, 2015 06:30 |
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# ¿ May 5, 2024 20:52 |
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You're not fooling me, that's just a single pair of people rolling everywhere in a timelapse photo (source: some of the pixels)
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# ¿ Apr 28, 2016 22:58 |
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JaySB posted:The Hayabusa Metaru 47 is the one I linked earlier and is definitely my favorite. Hey hug thread, I recently received and used a Sub Sports shirt and so far it seems pretty great, so thanks! Neon Belly posted:I bought some Hayabusa shorts a year ago or so. They felt great while wearing, but they did not last very long. My Amazon $20 shorts, though, have lasted years now. Kind of want to just switch to spats with no shorts, though I'm still waiting on the Sub Sports spats to ship, but I didn't see any Sub Sports shorts there. What are your $20 Amazon shorts? vvv Thanks! 🤗 also yes stories please Grace Baiting fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Mar 4, 2017 |
# ¿ Mar 4, 2017 04:05 |
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Personally I’ve had by far the most success with this one, from Rener & Ryron Gracie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR2rS2dwpNY I’m definitely open to other suggestions though!
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# ¿ Jan 6, 2018 15:54 |
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Xguard86 posted:That's why I call it dead possum.
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# ¿ Nov 15, 2018 17:08 |
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Yuns posted:New variant triangle we have been using: That triangle stuff looks looks neat as hell -- the actual triangle mechanics/finish made me think of one I've only ever seen in a pair of Neil Melanson videos from a while back: 2014 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSGfAFE3qV4 2013 video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bizcQ0wZQkg ...although rewatching both Danaher's and Melanson's inverted triangles, they're actually done with opposite arms trapped, even though both of them underhook uke's left leg. Melanson ends up with uke's free arm behind his butt and hugs uke's trapped arm and their underhooked left leg; Melanson's choking pressure comes from his outside (left) thigh trapping the neck, inside thigh on the carotid, and calf behind uke's shoulder for the other carotid. Whereas Danaher rotates his hips behind uke's trapped arm (like a guard armbar), so uke's free arm is left next to their underhooked leg; Danaher's choking pressure comes from his inside (left) thigh trapping the neck, his hips forcing uke's shoulder into their carotid, and his outside (right) calf on the other carotid. Triangles have long been one of my favorite chokes despite being not great at them. I need to practice them more in general, and want to try more of these inverted (ish?) triangles in particular!
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# ¿ Dec 2, 2018 23:57 |
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flashman posted:We did a variation of this at a Jake Mackenzie seminar where you hook the bottom guys leg with yours to clear half guard nice to learn the name. I too had never learned the name São Paulo or Tozi pass (in my notes from years ago I learned it without a name and just called it "underhook pass"), so it's good to know what it's actually named! Was Mackenzie's leg hooking variation like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLYOZYeY9IM I originally learned this pass to include stapling their calf to the ground with your shin, then windshield-wipering your other foot over to complete the pass, but I like the looks of that ankle hook drag. Mel Mudkiper posted:Had one of those extreme white belt moments where you do something so dumb its an immediately learning experience.
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# ¿ Mar 7, 2019 16:31 |
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Neon Belly posted:Yes but this one time one of those stoner guys beat a UFC fighter, so it's all worth it. (Seriously tho that amateur MMA regulatory environment sounds not too great) heeebrew posted:Here's one of my teammates killing a dude with a triangle from bottom side control - https://www.flograppling.com/video/6218777-jeremiah-vance-nails-venus-flytrap-choke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prAnlIg7rqY *substituted arm triangle?
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# ¿ Mar 22, 2019 16:26 |
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Decades posted:Yeah it worked great Like they say, tucking your nose is not a technical defense vs RNC / straight choke
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# ¿ Mar 28, 2019 13:58 |
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it's called street defense. And you know these people -- they're talking to you, wha dah dah dah dah... something's gonna go wrong, and you wanna choke the guy out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mosX7L25HV8
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2019 15:42 |
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Arm triangle finishing details (starting from side control already) from this thread's very own Yuns and a reply by Common Shore, from a few months back:Yuns posted:I'd bet cash money that you have the wrong arm position and that no amount of tightening will make the choke better and will just instead crank the neck. CommonShore posted:^^^
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2019 21:27 |
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Agreed, I pronounce it "supple-X" like all red blooded Americans do
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# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 15:50 |
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SHOAH NUFF posted:So I don’t think I am doing the arm drag like that, I am dragging it clear across perpendicular to my spine so his hand ends up in my pocket , not diagonal up to my armpit, maybe I should fix my arm drag and this won’t happen Gordon Ryan has a recent video on arm drag (mostly from guard) to back take that you might be interested in! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_c7G5T_ZR8
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2019 18:41 |
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:I understand the background, I just dont understand what horse is has in the race by responding. I never really understood why big names in Jiu Jitsu get into the political mix. Xguard86 posted:Let's do change topics: John Danaher's half guard video with Bernardo Faria from recently included some good discussion of that: more connections to your opponent's body = slower roll, and half guard strongly connects you to your opponent's body, so it's great for slowing things down to negate a quicker opponent's speed. And you're gonna be slowing down when you get older, so half guard goes great with age! Also y'know a ton of other stuff in that 27m44s video! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8x1Cva8hJ8
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2019 22:10 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:So we were playing around with a funky sub in class tonight, basically when someone turns toward you to defend the reverse arm triangle, you keep your shoulder pressure (so like, a reverse shoulder of justice) and then scoop their near leg and navy ride and move towards S-gripping your hands like a cradle. It's basically a really hosed up spinal lock (essentially the same action as a twister, except you're also folding them in half and putting pressure on their shoulder) and I dubbed it "the pepper mill" because it's spicy and you're twisting their upper and lower body in opposite directions. If I'm reading this right, sounds similar to this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGl7fG42dyc Mark Hatmaker here calls it the "Cradle-Crunch" if so.
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# ¿ Sep 25, 2019 12:27 |
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Here everyone enjoy the incredibly stupid move I was talking about the other day Oh nice so like a straitjacket* -> breaststroke choke combo'd with a(n outside?) cradle hold. Quite different from what I had in mind before -- I interpreted the "reverse arm triangle" beginning as the arm-in NS choke (which I've heard called "reverse arm triangle" as well!), "Peppermill" seems like a good name, and it looks horrible. Thanks I like it! *or at least I learned that first motion, walking their elbow across their centerline with your hips, as a position/maneuver called straitjacket or barbed wire; it could also be a shoulder submission depending on their flexibility. Does anyone else call it that? Terminology is hard
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 15:27 |
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Xguard86 posted:100 push ups One-Sub Man
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2019 15:30 |
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Yuns posted:I have an odd way to deal with it if I know someone is going to backstep from my half into leg entanglements. I will anticipate and hook my outside leg ankle under their trapped leg usually at the ankle/shin with foot to the inside and knee to the outside and then use my inside leg to hook over the top of the trapped leg so that the leg is still pinned between my legs. When they backstep, they will not have my outside leg between their legs. On the contrary, I'll elevate their leg using that outside leg under the ankle and come up on them. Don't know if anyone else does that but that's my shut down. Is this basically "wrong"-side lockdown, i.e. the lockdown figure-4 but your ankles are crossed to the outside of their trapped leg?
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# ¿ Feb 1, 2020 02:31 |
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Cyber Sandwich posted:The first Google Search entry was not helpful. It'll definitely spice a salad, no doubt. From late September ish: Mechafunkzilla posted:So we were playing around with a funky sub in class tonight, basically when someone turns toward you to defend the reverse arm triangle, you keep your shoulder pressure (so like, a reverse shoulder of justice) and then scoop their near leg and navy ride and move towards S-gripping your hands like a cradle. It's basically a really hosed up spinal lock (essentially the same action as a twister, except you're also folding them in half and putting pressure on their shoulder) and I dubbed it "the pepper mill" because it's spicy and you're twisting their upper and lower body in opposite directions. Mechafunkzilla posted:Here everyone enjoy the incredibly stupid move I was talking about the other day
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# ¿ Feb 21, 2020 06:38 |
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butros posted:oh that's just mean Is it the ankle lock here, but from 50/50 rather than the saddle? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iByvUzTk4Ko This does still transition to a saddle heel hook (unless they'd prefer to tap to the ankle lock first instead!). Danaher's assumption here is that the opponent will be able to handfight out of the figure-4 cross(?) ankle lock, which exposes their trapped heel by doing so; perhaps the same holds true in 50/50? Or maybe your entangled leg in 50/50 can block them from leaning forward well enough to handfight, providing you enough time/space to reliably finish the ankle lock?
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2020 17:25 |
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:I dont want to turn this into a D&D thread, but can you guys give me your opinion on this? Two people trying to choke each other in the context of a competitive sport is cool and good (when there's no pandemic). There is a vast, unbridgeable gulf between that and cops choking people, which is neither cool nor good — especially when they kill them in the process! I don't think cops' potential lack of technical expertise at choking people is the actual issue here. Incidentally this part of that article seemed important too: "California Department of Justice data from 2018 shows that people of color were two times more likely to be put into chokehold restraints than white people across the nation."
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# ¿ Jun 6, 2020 06:55 |
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rest his guts posted:something to do with your bean bag? Crossing your ankles from the back can lead to an ankle lock (Achilles lock style, or potentially heel hook style, depending on which leg goes on top) by the person who you've got back control on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IGA5U3WL7g Though it's not 100% guaranteed by any means, and here's some discussion about when/how/why it can be fine to cross your ankles from the back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8FBybIk6Bg There's even a modified twister ish submission that's somewhat related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR2uY0dIeLU Actual technique demonstration begins at 1m09s, and the "straighten your top leg" defense that Biernacki mentions is used pretty directly within Melanson's "if you're lanky you can take some shortcuts" segment starting at 5m15s.
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2020 20:37 |
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Tacos Al Pastor posted:I caught him the other day putting another white belt to sleep via a choke and then get up with a grin on his face. This sounds verytroubling btw, like 100% unacceptable on multiple levels. Including some that I'm assuming ("didn't feel" the tap? not tending to an unconscious training partner?) beyond just what you've explicated here. Please take this seriously.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2020 03:46 |
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02-6611-0142-1 posted:There’s a really gross lockdown counter where you make a bit of space so you can move the locked-down leg, then you just stand up. You kind of have to get your toes planted and then back away to get the rest of your foot flat. It’s very easy to injure people with it and it’s terrifying: lockdown player is completely immobilized, both legs crossed over each other, and you’ll destroy both their knees if you take it to the limit. The only picture of it that I can find comes from a documented case of instructor abuse. that one's my favorite. I've never heard of a name for it, and the lockdown-er has essentially full control to release their lockdown at almost any point prior to it being fully locked in, which means it should only ever work on anyone exactly once. But it's hilarious to apply (carefully!) for that one time on someone who hasn't seen it! I've never heard of it being especially dangerous though -- iirc the mode of submission is a sort of double calf slicer where the pivot/bar behind their knees are their own other ankles, and yeah calf slicers are no joke, so I guess yeah definitely be careful while applying it. Yikes @ the instructor abuse though I miss my competitive hugging tho
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# ¿ Sep 23, 2020 01:27 |
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Mekchu posted:
Can opener
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# ¿ Nov 10, 2020 15:53 |
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Congrats Count Roland, sry to hear that heeebrew + good luck, and I thought this Mittens Bernie needed to be shared here:
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# ¿ Jan 27, 2021 06:20 |
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I'd imagine something more like this pair of techniques also from Neil Melanson, which he describes as a hip compression: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfsotaaH4lk (Of course Mechafunkzilla chime in if you have any better examples for what you were mentioning!)
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# ¿ Apr 16, 2021 02:06 |
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If it's outside(? regular?) ashi garami, there's always the venerable "just stick your other foot's toes into their elbow" technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiOEcI-Vu6M
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# ¿ Jun 12, 2021 21:34 |
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CommonShore posted:rofl that owns Lmao very yes quote:NO-GI HAS NEVER BEEN THIS CONFUSING!
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# ¿ Jun 22, 2021 16:29 |
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gay for gacha posted:I'm pretty sure my ring worm is gone, I've finished my antibiotics for mrsa today, but I think I'm going take the week off. I didn't realize how tired my brain was after 7 months of 10-15 sessions a week, and I guess my body was tired too. Please check the antifungal's directions-for-use and continue treating the affected regions until you complete the recommended treatment duration, which tends to be somewhere in the range of 2 to 4 weeks. Ringworm loves to look "all better" after about a week of OTC treatment, lulling you into a false sense of security/victory, while still being ready to roar back a week or two later. Don't be fooled!! Also sorry about the MRSA, that sounds scarier
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# ¿ Jul 27, 2021 13:16 |
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If I were in the middle of a death-defying feat of gymnastics and got the twisties, I would simply tap out and thereby land unharmed (although gravity would then be declared the victor of our match)
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# ¿ Jul 30, 2021 20:00 |
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Lockdown achievements, huh... • Whip-up • Jaws of Life • The Apollo • Electric Chair (sweep or submission!) • The Oldschool • Butterfly Sweep • The Secret Toehold • transition to Crab Guard Yeah that's a fair few patches, you should be all set!
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2021 03:47 |
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FreakyMetalKid posted:This guy locks down. Don't forget the whip-down. I went away from using the lockdown for awhile until I realized how helpful it was as a tool to get my under hook back. Oh hellz yeah, whip-down too! I need to (when grappling again ) use lockdown as a transitory tool and not just a crutch / position to hang out in forever, which is what I would sometimes lazily drift into, back in the Before Times. knuthgrush posted:while i enjoy fort kickass, i don't think the childrens have seen archer. well, maybe the 13 year old. i thought about adding something like 'covid combat club' or 'quarantine combat club' to whatever title we end up with. we have a lot of pine trees so that's maybe something to toss into it.
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# ¿ Aug 20, 2021 17:25 |
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Obviously the same way you would tie your belt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMV05LiuLaw
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# ¿ Oct 22, 2021 05:18 |
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Fuckin yiiiiikes That's way closer to some Art Of Self Defense poo poo than anything should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0oBCWO_I4 (Good movie tho)
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2021 21:33 |
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knuthgrush posted:Tonight I learned that everyone in the evening classes I attend thinks I smell good. I'm not sure what to do with that information. Well on the plus side you're probably getting more interest from rolling partners than you would otherwise; on the minus side you've gotta tap people out honestly with your north-south choke (and similar) with no assist from any skunk powers. Pretty decent trade off imo
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# ¿ Dec 31, 2021 14:36 |
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Count Roland posted:I've done this once before but I didn't pay attention at the time exactly how I had done it. So I know its possible, this is why I ask. There's a video I saw a while ago that demonstrates some of what you're asking + what 02-6611-0142-1 is saying: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NH-k1IEz4 The whole sequence is: • Arm Triangle! ...but they turn away • Arm-in RNC! ...but they loop their arms under their knee to separate their shoulder from neck • Switch choking arm immediately for RNC on the now-exposed neck! At the end of the video while going through that whole sequence, Seph Smith calls the arm-in RNC a sort of no-gi Ezekiel + RNC hybrid, so perhaps this is exactly the video mentioned! Not what I'd usually think of as an Ezekiel though.
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# ¿ Jan 20, 2022 16:31 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:What do I do if someone puts me in a triangle with no arm in? Like, they just wrap their legs around my head. If it's out of something like a double-under pass, keep your shoulders shrugged to prevent them from getting a bite on your head in the first place. If they still try locking their legs just on your head even while you're shrugging up, you should be able to wiggle out of the figure-4 (possibly shoving up with one hand) while completing the pass without getting your ears crushed. Fake edit: by "they can try to force a hand or fist in there for a choke", did you mean the actual no-arms triangle? e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B88qZ0EOPRk I Would Simply Avoid It, is my advice (and I believe shrugging to prevent their legs from getting a bite will work in this context too).
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2022 17:08 |
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Count Roland posted:I watched the finish then saw this Danaher video: I specifically learned some "how to mount top" stuff similar to a lot of this, once upon a time, and that video makes it all click so much better than ever before. Like broadly these are much the same concepts as I was taught all those years ago, but just way more refined and cohesive — in particular, the initial palm-up cross-grip, and using your head motion to direct/power your structural pressure when separating and then killing their arm. Oh and I was never previously taught to finish the sequence by chest-smothering the opponent in order to provoke unsafe reactions
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# ¿ Apr 1, 2022 23:40 |
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# ¿ May 5, 2024 20:52 |
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laxbro posted:Tripod sweep sounds right. I would turn and pull my foot out after breaking the sleeve grip. Rotating to break an ankle grip when your foot's placed their stomach is quite legit I'd think, you don't want to mess around vs Estima Lock or Aoki Lock (depending on which direction your foot's pointing) e: I misread and thought you were the bottom player here. Still very legit to break early ankle grips when your partner's the one on bottom! Marcelo Garcia has a good video on some of that, demonstrated in no-gi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_6Pj5ycS6I Basically the anti-leg-entanglement version of the classic JUST WALK OUT https://mobile.twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/1125839557352742913 Grace Baiting fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Apr 12, 2022 |
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