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Xguard86 posted:Editted the OP with new sub stuff and took out the incorrect Chinese. Is there a form of grappling that is not gay? Even the descendants of Ghengis Khan manage to twink it up. My only quibble with the informational posts is the one describing various positions and subs. Your half guard section says that the top fighter is harder to sweep. I think that while in MMA that is true (lord knows I would never go to deep half if I could be punched in the face) but in straight grappling looking at a lot of the work done by guys like Marcelo, half guard is seriously dangerous position for sweeps. In my experience I have found sweeping from half (and it's variants) to be far easier than full guard (except butterfly, sweet sweet butterfly guard)
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Xguard86 posted:I was making a joke based on 50/50 being the new fad but I think specific positions should be left to discussion. I tried to keep the OP Grappling 101 to keep from overwhelming people. At least he didn't get kneebahed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k_47Fjao8Y fatherdog posted:Properly applied, a straight footlock will actually break the bones of the foot (the metatarsals), not just the ligaments. The half guard game has evolved to the point where it's really hard to quantify what half guard is. There's deep half, 93, half butterfly, x-guard, hell even tornado guard is a half guard variant.
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westcoaster posted:Did he have a glove over his stump to box with? I saw a guy with one hand fight here in Tulsa back in late 2009. It was hilarious because as he was wailing on his opponent from mount his "glove" came flying off. His poor opponent definitely ate two or three bare stump shots before the ref stepped in.
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Can we get a DNA test on Gabi Garcia? I'm not totally convinced she possesses two X chromosomes
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Mens -66kg final: Rafa Mendes def. Cobrinha on points (well really he didn't score any points but Cobrinha jumped guard and got a negative point) Mens -77kg final: Marcelo def. Leo Vieira by triangle Mens -88kg final: Andre Galvao def. Paul Harris on points 8-3 Mens -99kg final: Dean "the greatest middleweight that never was" Lister def. Joao Assis by heel hook (Dean openly baited Joao into a leg lock battle and Joao stupidly bit on it) Mens +99kg final: Vinny Magalhaes def. Fabricio Werdum on points (towards the end Werdum had Vinny in what looked like a sickeningly deep armbar but Vinny refused to tap and eventually escaped) Now we're just waiting for the absolute bracket to be finalized. Edit: Absolute news: -No Mendes -No Marcelo -No Cyborg -No Paul Harris ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Sep 25, 2011 |
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Sep 25, 2011 16:22
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It's David Taylor's world, we're all just taking up space in it
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He pinned his first four opponents and then tech fall'ed in the finals. That is staggering domination. One of my old training partners wrestled D1 and he's gobsmacked. He said every match in that tournament is the hardest match you'll have all season. To just run through the field and make it look that easy is the definition of individual greatness. Edit: oh and he's only a RS sophomore. If I were at 165 right now i'd be running for the exits to find another weight ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Mar 18, 2012 |
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district of thizz posted:A tech fall is when a wrestler has a point total greater than his opponent. From my high school experience I believe it is 15. Most likely a different number in college but probably the same principle. It's 15 in college too. Taylor won 22-7 and all 7 of those were Taylor letting the guy up so he could hit another takedown
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Paul Pot posted:carefully curling toes is the gentle bjj move and not as effective in real fighting, a demonic catchwrestler will rip those fuckers right off That's why truly demonic catch wrestlers wear shoes
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Women who wrestle at 72kg scare me. That is all E: awesome uchi mata by lee E2: Henry Cejudo lost the finals and left his shoes on the mat announcing his retirement from wrestling ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Apr 22, 2012 |
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I should give Braulio a call. I know how it feels to be stood up by Nick Diaz, maybe I can offer some coping strategies (my main one is seething hatred of all things stockton)
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Gracie Barra fighter randomly gets two points while his guard is being passed and wins 6-4. Never change ibjjf
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Buchecha just got a take down and advantage in the last 15 seconds to win the absolute
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How much do you think it chaps Ryan Hall's rear end that when you google Ryan Hall you get a million links to this guy? http://deadspin.com/5926710/can-god-coach-an-american-marathoner-to-olympic-gold
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Ryan Hall has some pretty good insight into TLI and the situation there. As he writes here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/121007439/Open-Letter-to-the-Martial-Arts-Community
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The IOC actually just did something very profound. They found the only way, outside an alien invasion, to get Russia, Iran and the US to unite in a common cause. e: tell me this doesn't smell like a set up to bilk some money out of big buck countries like the US, Russia and Japan. quote:Round one http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/how-the-ioc-voted-to-eliminate-wrestling-round-by-round/ The votes weren't even close. And then there's this: quote:The IOC will now put wrestling up against the seven other sports that have fought long and hard to be added to the schedule, including karate, squash, roller sports, wakeboarding, sport climbing, the chinese martial art of wushu, and baseball and softball in a joint bid. http://olympictalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/12/how-wrestling-can-get-back-in-the-olympics/related/ Message to FILA: YOU'RE BRIBING THE WRONG PEOPLE! ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Feb 12, 2013 |
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Xguard86 posted:we just need an oil sheik to jump in and rescue wrestling by giving it its very own semi-corrupt traveling location world championship. Sadly my oil company is still in the startup phase and hasn't even made its first acquisition yet or I'd totally be there.
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FILA should bring Alexander Karelin to every meeting with the IOC and tell them that if wrestling isn't restored Karelin will drop every one of them on their head.
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Some more reports on what the "medal chasers" culture is like. http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/5/4066506/team-lloyd-irvin-sex-abuse-cult-power-medal-chasers-exodus Here are some swell excerpts. quote:According to a source, Irvin also recently held a meeting with a portion of his team to discuss his prior rape arrest. "There were eight male team members in the room, and he told us the sex was a 'train' and the girl was 'down'... he then said the next day the girl's boyfriend found out about the incident and made her report it as rape." The former student continued, "Lloyd told us he had paid for Matthew Maldonado and Nick Schultz's lawyer retainer when they initially were arrested. And we were given specific instructions to not to tell anyone he did that." quote:A while back, my son and daughter were discussing her desire to practice jiujitsu again (something my son is always encouraging his sisters to do) and she asked what he thought about her coming to Lloyd Irvin's gym to train for a few months. At first my son entertained the idea, but as their conversation became more thoughtful about the logistics, etc., my son recanted. Then he said after a minute or so, "no, I don't think you should come." When she asked why, he said, "I don't want you around Master Lloyd, he can be manipulative and I'm not totally sure I trust him." I was pulled into the conversation by his statement and asked what he meant, but we were distracted mid-conversation and never got back to it. quote:The allegations of improper conduct between instructors and students appear to extend beyond just the main school into affiliate gyms, such as with the story from roughly five years ago, of a then 17-year-old former student at a Lloyd Irvin affiliate school who claimed that she was forced to show her instructor -- not Irvin, but an instructor at the Irvin affiliate school -- all of her text messages and Facebook conversations and then was forced to have sex with him for somewhere around a year. When the incident was reported, the only action taken was to have the instructor removed from the school. This story was corroborated by multiple sources, with one source stating that this instructor was told not to fly back to the gym when the information came out at a jiu jitsu tournament, but no police involvement was ever sought. It seems like this is slowly morphing into MMA/BJJ's version of Penn State. I wonder if the IBJJF and UFC will step up and ban Lloyd Irvin and anyone competing under his name from competing.
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Big Ten championships start in 20 minutes. Today's action will only be streamed on btn.com (subscriber access only $12.95/mo) but finals will be on BTN live tomorrow.
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Thoguh posted:Big 10 championships are on now. at 125 pounds it is #2 Matt McDonough of Iowa vs. #4 Jesse Delgodo of Illinois. McDonough down 5-1 entering third. mcDonough chooses down. Could have first upset of the day
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Delgado Wins! Tell you what he was fun as hell to watch. He shot and shot and shot and shot E: score was 10-4 133 lbs Logan Stieber (tOSU) vs Tony Ramos (Iowa) up now ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Mar 10, 2013 |
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We go to overtime 1-1!
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Stieber Wins in sudden victory with a last second body lock take down. Awesome match we'll see these two again in a couple weeks.
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Here are the finals matchups. 125 lbs - Jesse Delgado (Illinois) def. Matt McDonough (Iowa) 10-4 133 lbs - Logan Stieber (tOSU) def. Tony Ramos (Iowa) 3-1 141 lbs - Hunter Stieber (tOSU) vs. Mark Ballweg (Iowa) 149 lbs - Jake Sueflohn (Nebraska) vs. Dylan Ness (Minnesota) 157 lbs - Jason Welch (Northwestern) vs. James Green (Nebraska) 165 lbs - David Taylor (PSU) vs. Conrad Polz (Illinois) 174 lbs - Matt Brown (PSU) vs. Mike Evans (Iowa) 184 lbs - Ed Ruth (PSU) vs. Kevin Steinhaus (Minnesota) 197 lbs - Quentin Wright (PSU) vs. Scott Schiller (Minnesota) HW - Tony Nelson (Minnesota) vs. Mike McMullan (Northwestern) e: oh and once again David Taylor has tech fall'ed his way to the finals, will he tech fall for the championship? Probably.
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Hunter Stieber wins 8-3 at 141 lbs.
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HOLY poo poo WHAT A FALL Dylan Ness gives up back points to get in position to roll through and get the fall
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Jason Welch gets the fall while down a point late in the third to win. Green really over committed to initiating a scramble and missed. David Taylor time. e: Polz showed decent defense to start but gave up a TD with :08 left in the first, chose down in the 2nd and Taylor rode him for the full 2 minutes, then Taylor chose down to start the 3rd got a reversal and is now riding Polz out. Polz has been issued 2 penalties for stalling. Taylor lets Polz up just to take him right back down. David Taylor wins 9-1 ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Mar 10, 2013 |
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In non-wrestling news: Lloyd Irvin has terminated his affiliate program.quote:Effective Immediately: Team Lloyd Irvin Affiliate Program is Terminated! http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/10/4087464/lloyd-irvin-announces-termination-team-lloyd-irvin-affiliate-program e: bonus points if you spot the subtle race card ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Mar 11, 2013 |
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Thoguh posted:NCAA Championships are next Thursday-Saturday (March 21-23) in Des Moines, IA. I can probably write up a preview if nobody else wants to. Anybody else interested? Agreeing with everyone else that this would be awesome
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God I just hope one of them doesn't trip up and screw us all out of a once in the lifetime type match
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Looks like Matt McDonough wasn't very happy last night http://deadspin.com/wrestler-comes-in-second-place-at-big-10-tournament-th-452883712
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I think that notion comes from a few places. First, people develop at different times so a 5th year senior at a D2 school might have taken that long to develop that athletic ability of a super freak 19 year old D1 redshirt freshman. Second, there are 73 D1 wrestling programs that are allowed the equivalent of 9.9 full scholarships. And funding for wrestling programs is usually pretty tight so teams don't carry super deep benches or take flyers on guys betting they'll develop in 3 years. So these guys end up in one of the 52 D2 programs that are allowed the equivalent of 9 full scholarships. Compare that to FBS football which is allowed to have 85 players on scholarship (any player on scholarship counts regardless if they are on a full or partial) and add up to 25 new "counters" per year. There are 10,200 FBS scholarships out there, so teams can take a chance on a guy that he'll develop in a couple years. Third, since there is no "going pro" coming out of collegiate wrestling, the school you attend doesn't have huge implications on your future success. In football if you aren't in FBS your odds of getting drafted drop through the floor. That isn't a consideration for most wrestlers so guys can make decisions based on academics or other factors. Also, most of the data that we can look at for the competition between D1 and D2 guys comes from MMA, Freestyle, and Greco. But like the Chael Sonnen said in the interview at the top of this page, not everything translates across these disciplines. A D2 collegiate wrestler might be a world class freestyle guy, just because his skillset suits those rules better.
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BlindSite posted:Isn't there also a wealth of talent that doesn't go to a D1 school because of academics, by which I mean they choose to go to a better academic school or for other reasons. I think I remember hearing about Shane Carwin not electing to go to a d1 school because he wanted a better engineering program and Matt Hammil choosing a less ranked wrestling school because he's deaf. Carwin wrestled for Western State here in CO and wanted to play football and wrestle. Obviously the wrestling in CO at the high school level so getting a big time program to notice him would be hard (though Wisconsin has a HW from Loveland who I think looks really good for a RS freshman). He was a two time all American in football and was listed as a top MLB in the draft until teams heard about his back problems. So he went back for his last year and won the national championship at HW. Then after he graduated he got a job as an assistant at Mines (Go Diggers!) while he pursued a degree in mechanical engineering. E: and it's not just me that likes Connor Medbery, he was named Big 10 freshman of the year ch3cooh fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Mar 13, 2013 |
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Sigh Kron really needs some new friends
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Kyle Dake just won his international debut against Hassan Tahmasebi of Iran. Both periods went to the tiebreaker. First period Dake lost the ball draw and had to defend. He reversed almost instantly with a great crotch lift to win the period. In the second Dake won the ball draw and as soon as the referee blew the whistle Dake high crotched and flipped Tahmasebi over his head for a 3 point takedown and the match.
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