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We are all photographers now. And being that we are all big fat photo nerds, we probably feel a burning desire to carry a camera around with us 24/7. And not just some crappy cell phone camera, neither, but a proper camera! May I introduce you, fellow pathetic photo nerd, to the 35mm point & shoot?    Yes, the 35mm point and shoot. The humble and once ubiquitous genre of cameras that are always a nice addition to a photographer's arsenal. But wait! I've already fashioned an impenetrable exosuit of Leica M7s and RZ67s!! Why do I need a chintzy goofball hipster camera?? Many of us probably already have quite respectable camera collection as is. Rare and expensive. Japanese and German. Why would we ever want to use anything else? The answer is because they are clunky and impractical. We all know the huge burden of walking around with a massive medium format camera all day. And unfortunately, as is the case in most of the world most of the time, the sun sets eventually. And no one wants to be caught at night with a huge and unwieldy medium format or expensive SLR system with the wrong film, or having to work with an antiquated flash/metering system. Heh! You're just a pathetic weakling! I carry my 16x20 around all day. I run in marathons with it. Clearly you must be a Holga user Even if you DO have a system for shooting medium/large format reliably at night, even if it doesn't bother you to carry around your body + lenses all day and night, even if you are some sort of superhuman freak who can reload his camera in seconds flat, there are distinct advantages to a cheap but solid camera:   They are less expensive, so you don't care about them as much. They are quiet, discrete, and can be hand held even on say, a roller coaster. They can be everywhere you are without anyone noticing. Real life has no patience for photography nerds. Sometimes you are at a concert and get swept up into a moshpit. Sometimes there is a brawl outside your local bar. Sometimes the cops are arresting hundreds of people in your neighborhood. Sometimes crazy poo poo happens, and you just need a solid, cheap camera that can take damage and keep on on trucking, or even be outright broken with nary a tear shed. Blah blah blah! Shut the gently caress up you Terry Richardson wannabe. We are real photographers here Haven't convinced you yet? Well, actually, some of them are actually really nice cameras believe it or not:  The Leica Minilux. Can you own a Leica camera with an 40mm f/2.4 lens for under $400? Yes, yes you can. Solid camera. I learned the hard way that it's prone to expensive shutter failures though.  The Yashica T4. The classic. Should not cost you more than $150. Even then it's overpriced. Still a loving drat good camera. Sturdy, sharpass Carl Zeiss 35mm f/3.5 lens. Very simple features. The t3 and T4 are basically the same. The T4s is weatherproofed for the ultimate in hardcore "just-try-to-break-this-camera"-ness. I had this camera for a summer and a half and I lost it in a cab and regret that to this day. Sturdy. Reliable. Beautiful. Small. Cheap. Yes, Terry Richardson uses one.  The Olympus Stylus Epic. a 35mm f/2.8 in a very-interesting looking form should not cost you any more then $60, if eBay is any indication. Easy to find, great compact little system in a cool form for the price of a new video game. And there's not even any good games out anyways. Go buy an Olympus Stylus Epic.  These have a wildly varying price. Anywhere from $250-ish to well into the upper $600s for some of the rarer/weirder limited editions and what not. The widest lens yet though, with a 28mm f/2.8, and of course, sharp and badass looking.  warning: camera porn incoming  The Contax T3. With a Sonnar 35mm f/2.8 and that insane matte black finish, this is one boner-inducing camera. Too bad it's easily $600 and up   The Minolta TC-1. Probably the weirdest looking lens I've ever seen, but also one of the best ever made for a compact. $650 for this camera is a loving bargain. Don't even bother trying to buy this one. I pretty much only put it here so we can all ogle the bizarre lens. That tiny little thing is a 28mm f/3.5!!  Alright, this one is more of a "compact 35" and less of a "point and shoot" because the lens doesn't retract. BUT it's spectacularly rare and got a nice lens and I just got on one on eBay for $200, the approximate cost of fixing my Leica Minilux's now-dead shutter!!  Anyways, long story short, while 35mm P&S were once ubiquitous and synonymous with taking pictures, much as cameraphones are now, they've fallen by the wayside but are still drat good, occasionally cheap, sturdy, reliable cameras that will round out your photographic bases quite nicely. They can be where other cameras can't. Discuss your favorite 35mm P&S here, or use this to post camera porn so good we can literally jerk off to it!! Edit: Compact 35s! So what IS the difference between a P&S and a compact 35 exactly? The definition of a quote:"Point and shoot" is "A point-and-shoot camera, also called a compact camera, is a still camera designed primarily for simple operation. Most use focus free lenses or autofocus for focusing, automatic systems for setting the exposure options, and have flash units built in." So, anything with more complex operation, such as custom exposure/aperture settings etc, with a shoe instead of a built in flash, manual winding/rewinding and manual focus/non retracting lens in a small form factor is what will hereby be referred to as a "compact 35"  The Olympus RC! Gorgeous Zuiko 2.8 lens and a sexy rangefinder, prices seem to vary wildly but I'd say if you pay anything above $80-90 you've overpaid significantly. Kind of narrow at 42mm.  Canon G-III 17! A wildly popular Canon camera from the 80s, should be incredibly easy to find, has a good meter (a spot meter, I believe) and should only run you about $20 on eBay. $40 max. f/1.7 lens!! 40mm  Yashica Electro 35CC! Another solid camera from Yashica with a f/1.8 35mm lens. Unfortunately a little harder to find and, like all Yashica 35mm's apparently, disgustingly overpriced at around $350 for the only eBay sale I could find. If you just search "Yashica Electro 35" you will find other cameras from that series but as they are not TRUE compacts I will exclude them. They're solid cheap 35mms though, around $20-50 a piece.  The Minox 35mm. A camera only a mother could love. Cheap, plastic body (all the others are metal), wretched, ugly, horrid look, but regrettably a fine lens and overall good system at around $20-40 on eBay means I should include it. Check the barf-inducing flash/body combo:   Just to make up for the Minox, check this bad boy out:  The Rollei 35! Lots of fancy knobs and doodads on the front! Steel! Only f/3.5 40mm though, and with all sorts of weird special editions floating around it may be hard to snatch a bargain. I'd say around $40-120 for this weirdo.  Petri COlor 35! Classy! Cheap ($20). Uses weird rear end batteries! That wouldn't be a problem except this one is fully automatic save for aperture/ISO knobs on top.  The dreadfully sexy voigtlander VF135. Unfortunately, I could not even find a single on on eBay. You'd probably have more luck with the VF101/general Voigtlander 35mm's (non-compacts) That's about it, folks! Some warnings for you guys firing up your PayPals and eBays: THESE ARE OLD, CRANKY CAMERAS THAT USE FUNKY BATTERIES quote:size 675 zinc-air hearing aid batteries are a direct replacement for size 675 mercury cells and that they last about two to three weeks once opened so keep a pack in your camera bag They were designed for a specific purpose (mainly to unseat the Leica CL, but other than that, to be discrete, VERY QUIET compact, sharp, fast, metal 35mms to have on you at all times). FOR MOST PEOPLE READING THIS THREAD A 35MM POINT AND SHOOT WILL SERVICE YOUR NEEDS JUST AS WELL AS, IF NOT BETTER THAN THE CAMERAS LISTED ABOVE, AND MORE RELIABLY AT THAT there is no need to buy a fancy-shmancy Russian Leica replacement with an ultrafast lens if you're presently just going to use it to take cool snapshots of your friends and such. Or if you want a simple 35mm to replace/compliment your main system. They ARE great cameras, but don't buy something you don't really need. 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Erfsom posted:I was at my parents house some weeks ago and found a Pentax Espio 35-70mm camera, it still had some film in it and the recepit for it said it cost my mother 400 euro equivelants in 1994. That's a pretty respectable camera despite having a zoom lens. What batteries does it take?
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Feb 8, 2011 20:42
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Yeah. That's what my Leica Minilux takes, and my Yashica T4 as well I believe. They're common as gently caress. Adorama sells them at the checkout counter.
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Feb 8, 2011 21:10
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brad industry posted:I think that might be a David LaChapelle image, from a series he did with assembling found snapshots. Either that or a really awkward party. actually it's something I shot, but I am flattered you would confuse it for David LaChapelle! Or, alternatively, flattered you think I go to awkward parties (the best parties)
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Feb 9, 2011 23:54
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Cosmic Charlie posted:Right-O, I am not yet a photographer, but I would like to pick it up as a hobby, and this seems to be the most appropriate thread for my question. I would normally lurk, but I really need some guidance on this one as time may be an issue, and you guy's seem to be a great resource. Also, this is a great loving deal. You should jump on that deal ASAP. That camera + a nice lens can easily cost $200 and up, so even if you just get tired of it in a few weeks and resell it, it's still a good move on your part. Also, photography is pretty much the tits. Frankly, as that camera is a rather modern SLR, you may be overwhelmed, but I learned on a Canon 30D as my first camera so you should have no trouble picking it up as long as you keep on shooting and take your camera with you everywhere. It's ironic that you would post this in a point and shoot thread as that would probably suit you much better, but go for it. dorkasaurus_rex fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Feb 10, 2011 |
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Mannequin posted:What's the story behind this photo, anyway? He looks pretty creepy. He was just hanging out at this party, totally naked except for shoes and shocks (go figure), not really saying or doing anything except hanging out. He rocked. edit: Leica Minilux shot btw. spf3million posted:How is the Olympus XA not mentioned in the OP? Probably the cheapest f/2.8 available (aside from the Epic mju II). I'm working through my first roll now. Tiny and fun. I already had one Olympus cam in there, but yes, the XA and XA4 are very solid cameras.
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Feb 10, 2011 05:18
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Hey guys. So my Konica Auto S3 just came in the mail and I have to say it is one of the nicest cameras I've ever seen, let alone owned. That being said, it has no battery, and the battery it uses is banned because of mercury content. It's not unusable, but it means the excellent meter is unusable and the f/stop is left wide open at f/1.8. Can anyone help me find a 1.35V EPX-675 Mercury Battery without getting mad hatter's disease??
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Feb 11, 2011 02:51
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FasterThanLight posted:This is probably the best/closest replacement available: It will work with the Konica?
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Feb 11, 2011 03:23
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 it's....so nice..... (not leeching cause it's my facebook)
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Feb 11, 2011 03:50
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grumblybear posted:oh man, why did this thread have to come up now, a few days after my olympus ecru was lifted off me at a club? dawg, I just checked eBay and there's plenty more of these wacky cameras at semi-reasonable prices to go around. That thing is also bizarre looking. It looks like legos or a diver's camera or something.
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Feb 14, 2011 23:00
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Awkward Davies posted:Whats a normal price for one of these? I paid $200, but factor in a little bit extra for batteries and what not, which are weird and hard to find. The camera itself is also quite rare.
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Feb 16, 2011 22:34
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FasterThanLight posted:Haha, wtf. I got mine on ebay as part of a "box of 35mm P&S cameras" for $10 that also came with 10 rolls of Kodak Gold. if this was 36 exp kodak gold then gently caress you. my favorite daylight film apparently only exists on the east coast in bullshit 24exp variations. What other cameras?
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Feb 18, 2011 04:36
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Wow, the Olympus XA2 seems to be the goon camera of choice for some reason. No one's even bought an XA4 and it has that cool flash-bar thing off to the side!  I was figuring I'd get one or two of you to pony up for a T4 or maybe to convince one of you with slightly more dispensable income to pick up the Contax T2 but the XA2 seems to be a real hit!
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Feb 19, 2011 06:13
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I HATE CARS posted:Seeing as we can't shut up about XA's. Is there a photography anime I don't know about?!?!?
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Feb 23, 2011 16:49
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You loaded that film so fast!! I...incredible!!
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Feb 23, 2011 19:39
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:I really want to get a small P&S film camera after realizing that while I love my DSLR it's loving huge and I don't want to carry it everywhere. Does anyone have any opinions on the Konica Auto S3? I'd rather not spend too much on this as film and developing is already going to be a bitch and I travel a lot and don't want to get it destroyed. The Konica Auto S3 is not a point and shoot but rather a part of a different family of cameras known as Compact 35mm/compact RF, it was essentially designed to compete with Leica's Leica CL. While the Konica Auto S3 is an exceptional camera and a blast to use (with a really sick rangefinder), it is certainly not the only Compact 35 RF in the world, much as the XA2 is not the only point and shoot. The main difference being there's an Olympus XA2 in every corner of the globe for $60 or less, the Konica Auto S3 is actually somewhat rare and will typically go for $200 or more. Seeing as there's been a real interest in this thread in good compact 35s, i'll probably expand the OP to cover those in more detail in the coming week. That being said, the Konica IS a really nice system, if not for the weird battery issues (it uses obsolete and illegal mercury batteries), is freakishly tiny, and due to its rarity, you will probably have to buy another S3 for parts if you want it repaired.
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Mar 2, 2011 03:12
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FasterThanLight posted:
you can HAVE!??!?! what the gently caress. where are these people and how do i dupe them
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GWBBQ posted:Use size 675 zinc-air hearing aid batteries, they have the same actual voltage as the mercury batteries. They go bad after a few weeks since they react with air to produce power but you won't fry anything in your camera and your meter will read correctly. Yes, I am going to add that as well as some other info about compact 35s to the OP soon.
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Mar 3, 2011 04:16
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Ok! Updated the OP with battery info/35mm compact camera porn.
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Mar 3, 2011 17:22
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spf3million posted:How did the XA not make the OP again? as if it needs any more of a recommendation! Also, I already put the Olympus Stylus (which has built in flash) in there AND the Olympus RC now 
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Mar 3, 2011 17:50
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Nannypea posted:I was in the local camera store today and they had 4 Leica Minilux in stock. One was brand new in the box. Prices ranged from $400 for the new one and $175 for one with a malfunctioning flash. I was very very tempted. jump on it. we can be Minilux bros. Go against the goon grain!! crosspost from PAD, two new pix from my Konica Auto S3:  
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Mar 4, 2011 01:36
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Nannypea posted:Where do you find such interesting people? I'm surrounded by a bunch of country folks. Unfortunately I live in NYC so my advice is basically "move to a city". Also this was during NYFW. Then again there are plenty of photo people here who take boring pictures of boring people every day so I don't know what to say. Go outside your comfort zone, bub. I kind of want a G11 but I'd rather buy a new film camera first. RizieN posted:Getting me even more stoked on my wife's Konica Auto S3. What flash did you use? What flash should I get? I know absolute poo poo about real film, and jumped on an Auto S3 on ebay to buy for her...but I know old cameras don't work with new hotshoe flashes...right? So my SB-600 (nikon) wouldn't quite work correct? I used my slightly dinged up Canon 430EX, a brand new flash. You can almost always use a new flash with old cameras, and the Konica Auto S3 meters for both flash AND ambient light (check the grain in the second picture), so it'd be a shame to use it WITHOUT a flash at night. Then again, the flash is easily 2-3x the size of the actual camera and I had to partially advance the frame just to get the winder out of the way enough to put on/remove the flash so I don't know. I HATE old flashes. Nasty overcomplicated pieces of junk, imho.
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TheLastManStanding posted:Overcomplicated?!? The only thing on my old flashes is an on button and sometimes a test button; I can't image anything simpler than that.  I mean like this. I just look at them and my brain falls apart. While I've grown more comfortable with my 430EX, I'm still a total noob with it and flashes in general.
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Mar 4, 2011 17:30
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FasterThanLight posted:I just looked this up, and if I'm understanding, it uses a manually-entered guide number to couple with the ambient meter reading and the rangefinder's measured distance - is that correct? That just sounds awesome. happy accidents. embrace it.
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Mar 4, 2011 20:45
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...or maybe just stop trying to put so much thought into it.
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grumblybear posted:so, i just stumbled on a craigslist yashica t4 for $80 and it makes me so happy. This man "gets it". I like your shots, link to a flickr?
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Mar 7, 2011 21:55
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RizieN posted:Well I guess I learned the hard way not to shoot more exposures than you have in the roll. Probably only lost like 5 shots all jammed up, but it was a test roll anyway to see what this Konica S3 is all about. Post scans! excited to see someone elses' shots with that camera!
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Mar 9, 2011 20:17
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Baish posted:Jumping on the XA2 bandwagon. It should arrive next week right before my bachelor party in New Orleans. I'm clueless about film really. What kind of film should I get? Color. Or black and white.
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Mar 10, 2011 21:32
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Already Bored posted:I'm after a point and shoot with a fast autofocus in low light situations. This to me means you want something with a lens around f/2.0 which means it'll be tough to keep the price that low. Did you check the cameras in the OP?
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Mar 28, 2011 20:00
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Awkward Davies posted:Found another place I won't be going back to in Manhattan: Manhattan Color Labs. Manhattan Color Labs owns, man. Don't hate. I mainly use them for 120 though.
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Mar 29, 2011 03:35
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Sirkus posted:Found this thing for 60$ at my local photo shop: Dag yo. Good find. As an aside, I found two good ways of finding reputable and cheap 35mm rangefinders: http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=35mm+rangefinder&_sacat=See-All-Categories just doing a search for "35mm rangefinder" on ebay brings up a lot of good poo poo, unfortunately the same is not true for "35mm point and shoot" but you can sort of use eBay's built in filters to do that. http://www.shopgoodwill.com/listings/listbycat.asp?catid=170 Goodwill's online shop of used cameras from across the US.
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Just haggled my way into one of these: For the bargain hunters in this thread, this one is a doozy. Can easily be snapped up for about $20, super sharp rear end 45mm f/1.8, hot shoe, the works. It still uses the same goofy batteries as the Konica Auto S3 There are also some sister models like the (probably) superior Hi-Matic 9 and the weird in-between Hi-Matic 11, but the 7S has weird cult status and it basically owns so far. http://www.jwhubbers.nl/mug/HiMatic2.html this site is really informative and has loads of good info on all the different Minolta's out there.
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Apr 28, 2011 00:03
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Mightaswell posted:I found a Ricoh AF-5 at Goodwill for $13. Had batteries and the flash fired. Should I buy it? It's a solid camera, and you can never go wrong for $13, but you may want something with more complication and versatility. atomicthumbs posted:35mm camera inventory from that sale: The Pentax is probably the best of the bunch but still nothing special. Autofocus and pop up flash with manual winding is a really weird mix.
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Dr. Cogwerks posted:I was also thinking it might be fun to mail the thing around to a bunch of folks, each person taking like two pictures and mailing it to the next in line as a group project. Wouldn't matter as much if the thing gets stolen or busted since it cost a whole dollar. This could be a good idea. You should make a thread for it or something!!
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been shooting a lot with the Konica Big Mini and the Konica Auto S3. They're both very solid cameras, and they're both Konicas, but they're very different.
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So I'm doing an internship in Europe at the moment, and even though I have a 35mm SLR with me, I've been using my Konica Big Mini a lot. And despot e the fact that I have a Yashica T4, I left mine at home and picked the Konica Big Mini over it. It's a surprisingly capable camera, it's just a bit held back because the time between turning it on and being able to take a picture is much slower than the Yashica T4, but only by a few seconds. It's a minor gripe, but sometimes it makes the difference.
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Jul 24, 2011 12:08
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saw this baby on Tokyo Camera Style just now:  Fujifilm TIARA II $250
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Aug 18, 2011 06:32
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AceClown posted:I hate this thread and I hate you all. Thread validated 
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Sep 15, 2011 23:32
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My Leica Minilux broke  Any tips from fellow Leica users on repairing it?
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FasterThanLight posted:Mine just broke too, got the infamous E02 error. From what I've read, this means the shutter is dead and it needs to go to Germany to be replaced. I'll probably end up doing that at some point. Oy vey. Isn't it basically the cost of the camera to fix anyways??
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tuddy posted:more portra 400nc in my contax t2 Are there any other cameras as sharp and reliable as this guy? With a built in flash, preferably. The T4 is nice but I'm looking for something that's a bit of a step up.
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